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May 21 2012, 11:17 PM Post #46 |
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Oh, that was SSJ Vegetto > SSJ3 Gogeta, not Bae Vegetto. And I'm not sure about that, I think SSJ2 Vegetto > SSJ3 Gogeta makes more sense. Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, May 21 2012, 11:17 PM.
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May 22 2012, 12:14 AM Post #47 |
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I have: SSJ3 Vegetto >>> SSJ3 Gogeta > SSJ2 Vegetto (big gap) ~> SSJ1 Gogeta Of course, that can't all be backed up, but that's my input. Edited by GridZero, May 22 2012, 12:15 AM.
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May 22 2012, 12:23 AM Post #48 |
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Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3 Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo Kaioshin-Kibito: “H-he’s strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!” Elder Kaioshin: “Idiot, it’s because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What’s more, two rivals have joined together. That’s definitely strongest.” I find this good evidence of fusion dance having a rival boost for Vegeta and Goku, but I'm unsure. I still think that without rival boost, Potara > Fusion Dance Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P1.3 Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!” That's pretty much all we get about Fusion Dance vs Potara Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, May 22 2012, 12:26 AM.
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May 22 2012, 05:54 PM Post #49 |
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I have provided more than enough proof for my beliefs, not to mention youre just rehashing old topics. You want opinions based in reality? look em up. Cause its funny how whats written can go out the window because someone doesnt want to believe they were wrong. This isnt some role playing game where people can just make stuff up as they go. Your whole first post seemed like some inflammatory troll topics. Then you agreed with most of those topics like they made sense. all i know is that i facepalmed about 90% of what you said. But you are entitled to what you want to believe,...until you try to pass them off as truth. The quality of DBZ kai and the SSj multipliers are he only thing plausible you even mentioned IMHO, otherwise youre just another broly fan boy hyping up a character who is weaker than people think. Especially this crap about him >>SSj2 gohan in movie 8, and being SSj3 tier in movie 10. Broly is weaker than good buu and there is no reason to have him above good buus power. Edited by Paikuan extreme, May 22 2012, 06:00 PM.
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May 22 2012, 09:40 PM Post #50 |
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I still notice you haven't given any evidence. :/
Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, May 22 2012, 10:13 PM.
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May 22 2012, 10:11 PM Post #51 |
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Broly is Good Boo tier, in Movie 10. I still don't believe he's stronger than SSJ2 Gohan in movie 8 either. The producer didn't know what he was talking about. Seriously, he produced The Return Of Cooler too, and that movie has no place in ANY timeline you can think of. It's literally a parallel universe. |
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May 22 2012, 10:14 PM Post #52 |
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I agree the Return of Cooler doesn't fit in DBZ continuity, but saying the producer was wrong is like saying Akira Toriyama was wrong by making Vegeta > Nappa. It may go against what you believe, but when you have a statement from the actual producer of the movie, it's tough to argue against it without outright saying 'the producer is wrong, I am right' :/ |
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May 22 2012, 10:17 PM Post #53 |
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You'd be right there, haha. Where's the infamous quote from this producer though? I've heard about it, yet never seen it. Edit: And the producer wasn't involved in making the manga right? If so, why should we trust anything about the manga when he so very clearly disregards it with Return Of Cooler  Edited by GridZero, May 22 2012, 10:17 PM.
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May 22 2012, 10:20 PM Post #54 |
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Well as long as a statement in the movie about a character's power does not outright contradict or change the supposed view of a manga character, it should be true for the movie. Here's the quote:source: http://www.kanzentai.com/trans-daiz06.php?m=19&id=memorials#link Whoops, his name is Mori s h i ta Kouzou, but the word filter is censoring it. Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, May 22 2012, 10:21 PM.
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May 22 2012, 10:25 PM Post #55 |
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Would it contradict? We'd be saying that Goku (with energy absorbed) is stronger than SSJ2 Gohan. Is that possible? |
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May 22 2012, 11:04 PM Post #56 |
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The producers quote was relegated to the movie ONLY and has NO effect as an alternate universe movie on anything to date before or past it. That quote is irrelevant in more ways than one. In the MOVIE broly was the strongest saiyan, but then again, Goku was the hero of movie 8 and not gohan who was SSj2 and PASt fighting cell in the very next movie. So please, evidence doesnt exist that supports what you claim. You want proof broly is weaker than good buu? Goku and pikkon took him out in movie 11. In movie 12 goku stated that BUU was the only person to EVER make goku use SSj3, EVER!! So there you go, Gotenks is weak compared to gogeta who is the culmination of BUU saga goku and vegeta and are twice as strong as the boys who are only as strong as MSSj goku Cell saga. Gohan took on Gotens SSj in base and didnt get hit ONE TIME. They were fighting match level, and the training doesnt go beyond that, so saying gohan will go all out on goten with no mercy is out the window too. Gohan turned SSj to keep ahead of goten, the same gohan whos own SSj form is also 30% weaker than he was 7 years previous. As a matter of fact, gohan hadnt turned SSj in years and doing it against goten guaranteed his safety. Goten in the meantime was going all out until he was tired. The prolonged training took it out of gohan who realized he pitifully OUT of shape. so claiming the boys are strong and using gohan as a measuring stick is fail. |
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May 22 2012, 11:14 PM Post #57 |
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I really wouldn't rely on movie continuance here. Plus, Goku had SSJ3 at the time (Boo Saga) and SSJ3 Goku > Majin Boo. My point being is: Paragus says King Vegeta was killed in Planet Vegeta's explosion, yet we know from the anime that he was killed by Freeza in a fight. You can't really rely on movies to give any continuance from each other as they all happen in seperate universes. |
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| Master of Dragon Ball | May 22 2012, 11:38 PM Post #58 |
 
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Character stupidity. He would not know that King Vegeta staged a coupe to fight Freeza, so he would naturally assume he died in the explosion with everybody else. |
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May 22 2012, 11:46 PM Post #59 |
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Ah, that does make sense. But there are too many other Toei mistakes to correlate the movies together. Every movie exists in a parallel universe, thus, they can't be used to prove that this character >> this character, especially if one pertains to the manga and one doesn't. I only say Broly is Good Boo tier because he's weaker than SSJ3, but much stronger than a Gohan who didn't neglect his training at SSJ2. SSJ3 Goku > SSJ2 Gohan (Movie 10) SSJ3 Goku > Good Boo LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) > SSJ2 Gohan (Movie 10) LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) ~ Good Boo Edited by GridZero, May 22 2012, 11:49 PM.
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | May 23 2012, 01:46 PM Post #60 |
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