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SSjin 3 Gokan (EoZ) vs. SSjin 3 Goku (Baby Saga)
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Topic Started: Apr 20 2012, 02:09 PM (745 Views)
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Apr 20 2012, 02:09 PM
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Who would win and why? No strain and ki loss for both.
Scenario 1: Pre-Tail Goku.
Scenario 2: Post-Tail Goku.
EDIT: This is a Potara fusion.
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Apr 20 2012, 03:48 PM
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First of all is this potara earing fusion or regular fusion dance?
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Apr 20 2012, 04:07 PM
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I assume it's the metamoran fusion (dance) since it's Gokan (Goku + Gohan) and not Kakarohan, Gohotto or whatever (Kakarotto + Gohan), as in Vegetto (Kakarotto + Vegeta).
I really don't know who'd come out stronger since I don't know anything about GT, but would the SSJ3 transformation be stronger than usual on Gokan or do you believe in a fixed multiplier?
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Apr 20 2012, 04:42 PM
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I have SSjin3 Gokan taking this.
SSjin3 Son Goku Bebi saga would be closer to SSjin1/2 Vegetto (Boo), haven't really made my mind up yet on which, even post tail I think he loses.
SSjin3 Gokan (EoZ) > SSjin3 Vegetto (Boo) > Vegeta-Bebi > SSjin3 Son Goku > Base Son Goku (Simplest terms obviously)
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Apr 20 2012, 04:48 PM
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I have SSjin3 Gokan taking this.
SSjin3 Son Goku Bebi saga would be closer to SSjin1/2 Vegetto (Boo), haven't really made my mind up yet on which, even post tail I think he loses.
na SSJ 3 Goku in baby saga is about 400x stronger than buuhan unless the multipliers are different for gt regardless I would say his power advantage over buuhan is much greater than vegettos . Base Goku is about equal to rildo who was stated to being as strong as Buuhan. Manga Vegetto is in ssj1 form is probably 3-10x stronger than buuhan and about 6-20x stronger in ssj2 form. In the anime hes probably 100-200x stronger than buuhan at ssj2 form. Still hes not touching SSJ 3 goku in baby saga.
I would say this makes sense to me.
SSJ 3 Gokan(eoz)>Bebi Vegeta>SSJ 3 Vegetto~SSJ 3 Goku Baby Saga
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I have SSjin3 Gokan taking this.
SSjin3 Son Goku Bebi saga would be closer to SSjin1/2 Vegetto (Boo), haven't really made my mind up yet on which, even post tail I think he loses.
na SSJ 3 Goku in baby saga is about 400x stronger than buuhan unless the multipliers are different for gt regardless I would say his power advantage over buuhan is much greater than vegettos . Base Goku is about equal to rildo who was stated to being as strong as Buuhan. Manga Vegetto is in ssj1 form is probably 3-10x stronger than buuhan and about 6-20x stronger in ssj2 form. In the anime hes probably 100-200x stronger than buuhan at ssj2 form. Still hes not touching SSJ 3 goku in baby saga. I would say this makes sense to me. SSJ 3 Gokan(eoz)>Bebi Vegeta>SSJ 3 Vegetto~SSJ 3 Goku Baby Saga
GT multipliers are ridiculously low. It's implied that Oozaru's 10x multiplier is greater than the combined boost of all three Super forms. Goku didn't get ahead of SSjin Vegetto until he went SSjin 4.
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I have SSjin3 Gokan taking this.
SSjin3 Son Goku Bebi saga would be closer to SSjin1/2 Vegetto (Boo), haven't really made my mind up yet on which, even post tail I think he loses.
na SSJ 3 Goku in baby saga is about 400x stronger than buuhan unless the multipliers are different for gt regardless I would say his power advantage over buuhan is much greater than vegettos . Base Goku is about equal to rildo who was stated to being as strong as Buuhan. Manga Vegetto is in ssj1 form is probably 3-10x stronger than buuhan and about 6-20x stronger in ssj2 form. In the anime hes probably 100-200x stronger than buuhan at ssj2 form. Still hes not touching SSJ 3 goku in baby saga. I would say this makes sense to me. SSJ 3 Gokan(eoz)>Bebi Vegeta>SSJ 3 Vegetto~SSJ 3 Goku Baby Saga
GT multipliers are ridiculously low. It's implied that Oozaru's 10x multiplier is greater than the combined boost of all three Super forms. Goku didn't get ahead of SSjin Vegetto until he went SSjin 4.
