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Black Ops 2; fa sure!
Topic Started: May 7 2012, 05:53 AM (1,543 Views)
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We gonna talk about Black Ops 2 or go back to arguing which one is better; Modern Warfare 3 or Battlefield 3?

I think we all know where we stand on CoD games by now, there's no point treading over old ground. For starters, Modern Warfare games aren't even made by the same company that makes Black Ops and World at War, so there's no point talking about them here. Treyarch are the ones that make this game, and therefore we can only judge their past ability on the CoD games they have made, not just other games from the franchise, cuz other companies will make things their own way.

I agree with Necifix about World at War. The multi-player on that game was appalling, though having said that the game-play for the campaign was also pretty poor, though the story was good. Nazi zombies was good. Black Ops as a game on the other hand bored me to death. I tried to sit down and play this game numerous times, both campaign, multi-player and zombies, and I didn't get past like mission 2 because I just got so bored of the story and the game-play. It didn't even feel to me like it was set in the 1960s or wherever and had anything to do with Vietnam or whatever the heck the game was meant to be about. The characters had no personality, Sgt. Reznov was somehow still fighting even though he looked about 80 during the events of World War II and it just was a ridiculous game. They had some great ideas for multi-player though which I had been waiting for years for them to implement into a CoD game which was to have like two people off one console playing online - something that Halo 2 had the ability to do years before that, so there's no excuse as to why they couldn't have put that in earlier games. But that and a couple other minor changes aren't enough to make up for the piss poor campaign and characters and the bland multi-player.

I personally will not waste any more money on a CoD game, however my little brother might, and if he decides to get that game I will give it a shot and comment later, but if he doesn't then it's no skin off my bones.

And for the record, Terminator Salvation was a ***** movie (imho), therefore if that's what they're aiming to do in Black Ops 2 then it'll definitely be a ***** game.
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I felt WAW was the most balanced in terms of weaponary. It actually took skill to use the assault rifles and bolt action. Yea the mp40 was overpowered, but it is so FREAKIN stupid that I have to use the same weapons as everyone else in order to have a good score. I hate being like other people. I like being different and use unused guns. I think I actually had a positive k/d ratio in WAW because in COD4 the only weapons I used was the first pump action shotgun and the G3 so I was used to that type of weaponry.

The shotguns are MISERABLE in mw3 and that's basically the class I use. I shoot someone like 2 inches away and they don't die? At least in WAW when you shot someone with a shotgun, their arm would fly off or their leg. In MW3, it's all about acr and triple spraying because the gun is overpowered as well as other ones I see that I don't know the name too.

All the cod are dumb in a sense because they pair you up with people that are 10th prestige when you just started the game. THis way you have no chance in beating them unless you have already played the game and are really skilled.

My favorite ones were
COD4 and WAW

Why?

They seemed the most fair to me. There weren't ridiculously crazy kill streaks. I mean if you are on a losing team and there are five planes or whatever in the air, it's like impossible to move around without dying. Of course, no one shoots it down and it usually ends up being me that has too. Then the other team makes fun of you, etc.

I always have negative k/d ratios, but I don't think that makes me a bad player. I don't really camp very much, but I can understand why people camp so I don't complain about it. Camping is one of the only ways you can reassure that you have a positive k/d ratio. However, I can't camp. I get bored easily just sitting there in a corner doing nothing. I must be bad at COD because of my negative k/d ratio, but I can tell you that in other shooting games I own like Medal of Honor.

It's amazing that all the COD my k/d ratio has been .799 and in BF3 I had a positive one. I wonder why that is? It's because when I shot someone with a shotgun...they would DIE all the time. There was no oh one time I kill them and then the next time they don't die. There was no sniper that could kill you up close with a quickscope when you have a shotgun that should automatically annihilate any sniper that tries. You have no idea how many times i shot a Sniper up close and they don't die, but then they quickscope and I die. :blush: Snipers are cool, but not when they are used in that way.

