Did the editors screw Tien?

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Did the editors screw Tien?
Tweet Topic Started: May 23 2012, 01:54 PM (1,585 Views)
~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 01:54 PM Post #1
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	I read somewhere that the reason that Tien wasn't at the World Tournament in the Boo Saga is because that would imply that he'd have gone to help against Babidi, and Gohan would've been spit on instead of him, so Tien was supposed to fight Dabura. That obviously implies that Tien > Perfect Cell or at least Tien ~ Perfect Cell. The reason that this idea was canned was because of an editorial decision. This is all supposed to be in Daizenshuu 7, but I can't find it. Is any of this true? Can anyone find the part (in any Daizenshuu) where it says this? Edited by GridZero, May 23 2012, 01:54 PM.



amsmagic	May 23 2012, 02:02 PM Post #2
The Magic Man. Aka Street Magician Posts: 554 Group: Member Member #7,522 Joined: April 8, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga Naruto	I don't know about the Daizenshuu but that wouldn't make any since because that would imply he could handle a SSJ2 Gohan in a fight. Know, all you guys argued that SSJ Vegeta couldn't compare to SSJ2 Gohan, so I don't believe Tien to be in the SSJ2 tier. I think he might be in base saiyans tier. Him and piccolo would make for a good fight.
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*Copy_Ninja*	May 23 2012, 02:03 PM Post #3
*Novacane for the pain* Posts: 8,033 Group: Guardian Member #6,499 Joined: July 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter x Hunter (2011) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Monster, One Piece, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hunter X Hunter, Death Note, SnK	I checked Herms' thread about the Daiz where he lists interesting facts and I couldn't find anything like this. Also, if it were in there Daiz 7 doesn't seem like the one it would be in. Might just be a rumour made up by one of Tien's more diehard fanboys. Then again, someone else could find it so you never know.
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~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 02:05 PM Post #4
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	According to Daizenshuu, Tien knows Kaioken, so I'm taking what they say with a grain of salt, lol. I'll dig deeper, but if I find it, I'll report here. Seems like a great find. Edited by GridZero, May 23 2012, 02:13 PM.



amsmagic	May 23 2012, 02:08 PM Post #5
The Magic Man. Aka Street Magician Posts: 554 Group: Member Member #7,522 Joined: April 8, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga Naruto	GridZero May 23 2012, 02:05 PM According to Daizenshuu, Tien knows Kaioken, so I'm taking what they say with a grain of salt, lol. I'd dig deeper, but if I find it, I'll report here. Seems like a great find. When does Tien ever show that he has knowledge of Kaioken?
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~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 02:10 PM Post #6
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	I have no idea, but Kaioken became useless after Frieza anyways. It should be noted that Tien spent 260 (hope that number is right) days with King Kai, so him learning it isn't implausible.



amsmagic	May 23 2012, 02:13 PM Post #7
The Magic Man. Aka Street Magician Posts: 554 Group: Member Member #7,522 Joined: April 8, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga Naruto	GridZero May 23 2012, 02:10 PM I have no idea, but Kaioken became useless after Frieza anyways. It should be noted that Tien spent 260 (hope that number is right) days with King Kai, so him learning it isn't implausible. It's plausible yes, but it was never implied he did learn it. Actually, I think it was more implied that Goku was the only one that could learn it because King Kai was so happy of Goku's progress. If Tien had Kaioken, then so should Yamacha. Which I'm pretty sure we can agree that he didn't. Lol if that really came out of the Daizenshuu then how trustworthy is that source? Edited by amsmagic, May 23 2012, 02:14 PM.
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~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 02:15 PM Post #8
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Well, Daizenshuu should be trusted in some cases. It was approved by Toriyama, so most, if not all he signed off on, and read it. However, there are some minor inconsistencies with Daizenshuu, so that's why some fans don't trust it. Edit: Daizenshuu had to go through Toriyama first, before publishing, I believe. Edited by GridZero, May 23 2012, 02:15 PM.



*Copy_Ninja*	May 23 2012, 02:19 PM Post #9
*Novacane for the pain* Posts: 8,033 Group: Guardian Member #6,499 Joined: July 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter x Hunter (2011) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Monster, One Piece, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hunter X Hunter, Death Note, SnK	If Tien had Kaioken then, frankly he would have used it at some point. No one gets a power like that and doesn't pull it out. Especially in a situation like against the Cell Jrs where he was getting beat down. Does it really say that though? The only source I've seen looks very very biased and unreliable so I'm not willing to trust it.
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~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 02:25 PM Post #10
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Are you talking about the Tien blogspot website? And never mind, Daizenshuu states Goku as the only Kaioken user.



Warrior-Elite	May 23 2012, 04:44 PM Post #11
Posts: 1,360 Group: Member Member #4,528 Joined: October 18, 2009 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga N/A	If thats true, then my love for tien has just increased tenfolds. But unfortunately ive never heard that anywhere.
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~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 05:51 PM Post #12
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	This is pretty much all I've found, but it's not much, and I don't particularly trust this website. Quote: However, some say that he surpassed the power of a sayajin 1, because he was able to deflect an energy attack very powerful made by Super Buu after absorbing Piccolo and Gotenks level 3.Tenshinhan would be able to easily beat Pui Pui,but by some editorial reason Toriyama decided to keep Tenshinhan unknown in the montains. Fake? Daizenshuu 7 entry on Tien



* Bex	May 24 2012, 01:50 AM Post #13
★ Bextreme Dream ★ Posts: 9,435 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,545 Joined: July 5, 2006 Gender Female Country United Kingdom What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	That's a blog, unless Toriyama himself wrote it then I hardly think that's a reliable source of information at all. In fact, it's a blog, quoting another article which means there is a huge element of bias. I'd agree with Copy_Ninja on this one and say that that information was manipulated somewhat by a die-hard Tien fanboy.
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~~GridZero~~	May 24 2012, 02:02 AM Post #14
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Yeah, I don't trust it, and the Daizenshuu 7 information derived from that blog is baseless. There was another entry (on this forum) that said Daiz 7 had the information about Tien and the editors, but I can't find it annnnnywhere.



comicstar100	May 24 2012, 05:20 AM Post #15
Posts: 14 Group: New Member Member #7,636 Joined: May 14, 2012	It is too bad that most of my beloved human characters became useless around the Trunks saga. Still it isn't too crazy to imagine Tien or any of the other humans learning Kaioken at some point. It could explain how Yamcha was able to spar with Olibu and the fighters of grand kai's world.



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