Good luck having ssj vegito > ssj3 goku and baby gohan(base) >>> gohan-buu at the same time.
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Apr 20 2012, 09:02 PM
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I have SSjin3 Gokan taking this.
SSjin3 Son Goku Bebi saga would be closer to SSjin1/2 Vegetto (Boo), haven't really made my mind up yet on which, even post tail I think he loses.
na SSJ 3 Goku in baby saga is about 400x stronger than buuhan unless the multipliers are different for gt regardless I would say his power advantage over buuhan is much greater than vegettos . Base Goku is about equal to rildo who was stated to being as strong as Buuhan. Manga Vegetto is in ssj1 form is probably 3-10x stronger than buuhan and about 6-20x stronger in ssj2 form. In the anime hes probably 100-200x stronger than buuhan at ssj2 form. Still hes not touching SSJ 3 goku in baby saga. I would say this makes sense to me. SSJ 3 Gokan(eoz)>Bebi Vegeta>SSJ 3 Vegetto~SSJ 3 Goku Baby Saga
GT multipliers are ridiculously low. It's implied that Oozaru's 10x multiplier is greater than the combined boost of all three Super forms. Goku didn't get ahead of SSjin Vegetto until he went SSjin 4.
Idk that wasn't a regular oozaru lol that was a golden oozaru wasn't the same one as the dragon ball z one. Don't think you can apply one of dragon ball z's multipliers and discard the others thats contrdicatory.
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I have SSjin3 Gokan taking this.
SSjin3 Son Goku Bebi saga would be closer to SSjin1/2 Vegetto (Boo), haven't really made my mind up yet on which, even post tail I think he loses.
na SSJ 3 Goku in baby saga is about 400x stronger than buuhan unless the multipliers are different for gt regardless I would say his power advantage over buuhan is much greater than vegettos . Base Goku is about equal to rildo who was stated to being as strong as Buuhan. Manga Vegetto is in ssj1 form is probably 3-10x stronger than buuhan and about 6-20x stronger in ssj2 form. In the anime hes probably 100-200x stronger than buuhan at ssj2 form. Still hes not touching SSJ 3 goku in baby saga. I would say this makes sense to me. SSJ 3 Gokan(eoz)>Bebi Vegeta>SSJ 3 Vegetto~SSJ 3 Goku Baby Saga
GT multipliers are ridiculously low. It's implied that Oozaru's 10x multiplier is greater than the combined boost of all three Super forms. Goku didn't get ahead of SSjin Vegetto until he went SSjin 4.
Good luck having ssj vegito > ssj3 goku and baby gohan(base) >>> gohan-buu at the same time.
It's completely doable. The gap between Vegetto and Gohan-Boo just has to be pretty large. Doesn't negate the fight that shows SSjin 3 Goku (Baby fight) < SSjin Vegetto. SSjin 3 Goku got straight whooped by normal Vegeta-Baby, who then transformed again, which is when he was stated to be stronger than Vegetto, and then transformed once more. Goku couldn't do anything at all to him until he went SSjin 4.
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I have SSjin3 Gokan taking this.
SSjin3 Son Goku Bebi saga would be closer to SSjin1/2 Vegetto (Boo), haven't really made my mind up yet on which, even post tail I think he loses.
na SSJ 3 Goku in baby saga is about 400x stronger than buuhan unless the multipliers are different for gt regardless I would say his power advantage over buuhan is much greater than vegettos . Base Goku is about equal to rildo who was stated to being as strong as Buuhan. Manga Vegetto is in ssj1 form is probably 3-10x stronger than buuhan and about 6-20x stronger in ssj2 form. In the anime hes probably 100-200x stronger than buuhan at ssj2 form. Still hes not touching SSJ 3 goku in baby saga. I would say this makes sense to me. SSJ 3 Gokan(eoz)>Bebi Vegeta>SSJ 3 Vegetto~SSJ 3 Goku Baby Saga
GT multipliers are ridiculously low. It's implied that Oozaru's 10x multiplier is greater than the combined boost of all three Super forms. Goku didn't get ahead of SSjin Vegetto until he went SSjin 4.