Also, they should have sections in COD where there are no full teams allowed. When you play with randoms, you shouldn't be paired up with clans. They had a game mode for that called mercenary team deathmatch. I found that fair. It's not really fair because you can't communicate with your team because they might not all have mics. I see all these streamers having 5 k/d ratio because they p;lay on a team and the other team is just playing together for the first time. I don't see how it is fair at all.

I like to play COD for fun and I loved turning on COD4 to play with viddy and hustla. Somehow I keep thinking that these new COD will fulfill the same excitement I had, but they don't because the same crap happens. Hustla doesn't even like COD anymore, but I still buy it because I think it will be like old times. Boy am I wrong.

I don't see how Black Ops 2 will be any improvement from Black Ops. Treyarch should have just stuck to making ww2 games. Black OPs was designed for xbox and they couldn't put it right for ps3. On ps3 it was UNPLAYABLE. It was really unplayable. The hit detection sucked major *****. It was the worst game I have ever played online. I would rather play Medal of Honor a million times then play black ops.
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all of the companies are given a template to wrok with, i dont care how they choose to add perks and make weapons more powerful that is their choice, but what isnt their choice is taking things out that work and replacing them with others. Yeah sure different companies want to leave a mark, but when you decide to participate in the franchise there are rules to follow. Company names dont mean much unless they just super fail at the project.

graphics-
story
weapons
realism

all of these things matter when taking on something that already exists and "make it better" but its not gonna work if you fix what isnt broken JUST to be different.

So that excuse is out the window for me, cause if that was the case? then buying COD should have stopped a long time ago instead of expecting improvements to be made on what we already like, not play a whole NEW game.

Like stated, MW2 is fun but a total nightmare. WAW took skill to play and it made a lasting impression on me.

Im just in the opinion that modern warfare became to much like playing around instead of being an active shootem up

which ALOT of HIGH PRESTIGE CAMPING SNIPERS CANT DO!!

the open multiplayer is supposed to be a run and gun.

Snipers SHOULD be able to get their own rooms though, like in gears, certain events are made for certain weapons.

dont take on a franchise if your only excuse is "we did it our way" like it or dont. pretty lazy if you ask me.

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I don't see what the problem with WAW is...

Sure the graphics weren't great or anything but it's not like it's brand new MW's weren't really any better and had far easier to design landscapes.
WAW was cool it felt like you were in the war tanks were loud and scary and the guns sounded powerful.

Ones in recent games sound pretty much the same.

Black Ops was better for customisation.
Mainly the emblem thing rest of it was pretty pointless, who's going to see it on your gun?...


It's obviously not going to happen in BO2 but killstreaks need to be changed UAV is ridiculous.
Everyone on the enemy team knows exactly where you are somehow, and can all just murder you.
And it only takes 3 kills to get.
And the cold blooded perk always takes up something far more useful.



Are we supposed to know who that old guy in the trailer is? I haven't a clue...
I hope it isn't Reznov...he wasn't that cool lol.
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It can't be Reznov. Reznov is Russian. The old guy is American :S Also, Reznov was voiced by Gary Oldman and that doesn't sound like Gary Oldman either.
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Also, Reznov died...
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I didn't know that because I never finished BLOPS since it was boring :D

Also this new Black Ops trailer actually reminds me of that scene in Star Wars Episode 1 when the battle droids fight the Jar Jar Binkses, I.e. a bunch of robots fighting a bunch of retards.
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I truly only got MW3 for the campaign, and to try out the multiplier.
I LOVED the campaign, it was truly stunning.
But, after playing the multiplier mode for a while, the next day I sent it to a automobile parts factory to use the disc for parts of their cars.
Lol, jk, but u get the idea on the fate of my disc.

I liked Black Ops alot, I enjoyed the the campaign, and the multiplayer was a HUUGEE improvement from MW2. If the 1st BO made such an improvement on Infinity Ward's *****ty piece of donkey ***** game, I wonder what BO2 can do.

