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May 16 2012, 02:06 PM Post #1 |
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I resaw all the Broly movies this weekend, (even the horrible Bio Broly), and I was thinking about what canonical universe they would fit in. If you see a problem with the theory, correct me  Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan ; takes place in a universe where Cell does not exist, or never came to exist. Android 16 does not exist in this timeline either. What I think happened in this universe is that Android 19 and 20 still appeared. Goku never got the heart virus. Android 20 still escapes. Vegeta shows up. Goku, Trunks, Vegeta, and the rest of the Z-Fighters get owned by Android 17 and Android 18. Now this is where it branches off. Instead of Cell appearing, he doesn't. The Androids attempt to kill Goku, but he uses Instant Transmission, and is in the lookout. Android 17 goes to find Goku, and 18 follows him. Since they can't sense chi, it's a wild goose chase. The Z-Fighters reconvene at the lookout because they sensed Goku's chi there. While on the lookout, Kami mentions the RoSaT as the only choice left. Trunks goes in because he wants to kill the Androids, and Goku goes in because he has to settle the score with the Red Ribbon Army. A day passes, and they come out. They use Goku as bait, and they find the Androids. Android 17 doesn't take very well to the fact that Goku is stronger, and Goku ends up killing him. 18 concedes defeat. After the Androids are defeated, Goku goes back to normal base, and decides to not keep the Super Saiyan form. The day that Paragus goes to find them is the day directly after they defeated the Androids, and right before the day Trunks goes back in time. Goku later contracts the heart virus, but because he strained himself so much in the RoSaT to keep the Super Saiyan form, and because he fought Broly, he ends up dying. Broly: Second Coming ; takes place in the same universe as above. However, this is where it branches off. Boo never came to exist, and Goku never reached out to anybody about the World Tournament. Instead, Videl simply met Gohan in High School, and she found out about his secret. They became friends, and subsequently, so did Trunks and Goten. Gohan achieved Super Saiyan 2 through training, not through emotional distress, like he did in the original timeline, thus his SSJ2 form lacks lightning because it isn't an emotional situation. Bio Broly ; plain and simple. Happens in a universe where Boo does not exist. Android 18 was the only one to go to the World Tournament because she heard about the money in a TV commercial, and Roshi explained to her what it was. Android 18 makes it to the finals, and Hercule bribes her to lose to him. The next day, her, Krillin, and Marron meet up with Trunks and Goten (Trunks lives close to Hercule, or at least that's what I gather) ; the events of Bio Broly unfold. ____________________ So, is there a major flaw or problem with my logic? |
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| Copy_Ninja | May 16 2012, 02:14 PM Post #2 |
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How does Gohan get SSJ in the movie 8 timeline if he doesn't go into the Rosat? I think movie 8 just has Vegeta or Trunks kill Semi Perfect Cell. |
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May 16 2012, 02:18 PM Post #3 |
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By going into the RoSaT in the seven year break. I forgot to mention that. I also thought about Trunks/Vegeta killing Semi Perfect Cell, but I think that would imply Vegeta and Trunks were much stronger than Goku in Movie 8, and I always thought that they were about the same level. |
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| Copy_Ninja | May 16 2012, 02:24 PM Post #4 |
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I thought Gohan went Super Saiyan while fighting Broly? It still works with Vegeta and Trunks, because they would have killed him while Goku and Gohan were in there training. If the Broly movie takes place when Goku and Gohan come out, it should be fine (with the only difference being that Gohan is somehow weaker than Goku but that could maybe because Goku sensed that Cell was dead so Gohan slacked off a little more). |
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May 16 2012, 02:27 PM Post #5 |
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Ah, you're right. My bad. And I agree with your theory. Maybe that explains why they weren't in a natural SSJ form when they came out, and since 16 doesn't exist in this universe, there'd never be a switch for Gohan's SSJ2. I'd probably have him go another day in the RoSaT after Goku dies though. I think it's fully possible for him to get SSJ2 in 7 years. |
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May 16 2012, 03:33 PM Post #6 |
