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SSJ2 Vegeta EOZ vs SSJ Gotenks post
Topic Started: Apr 22 2012, 01:50 PM (1,976 Views)
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Teen GohanZ
Apr 23 2012, 06:31 PM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Apr 23 2012, 06:27 PM
Teen GohanZ
Apr 23 2012, 06:17 PM
We don't know if Vegeta got the same hax that Goku did at the end of the series. I personally don't think he is equal to Goku, he said it himself, Goku is smarter at training.
He still thought he'd beat Goku at the end, though! :arrg:
Liez, he never said such a thing. The closest we get is in the Kanzenban ending (Not even sure if that counts as canon?) where he says:

Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P17.1 [Kanzenban]
Context: after Goku flies off with Oob
Vegeta: “I’ll definitely win soon. You’ll see, Kakarot… ”
I hoped you would post that because I was too lazy to do it. So, "soon" means he either had SSjin 3 up his sleeve and just needed to get a bit stronger, or was about equal with Goku and just needed SSjin 3. Shazam.
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Apr 23 2012, 06:06 PM
Yeah, I have Vegeta stomping a mudhole in Base Gotenks, but if Gotenks was allowed to transform he'd win.
This is SSjin Gotenks, not Base Gotenks, that's why I said Gotenks would win.
Hey Piccolo......are..are you a Yoshi?
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Yeah, I misread, but I was too lazy to edit my post. Been lethargic all day.
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Teen GohanZ
Apr 23 2012, 06:31 PM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Apr 23 2012, 06:27 PM
Teen GohanZ
Apr 23 2012, 06:17 PM
We don't know if Vegeta got the same hax that Goku did at the end of the series. I personally don't think he is equal to Goku, he said it himself, Goku is smarter at training.
He still thought he'd beat Goku at the end, though! :arrg:
Liez, he never said such a thing. The closest we get is in the Kanzenban ending (Not even sure if that counts as canon?) where he says:

Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P17.1 [Kanzenban]
Context: after Goku flies off with Oob
Vegeta: “I’ll definitely win soon. You’ll see, Kakarot… ”
Vegeta went in the tourney with the idea he could beat Mr Buu at least to get to Goku and this great fighter (Bulma states Vegeta is second on earth as well when UUbs existence as the mystery guy is brought up), and the no SSJ rule was logically still in place or else Goten wouldn't have been crying about getting Buu after years of progression (slow but progression nonetheless).
Edited by Kblo247, Apr 24 2012, 05:09 AM.
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Base Vegeta (Boo): 1
SSjin 2 Vegeta (Boo): 40
Base Gotenks (pre): 41.5
Good Boo: 90
Fat Boo: 225
Oob (Enraged): 245
Base Vegeta (EOZ): 270
SSjin 3 Goku (Boo): 320
SSjin Gotenks (pre): 415
SSjin Gotenks (expected): 540
Base Gotenks (post): 1,450
SSjin Vegeta (EOZ): 2,700
SSjin 2 Vegeta (EOZ): 10,800
SSjin Gotenks (post): 14,500

Wow, I guess my initial thoughts were incorrect. Gotenks would stomp Vegeta.
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Apr 24 2012, 09:34 AM
Base Vegeta (Boo): 1
SSjin 2 Vegeta (Boo): 40
Base Gotenks (pre): 41.5
Good Boo: 90
Fat Boo: 225
Oob (Enraged): 245
Base Vegeta (EOZ): 270
SSjin 3 Goku (Boo): 320
SSjin Gotenks (pre): 415
SSjin Gotenks (expected): 540
Base Gotenks (post): 1,450
SSjin Vegeta (EOZ): 2,700
SSjin 2 Vegeta (EOZ): 10,800
SSjin Gotenks (post): 14,500

Wow, I guess my initial thoughts were incorrect. Gotenks would stomp Vegeta.
Is your ssj3 multiplier 8x?
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Apr 24 2012, 09:39 AM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Apr 24 2012, 09:34 AM
Base Vegeta (Boo): 1
SSjin 2 Vegeta (Boo): 40
Base Gotenks (pre): 41.5
Good Boo: 90
Fat Boo: 225
Oob (Enraged): 245
Base Vegeta (EOZ): 270
SSjin 3 Goku (Boo): 320
SSjin Gotenks (pre): 415
SSjin Gotenks (expected): 540
Base Gotenks (post): 1,450
SSjin Vegeta (EOZ): 2,700
SSjin 2 Vegeta (EOZ): 10,800
SSjin Gotenks (post): 14,500

Wow, I guess my initial thoughts were incorrect. Gotenks would stomp Vegeta.
Is your ssj3 multiplier 8x?
Yep, it sure is.
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Apr 24 2012, 09:34 AM
Base Vegeta (Boo): 1
SSjin 2 Vegeta (Boo): 40
Base Gotenks (pre): 41.5
Good Boo: 90
Fat Boo: 225
Oob (Enraged): 245
Base Vegeta (EOZ): 270
SSjin 3 Goku (Boo): 320
SSjin Gotenks (pre): 415
SSjin Gotenks (expected): 540
Base Gotenks (post): 1,450
SSjin Vegeta (EOZ): 2,700
SSjin 2 Vegeta (EOZ): 10,800
SSjin Gotenks (post): 14,500

Wow, I guess my initial thoughts were incorrect. Gotenks would stomp Vegeta.
Base Vegeta: 1.
SSjin 2 Vegeta: 50.
Base Gotenks: 60.
Good Boo: 120.
Fat Boo: 360.
Oob: 430
Base Vegeta: 450.
SSjin 3 Goku: 500.
SSjin Gotenks (expected): 850.
SSjin Gotenks: 600.
Base Gotenks: 1,700.
SSjin Vegeta: 4,500.
SSjin 2 Vegeta: 22,500.
SSjin Gotenks: 17,000.

In my point of view, Vegeta one-shots. Why do you think that Vegeta is weaker than SSjin 3 Goku by a lot? I see Vegeta nearing him.
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Apr 24 2012, 10:08 AM
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Apr 24 2012, 09:34 AM
Base Vegeta (Boo): 1
SSjin 2 Vegeta (Boo): 40
Base Gotenks (pre): 41.5
Good Boo: 90
Fat Boo: 225
Oob (Enraged): 245
Base Vegeta (EOZ): 270
SSjin 3 Goku (Boo): 320
SSjin Gotenks (pre): 415
SSjin Gotenks (expected): 540
Base Gotenks (post): 1,450
SSjin Vegeta (EOZ): 2,700
SSjin 2 Vegeta (EOZ): 10,800
SSjin Gotenks (post): 14,500

Wow, I guess my initial thoughts were incorrect. Gotenks would stomp Vegeta.
Base Vegeta: 1.
SSjin 2 Vegeta: 50.
Base Gotenks: 60.
Good Boo: 120.
Fat Boo: 360.
Oob: 430
Base Vegeta: 450.
SSjin 3 Goku: 500.
SSjin Gotenks (expected): 850.
SSjin Gotenks: 600.
Base Gotenks: 1,700.
SSjin Vegeta: 4,500.
SSjin 2 Vegeta: 22,500.
SSjin Gotenks: 17,000.

In my point of view, Vegeta one-shots. Why do you think that Vegeta is weaker than SSjin 3 Goku by a lot? I see Vegeta nearing him.
What do you mean? Vegeta would get stomped by SSjin 3 Goku.
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