But, I stick to the classics. CoD4 and WaW FTW. Then again, I'm not really that into CoD anymore.
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MW2 <<<<<< MW3 <<<<<<< Black Ops < World @ War <<< CoD 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Raging Blast 2

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May 8 2012, 09:26 PM
I truly only got MW3 for the campaign, and to try out the multiplier.
I LOVED the campaign, it was truly stunning.
But, after playing the multiplier mode for a while, the next day I sent it to a automobile parts factory to use the disc for parts of their cars.
Lol, jk, but u get the idea on the fate of my disc.

I liked Black Ops alot, I enjoyed the the campaign, and the multiplayer was a HUUGEE improvement from MW2. If the 1st BO made such an improvement on Infinity Ward's *****ty piece of donkey ***** game, I wonder what BO2 can do.

But, I stick to the classics. CoD4 and WaW FTW. Then again, I'm not really that into CoD anymore.
IMO:

MW2 <<<<<< MW3 <<<<<<< Black Ops < World @ War <<< CoD 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Raging Blast 2

IMO
There were at least 3 other CoD games that were out before CoD4 you know... hence the 4. However I would say WaW and CoD4 are likely to be considered the classics of this kind of genre with the way FPS games are seeming to be going.

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I agree, T4 was ***** and even the director admitted it would've been better if it'd been rated R.

Anyway, I don't know if I like the approach the game is supposedly going with the Terminator-like stuff. I like Terminator and I like COD, but they shouldn't mix. I also agree that Black Ops' campaign was dreadful. I pulled myself through that one - couldn't stand the cutscenes with Mason or whoever in the chair. I enjoyed the multiplayer when I had friends as teammates, though. I hope the campaign improves majorly for this one.
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My list would go like this:

#1 WaW - Awesome campaign, awesome multiplayer
#1 CoD 4 - ^^^^ ^^^^ (Tie between the two)
#3 Black Ops - Wager Matches were awesome. Campaign was a little weird, still good though. Multiplayer was a bit off.
#4 MW2 - Way too many boosters/glitchers. Eh campaign, no good maps. I could go on
#5 MW3 - A version of MW2 that was thrown in the recycle bin.
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May 8 2012, 11:32 PM
I agree, T4 was ***** and even the director admitted it would've been better if it'd been rated R.

Anyway, I don't know if I like the approach the game is supposedly going with the Terminator-like stuff. I like Terminator and I like COD, but they shouldn't mix. I also agree that Black Ops' campaign was dreadful. I pulled myself through that one - couldn't stand the cutscenes with Mason or whoever in the chair. I enjoyed the multiplayer when I had friends as teammates, though. I hope the campaign improves majorly for this one.
The way Black Ops does the whole like, dude in a chair scenes just reminds me of Assassins Creed, where you'd go around doing stuff as Altair and killing people, and then be interrupted by the stupid Desmond cut scenes in which you do nothing other than walk around a room listening to an old man talk.

Also, Assassins Creed's story is based somewhat in the future, so like Desmond is in the future and the implement more of the future elements the further the games progress, so in that respect I guess Treyarch are big fans of Assassins Creed - Another game which releases every year with no improved combat system and no improved graphics. :w00t:
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May 8 2012, 08:18 PM
Also, Reznov died...
Never actually seen him die though and CoD is a ridiculous series.

Plus voice actors can change...so I'm guessing nobody knows who it is? Fail with the whole I'm still alive thing. WOAH IMPACT! Don't know who he is, oh well.


Well at least AC looks good and has cool plotlines and such, show me a CoD game with good graphics...
In AC you can go anywhere and think "Wow, this is beautiful"
CoD...not so much.

It's not like it's going to have much of an orignal story just that SKYNET takes over and uses automated technology to kill humans...or is that Terminator I'm thinking of...
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Voice actors changing in CoD games? The games that had 3 different characters voices by the same man? (Gaz/Ghost/Wallcroft) XD I think the voice actors would probably want the attention Call of Duty provides so they wouldn't go too easily.
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Reznov was old in BO Which took place In the 60s? That can't be him, may e the main character of BO but he was voiced by Sam Worthington, but could have changed voice actor to make him sound older, who knows

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