How strong is Pan?

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How strong is Pan?
Tweet Topic Started: May 23 2012, 07:41 PM (2,966 Views)
~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 07:41 PM Post #1
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Sigh I know this might go on for pages, but I wanted to see where everyone has Pan (power wise) at EoZ. I personally have her at 100% Frieza form at best. No bias against her character either. I've just seen a lot of different power ratios for her and wanted to know everyone elses.



~~Super Vegetto~~	May 23 2012, 07:46 PM Post #2
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	I have Pan EoZ as one of weakest characters. Only thing Goku meaned by Pan going far is preliminaries. They clearly removed that scene in dbz because only in dragon ball it was interesting to see how fighthers fight before quarter-finals. Still i dont know where to put her. Edited by Super Vegetto, May 23 2012, 07:48 PM.
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~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 07:57 PM Post #3
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Yeah, I was about to bring that up. Any Z Fighter can go far in preliminaries, and Krillin proves that.



SSVegeta	May 23 2012, 08:21 PM Post #4
Posts: 6 Group: New Member Member #7,590 Joined: April 30, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Soul Eater	I don't really know what EoZ is, but i have talked about pan to some of my friends, and discussed the matter of "Why doesnt she have super saiyan abilities, or at least why doesnt she show them in the anime?" My guess is that she just isn't as in to fighting as the others (i have seen her introduced in the anime yet though so idk) or it's because she's only 25% saiyan, and that may not be enough to unleash super saiyan strength. I'm hoping the latter is not the case though, because it will completely destroy my fan fiction in progress, where after several chapters, our very late generation of characters (that are low percentage of SS, like maybe 12.5%-6.25%, maybe less) they, after a great deal of hardship, awaken SS abilities. Not to promote that here or derail, so in reality, i think there isn't really enough to conclude her real strength , but like i say, idk what EoZ is so i may be just completely lost and the 5 or so minutes it took to write this may have been for nothing, but oh well.



~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 08:30 PM Post #5
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	EoZ = End Of Z ; which is basically Pan's only appearance in the manga. I've theorized that Pan doesn't have SSJ for the two following reasons: There wasn't a reason to draw her as a SSJ in the DBZ manga Toriyama didn't know what an SSJ female would look like The GT Perfect Files says that she has no reason to turn Super Saiyan though, which is a bit laughable, lol. Off Topic: Welcome to the forums!



~~Super Vegetto~~	May 23 2012, 08:32 PM Post #6
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	This is EoZ Pan :
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Kblo247	May 23 2012, 09:28 PM Post #7
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	She's strong enough to fly around the planet in speeds noted only for SSJ Gotenks pre-ROSAT in the past. She's also not the one complaining about being in a tourney with her uncle Buu like Goten and Trunks were. Hey also didn't rig her matchup. I'm just saying she has to be close to where the saiyans were vs Babadi We can never truly know, and I know the filler scene doesn't count where they show her knocking Goten out Edited by Kblo247, May 23 2012, 09:29 PM.



~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 09:58 PM Post #8
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	There's never any mention of how fast she circled the Earth. Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P3.8-9 Pan: Grandpa. I've circled around the Earth! Goku: Alrii-ight! Great, that was pretty fast! Anything could be meant by ''pretty fast,'' I guess. And speed doesn't always equal strength. I'd be willing to bet that Goten and Trunks were complaining because they slacked off training and didn't want to fight. I don't even have Goten at an SSJ2 level simply based on his statement about fighting Boo, so logically, Pan is nowhere near Goten. Edited by GridZero, May 23 2012, 09:58 PM.



Chiaotzu	May 23 2012, 10:19 PM Post #9
Posts: 34 Group: Member Member #7,142 Joined: December 29, 2011 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	Pretty weak, she's like 4 years old. She did well in the tourny, but anyone can go far in the preliminaries.
	Like the ebb and flow of the tides, my wrath shall remain constant! I'll have my revenge!


+ Clearin	May 23 2012, 10:21 PM Post #10
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Quote: She's also not the one complaining about being in a tourney with her uncle Buu like Goten and Trunks were. Trunks and Goten didn't complain about being in the tournament with Buu, Goten just complained about having to actually fight him.



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	May 23 2012, 10:26 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P3.8-9 Pan: “Grandpa. I’ve circled around the Earth!” Goku: “Alrii—iight! Great, that was pretty fast!” Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1 Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!” Pan: “Yeah!” That's all we have of her power. Obviously, any of the Z-Fighters would beat any human fighters, so it'd be kind of trivial to even say that she would go far in the Budokai and only mean she would beat the human fighters. I think this should mean she could face off against the Saiya-jins (Goten and Trunks), but probably lose.



~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 10:29 PM Post #12
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	No, Goku didn't know Trunks was entering the World Tournament when he said that Pan was going to ''go far.'' I think he meant against the 7 other human competitors, honestly. At the time, there were 7 human competitors. Edited by GridZero, May 23 2012, 10:30 PM.



Kblo247	May 23 2012, 10:37 PM Post #13
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Goku knew Vegeta was going to come running if he fought. They even continued that trend in GTwhen Vegeta shows up after he competes in the jr division. All we know is that Goku knew none of them would win the tournament for obvious reasons



~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 10:43 PM Post #14
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Eh, I kind of label that as an assumption because there's no evidence of that. And Goku had no intention of fighting Vegeta anyways, so I don't know why he would care if he went or not. Edited by GridZero, May 23 2012, 10:44 PM.



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	May 23 2012, 11:54 PM Post #15
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	GridZero May 23 2012, 10:29 PM No, Goku didn't know Trunks was entering the World Tournament when he said that Pan was going to ''go far.'' I think he meant against the 7 other human competitors, honestly. At the time, there were 7 human competitors. I'd say that anyone who could fly around the globe (and quickly according to Goku) is beating any human easily. Saying she could beat the non ki using humans is trivial In the end, we have close to zero canon indicators of Pan's power. Everything is up to interpretation, and her being at 100% Furiza could work well, or she could be at Post-RST Goten for all we know. We just have too vague statements and no canon fights from her. At the very least, all we can agree on is that Pan stomps any non ki using human. Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, May 23 2012, 11:58 PM.



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