Surpassed Limits SSJ4 Mr. Satan vs Frieza (1st Form)

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Surpassed Limits SSJ4 Mr. Satan vs Frieza (1st Form); Frieza can't fly or use energy blasts
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 19 2012, 09:58 PM (1,530 Views)
Team Four Star	Apr 19 2012, 09:58 PM Post #1
Posts: 603 Group: Member Member #6,199 Joined: May 15, 2011 What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Who wins?



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Apr 19 2012, 11:09 PM Post #2
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	Using potential unlock for SSjin 4, Furiza absolutely godstomps Using set multiplier, Furiza still wins because it would have to be a 66 250x (using 530 000 for Furiza, 8 for Mr Satan) multiplier. MoDB stop playing devil's advocate and disliking everyone's posts Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Apr 20 2012, 07:20 PM.



Goha	Apr 19 2012, 11:11 PM Post #3
Gohad Posts: 80 Group: Member Member #7,544 Joined: April 15, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon ball What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga One piece	Well.....super saiyan four is around 500X base. Super saiyan: 50X Great Ape: 10X Ssj4: 500X (Ssj4 Is "human" golden great ape.) Mr satan is around 28 or so. 28 X 50 X 10= 140,000 Plus 50,000 (Surpassed limit)= 190,000 Frieza first form...iMO. Edited by Goha, Apr 19 2012, 11:20 PM.
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+ supersaqer	Apr 20 2012, 07:06 AM Post #4
Transcendent Posts: 5,117 Group: Elite Member Member #5,137 Joined: August 13, 2010 Gender Not Specified	As a fixed multiplier, Satan without the limits surpassing gets stomped IMO. With it he'd get at the very most 10-fold his current power. He surpasses Frieza IMO. Satan one-shots. As a potential unlock, Satan would get on the 21st Budokai Tenkaichi's level. With limits surpassed, I'll have him at the very most around Raditz's level. Likely less than him. He gets stomped anyway. Edited by supersaqer, Apr 20 2012, 10:46 AM.
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MysticGotenks	Apr 20 2012, 07:39 AM Post #5
Posts: 761 Group: Member Member #7,087 Joined: December 17, 2011	I actually think going by potential unlock Satan will put up less of a fight than if it was a fixed multiplier XD. He loses in both situations, very, very badly.
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InterWebZ	Apr 20 2012, 08:42 AM Post #6
Posts: 380 Group: Member Member #7,450 Joined: March 16, 2012	Using a 50 000x multipler for Satan, that brings Satan to 500 000 or so (using 10 for Satan), which could put up a half-decent fight against 1st form Frieza. Using a potential unlock, I'd say his absolute maximum possible, probably grossly overestimated, is 1000.



Goha	Apr 20 2012, 09:02 PM Post #7
Gohad Posts: 80 Group: Member Member #7,544 Joined: April 15, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon ball What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga One piece	Why does "Master of Dragon ball" dislike most posts?
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+ Clearin	Apr 20 2012, 09:09 PM Post #8
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Well with the whole SSj4 = Potential thing Mr Satan would get stomped.



bloodstained euphy	Apr 21 2012, 05:23 AM Post #9
Posts: 842 Group: Member Member #7,357 Joined: February 25, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Code Geas, Dinosaur King, Sword Art Online, One Punch Man, Danganronpa What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	InterWebZ Apr 20 2012, 08:42 AM Using a 50 000x multipler for Satan, that brings Satan to 500 000 or so (using 10 for Satan), which could put up a half-decent fight against 1st form Frieza. Using a potential unlock, I'd say his absolute maximum possible, probably grossly overestimated, is 1000. do you realize that would be below ssj3 hercule? this is why the fixed multiplier is a must use for ssj4 about the fight, frieza wins easily Edited by bloodstained euphy, Apr 21 2012, 05:27 AM.



Billa	Apr 21 2012, 05:35 AM Post #10
Thala na Gethu! Posts: 4,218 Group: Member Member #7,273 Joined: February 3, 2012 Favourite Anime Nothin What Browser do you use? Nothin Favourite Manga Nothin	No troll, no offence. U know pal, it amazes me on versus topics which sound like Carrot vs Crocodile. Can carrot actually fight? SSJ is already an exclusive form for Saiyans. Heck, there are some unfortunate Saiyans that never even attained it sadly, Nappa for an example. Now, for a SSJ4, & Mr.Satan's name to appear next to it is simply...what Man?! Please dont suspend me for trollin, for I actually dont mean it. But this topic simply compelled me to post this...Please Moderator's, excuse me this time around....



InterWebZ	Apr 21 2012, 06:18 AM Post #11
Posts: 380 Group: Member Member #7,450 Joined: March 16, 2012	While SSJ is indeed available only to Saiyans, that doesn't mean we can't construct hypothetical situations where non-Saiyan characters have access to it. It's basically saying that if other characters could also use the SSJ multipliers, what would they be capable of? And uh, Quote: Using a potential unlock, I'd say his absolute maximum possible, probably grossly overestimated, is 1000. do you realize that would be below ssj3 hercule? Yes, of course it would be. A potential unlock in my book depends on how strong the character is at the time they get it. If that PL is low, then it could indeed come in below a multiplier. The only SSJ4's we see are Goku and Vegeta, who already had extremely high PL's when they achieved SSJ4.



bloodstained euphy	Apr 21 2012, 08:47 AM Post #12
Posts: 842 Group: Member Member #7,357 Joined: February 25, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Code Geas, Dinosaur King, Sword Art Online, One Punch Man, Danganronpa What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	InterWebZ Apr 21 2012, 06:18 AM While SSJ is indeed available only to Saiyans, that doesn't mean we can't construct hypothetical situations where non-Saiyan characters have access to it. It's basically saying that if other characters could also use the SSJ multipliers, what would they be capable of? And uh, Quote: Using a potential unlock, I'd say his absolute maximum possible, probably grossly overestimated, is 1000. do you realize that would be below ssj3 hercule? Yes, of course it would be. A potential unlock in my book depends on how strong the character is at the time they get it. If that PL is low, then it could indeed come in below a multiplier. The only SSJ4's we see are Goku and Vegeta, who already had extremely high PL's when they achieved SSJ4. ssj4 has to be above ssj3, that's why it has to have a fixed multiplier



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Apr 22 2012, 01:29 AM Post #13
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	I have SSjin 4 as both a set multiplier and a potential unlock. Golden Oozaru, firstly, is 10x SSjin 3 for me (4 000x multiplier) SSjin 4 has the same multiplier, but also has a full potential unlock. At least, that's what I use. Hercule: 8 Golden Oozaru: 32 000 SSjin 4 Hercule: >32 000 (?) His potential can't be great enough that it shoots up to 530 000 IMO, so Hercule still loses.



Battle Power	Apr 22 2012, 11:55 AM Post #14
Posts: 663 Group: Member Member #6,803 Joined: September 28, 2011	I have Mr. Satan at 9 ~ 10, for him to win the multiplier for SSJ4 would've to be immense, but I don't know about it. I just really wanna say his hair would be a mess on SSJ4, sorry.
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LSSJ4 Batman	Nov 23 2012, 08:22 PM Post #15
The Champ Posts: 623 Group: Duplicate Member #8,485 Joined: October 29, 2012	SL SSJ4 Mr. Satan - 588,000 Frieza - 530,000 Satan wins
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