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Super Baby Vegeta < Super Vegito; Facts.
Topic Started: Apr 27 2012, 02:14 AM (2,679 Views)
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Fact: When Goku said Super Baby Vegeta was stronger than anything he had ever felt before, it can safely be assumed he meant anything from the bag guys, or anything other than him since it would almost be silly to include himself in that statement. Therefore, Super Baby Vegeta < Super Vegito is fact.
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Uh...no. That wouldn't include Vegito.
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Gokus base was stronger than Buuhan. He felt the need to go ssj3 to match, as he said "I must go all the way". He didn't just barely go into ssj3 power wise like with Fat Buu, he went all the way to match the output. Who else could register on the scale of power besides Vegitto, as he had lapped all the Buu incarnations in space as a a base saiyan, to make Goku push himself all in in preparation for a fight?
Edited by Kblo247, Apr 27 2012, 04:49 AM.
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Thala na Gethu!

Kblo247
Apr 27 2012, 04:48 AM
Gokus base was stronger than Buuhan. He felt the need to go ssj3 to match, as he said "I must go all the way". He didn't just barely go into ssj3 power wise like with Fat Buu, he went all the way to match the output. Who else could register on the scale of power besides Vegitto, as he had lapped all the Buu incarnations in space as a a base saiyan, to make Goku push himself all in in preparation for a fight?
Can you provide statements or evidences supportin your statement on Goku's base bein stronger than Buuhan? Just curious to know pal.
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Base Goku was able to keep up with Super Saiya-jin Gohan, who was stated to be way stronger than Z Chou Gohan because he trained.
So Chou Gohan IMO ends up stronger than Buuhan but still not Super Vegito level, and I have Super Baby Vegeta way stronger than Vegito.


Dislike this, MoDB. thx c:
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Goku vs Rildo. He handles him in his base despite saying he is even stronger than Buu. The Rildo battle is also where Trunks gets fully that Pan is stronger than him naturally as does a sigma, as they had all miscalculated what she was truly capable of.
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The chain of power would later be solidified in the Baby and 17 sagas

Goku -> Vegeta ->>>>> Gohan ->>> Pan ->> Trunks ->>>> Goten ->>>>>> Bulla

Bulla - tanks a suppressed Kamehameha from Baby Gohan that was meant as a mere warning shot to test them. She also gets flung a mile by Vegeta and doesn't get a scratch on her. She also has enough power to help Baby transform into Vegetas ssj2 state. I think a fair estimate would put her perhaps where the saiyans were at Babadi only because she doesn't care about training or like to fly, but obviously has full control over her ki and is strong

Base Goten - stronger than Mr Buu
SSJ Goten - feels his power is on par with Gotenks ssj3 or Super Buu as that is where he ranked Baby when he sensed his power

Trunks - superior to Goten after space travels, as Baby openly stated SSJ Goten wasn't even half as strong as any of the 3 he met in space
SSJ Trunks - was well over the Super Buu threshold and Gotens power by Baby's own admission and inability to control him until he stayed Iin Gitens bodies and learned about saiyans and their makeup. Still was admittedly inferior to Gohan, Pan, Piccolo, Vegeta, and Goku by his own admission as well as a Uub as we would learn

Pan - she is able to rock an opponent in Rildo that Goku didn't even want Trunks to try to fight. She blows a sigma away depite them being stronger than Ledic and Muchy who the others used SSJ for in the early space adventures, and when the sigma questions how it happened in the data, she states that Gill had never seen her tap into her power when she is truly mad, meaning she is similar to Gohan vs Cell and can access it readily just hadn't. She also tells Goku that he can't even fire a weakened Kamehameha at Trunks in his base when Baby was inside him because he would kill him, so the gap is clearly implied as she sees Trunks limits even with a blast that as Goku stated wasn't meant to kill. Her gap on Goten is later showed clearly when he attacks her and Goku, as he goes SSJ and charges a ki blast that hits her and she is unphased, pissed, but not phased as she wants to know what is his deal. When Goten even suggests fighting her SSJ Gohan tells him know, he will have to do it. Kabito Kai also tells Satan to let her power Goku up because she had the heart and power of a SSJ even if she couldn't technically transform. She single handedly freezes a shadow dragon that Goku couldn't stop from pushing him back with a Kamehameha. Then she has another shadow dragon steal her power to just compete with goku as a ssj4. Lastly, Ice outright admitted that he a,bushed her to take the dragon balls, but she still fought back even after the fact, and he is as strong as Nova.