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it explains why goku is stronger than gohan. doesnt leave much else out, goku died for some reason, since the heart virus is his natural cause it more than likely affects alot more universes similar to the main timeline. I see no flaw in your story, you havent yet explained your logic behind this reasoning though. |
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May 16 2012, 03:40 PM Post #7 |
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Well, there are a lot of inconsistencies with all the Broly movies, I just wanted to patch some things up. In my first theory, Cell doesn't show up, but Goku has to die. In my second theory, Android 16 never showed up, but Gohan needs SSJ2 to fight Broly. In my third theory, there needs to be a World Tournament, but Boo can't show up. |
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May 16 2012, 04:09 PM Post #8 |
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Sorry for getting off topic but I need some better understanding. All this alternate timeline stuff where Broly shows up instead of Cell and Buu is caused from Trunks and Cell changing history in time right? from their arrival into the present timeline? |
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May 16 2012, 04:49 PM Post #9 |
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To be honest, I don't think it's like that. It's more Toei wanting to make a movie, and not caring about the canonocity of their film. You've seen The Return Of Cooler? That movie literally cannot take place in any feasible timeline. It'd have to be one where Trunks never shows up, and Dende returns to Earth with Krillin, and Gohan. |
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May 16 2012, 10:45 PM Post #10 |
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its the toei verse, and all the movies are what ifs. yes they are an alternate universe, for some? its plural. The broly verse is one all its own, as is the cooler, which ties into movie 7 somehow, which also ties into the androids, who are also a part of the timeline regardless of circumstance. |
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May 17 2012, 04:36 PM Post #11 |
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Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan ; takes place in a universe where Semi-Perfect Cell is defeated by ASSJ Vegeta or ASSJ Trunks . What I think happened in this universe is that ASSJ Vegeta or ASSJ Trunks defeated Semi-Perfect Cell. After hearing news, Goku and Gohan stoped to use SSJ form so that is the reason they are not in SSJ form. They went to picnic to celebrate victory and ofc Goku and Chi-chi wanted to find good school for Gohan. Goku "kills Broly" and teleport everybody on spaceship that Piccolo used to get on that planet. Other scenario : Everything happend like in anime. After hearing news Goku and Gohan didnt stoped using SSJ form. Chi-chi didnt whanted from Goku and Gohan to stop using SSJ state so they didnt used it that day because Goku neaded to go to find good school for Gohan, and Gohan probably also didnt whanted to use that form for some reason. Maybe because even on picture he is in base and looks like he went out of Rosat so maybe because of picture XD. Vegeta and Trunks were second time in Rosat because Trunks has long hair. They use ASSJ forms because they used it in Cell games ( anime only ). Piccolo later arrives on Planet and probably after getting out of Rosat he heard Goku and King kai speaking so somehow he got there. Broly: Second Coming ; takes place in the same universe as second scenario above. Goku died because of Cell, Gohan is still same toei Gohan that neads anger to go SSJ2. Broly got stronger and has enough power to beat SSJ2 Teen Gohan ( enraged ) but he doesnt have big gap between them. Gohan manages to overpower and outspeed him in some scenes so gap is not so big. "Piccolo stoped fighthing and maybe same goes for Vegeta who even sad that he will never fight again". That is maybe for Vegeta. Bio Broly ; plain and simple. Happens in a universe 1 day after incidents of Boo saga. The next day 17 goes for money. Or happens in universe where Goku beats Fat boo so boys never learn fusion. Edited by Super Vegetto, May 17 2012, 04:38 PM.
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May 17 2012, 04:58 PM Post #12 |
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I agree with pretty much everything said above. Although, again, Trunks/Vegeta should've done much better than they did in Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan if they went into the chamber and killed Cell. They'd be stronger than everyone except Broly. Bio Broly is the only problem. It seriously implies that it takes place they day directly after the World Tournament. No Boo, at all. Only other answer would be that Boo was killed, or he failed to hatch, and Bio Broly happens the next day. (Unlikely, but it's Toei logic) |
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