Good luck having ssj vegito > ssj3 goku and baby gohan(base) >>> gohan-buu at the same time.
It's completely doable. The gap between Vegetto and Gohan-Boo just has to be pretty large. Doesn't negate the fight that shows SSjin 3 Goku (Baby fight) < SSjin Vegetto. SSjin 3 Goku got straight whooped by normal Vegeta-Baby, who then transformed again, which is when he was stated to be stronger than Vegetto, and then transformed once more. Goku couldn't do anything at all to him until he went SSjin 4.
It'll have to be at least a x50 gap(between vegito and boo) in order to have ssj3 goku < ssj vegito.
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I have SSjin3 Gokan taking this.
SSjin3 Son Goku Bebi saga would be closer to SSjin1/2 Vegetto (Boo), haven't really made my mind up yet on which, even post tail I think he loses.
na SSJ 3 Goku in baby saga is about 400x stronger than buuhan unless the multipliers are different for gt regardless I would say his power advantage over buuhan is much greater than vegettos . Base Goku is about equal to rildo who was stated to being as strong as Buuhan. Manga Vegetto is in ssj1 form is probably 3-10x stronger than buuhan and about 6-20x stronger in ssj2 form. In the anime hes probably 100-200x stronger than buuhan at ssj2 form. Still hes not touching SSJ 3 goku in baby saga. I would say this makes sense to me. SSJ 3 Gokan(eoz)>Bebi Vegeta>SSJ 3 Vegetto~SSJ 3 Goku Baby Saga
GT multipliers are ridiculously low. It's implied that Oozaru's 10x multiplier is greater than the combined boost of all three Super forms. Goku didn't get ahead of SSjin Vegetto until he went SSjin 4.
Good luck having ssj vegito > ssj3 goku and baby gohan(base) >>> gohan-buu at the same time.
It's completely doable. The gap between Vegetto and Gohan-Boo just has to be pretty large. Doesn't negate the fight that shows SSjin 3 Goku (Baby fight) < SSjin Vegetto. SSjin 3 Goku got straight whooped by normal Vegeta-Baby, who then transformed again, which is when he was stated to be stronger than Vegetto, and then transformed once more. Goku couldn't do anything at all to him until he went SSjin 4.
It'll have to be at least a x50 gap(between vegito and boo) in order to have ssj3 goku < ssj vegito.
Then so be it. The strength chain is stated to be that way.
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Is this gt multiplier factual or theoritical?
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Is this gt multiplier factual or theoritical?
Rildo stated Goku wasn't even using half his power when he transformed, implying a 2-3x multiplier, otherwise he'd have said Goku wasn't using a third of his power or something. The GT Perfect Files says SSjin 2 gives such a minimal boost that Goku skips right over it to SSjin 3, implying a tiny multiplier for SSjin 2 and a larger one for SSjin 3. All of them still need to be less than 10x combined for Oozaru to be such a heralded transformation at that point.
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Is this gt multiplier factual or theoritical?
Rildo stated Goku wasn't even using half his power when he transformed, implying a 2-3x multiplier, otherwise he'd have said Goku wasn't using a third of his power or something. The GT Perfect Files says SSjin 2 gives such a minimal boost that Goku skips right over it to SSjin 3, implying a tiny multiplier for SSjin 2 and a larger one for SSjin 3. All of them still need to be less than 10x combined for Oozaru to be such a heralded transformation at that point.
that makes sense.And the ssj4 has a 1000x multiplier?
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Is this gt multiplier factual or theoritical?
Rildo stated Goku wasn't even using half his power when he transformed, implying a 2-3x multiplier, otherwise he'd have said Goku wasn't using a third of his power or something. The GT Perfect Files says SSjin 2 gives such a minimal boost that Goku skips right over it to SSjin 3, implying a tiny multiplier for SSjin 2 and a larger one for SSjin 3. All of them still need to be less than 10x combined for Oozaru to be such a heralded transformation at that point.
that makes sense.And the ssj4 has a 1000x multiplier?
Whoa, I don't know about that high, but it should be more than 10x, at least for Goku. When Goku was finished going Oozaru, his power was stated to still be rising during his progression to SSjin 4.
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