Gohan - is superior to Pan as we see a concentrated blast from his SSJ form Downs her unlike with Goten who barely dirtied her clothes. We also know that his base was at least able to keep up with Rildo before the medal beam so he has improved from the guy inferior to Buutenks.
SSJ Gohan - easily the strongest saiyan besides Vegeta as Baby stated on earth at the time. He also is implied to be ale to match the energy output of a healthy Majuub by the end of GT as he says he could fuse with Majuub when he was healthy and at full power, so he had been training which is why he is wearing a gi again.

Vegeta - Heart of the Prince outright states that his limits before ssj4 thanks to Bulma we're far above every other member of the Z team not named Goku. In fact it states that only he had enough power with his ssj2 limits to even fathom how powerful ssj4 Goku actually was. He is also implied to have basically kept the Baby power up, like he kept the Majin power up which is why only he could stand up to 17 for so long despite he and Gohan oth super charging him.

Goku - handles Rildo in his base despite saying he's stronger than any Buu incarnation. Then he handles Cell and Frieza, who ran hell and were Rildos bosses in his base. His ssj was superior to theother. His ssj4 was superior to Vegetas as well.


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Uub - spent all his time training while they were off in space and had gotten to be better than Gokus ssj3 level
Majuub - had enough power to make Baby Vegeta stop suppressing and was easily in a 3A/3B relationship with Gohan at the end of GT

Piccolo - Trunks outright stated he was stronger than him. He had enough power to make Gokus kid body do instant transmission. He also ruled over hell and called the likes of Cell, Rildo, and Frieza pure target practice for himself

18 and Buu - right where they were before in Z
Edited by Kblo247, Apr 27 2012, 10:34 AM.
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I knew it, and Gt doesn't have to be overpowered, make more of these threads MoDB!
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How can something made of assumptions and opinions be facts?

Anyway, he didn't exclude good guys or himself from the statement so it's simpler to include them. Also, Goku's huge base power at this point alongside Baby's dominance over SSJ3 Goku means that Super Baby Vegeta > Super Vegito makes sense.
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Super Baby Vegeta >> SSJ3 Kid Goku ( with tail ) > Super Vegetto ( anime ) >> Super Vegetto ( manga ) , my opinion.
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Nobody surpassed SSjin Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby 1. Normal Vegeta-Baby was so far above SSjin 3 Goku that he literally pimp-slapped Goku out of the form. Gaining a tail merely eliminated the stamina drain of the form - it didn't boost Goku's power by any huge magnitude or anything.

Super Vegeta-Baby 2 >>> Super Vegeta-Baby 1 > SSjin Vegetto >> Vegeta-Baby >>> SSjin 3 Goku

Unfortunately, that requires a multiplier of more than 10x for us battle power guys.
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Goku > Yamcha GT > Super Vegerot > Super Vegeta Baby.

Yamcha should have fought.

les b frens.

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I am not seeing evidence here, my trollish friends. I presented a fact and none of you have the power to do anything about it. Accept the truth that you are all misled in your journey to justify Toei's worldwide troll of the community.
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I love how Broly said that this thread rocks and you disliked his post xD.
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Goku says that Rildo is stronger than Boo. He means the Boo that he chills with daily. That Boo gets as strong as Vegito. It's stated. Noobs is like, "But Boo, u strong den that Boo. u can't beat the Super Baby?"

Then Boo is like no, but together... maybe?

So, Oob is much stronger than Vegito because Mr. Fat Boo is stronger than Satan and Super Boo and Vegito, because he trains and learn all sorts of cool techniques like Tri Beam and Freeza Death Beam, but he can't use them because none of them work on the fresh new enemy that pops up called Baby. Hyper Beam is ineffective.

Hyper Beam is ineffective. Sorry :'( .
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