Base Gotenks Pre Vs Super Perfect Cell

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Base Gotenks Pre Vs Super Perfect Cell
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 19 2012, 06:17 AM (4,337 Views)
~~no name~~	Apr 19 2012, 06:28 PM Post #16
Posts: 1,343 Group: GTFO Member #7,314 Joined: February 12, 2012	Teen GohanZ Apr 19 2012, 01:12 PM no name Apr 19 2012, 01:11 PM Base Gotenks was sure he could beat Buu and the kids had already both seen Vegeta fighting and losing.Therefore,Base Gotenks is at least slightly stronger than SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is leagues above SPC. Gotenks easily wins this. The kids also saw Fat Buu's full power and sensed SSj3 Goku's power who (as far as they knew) couldn't beat Buu. SSJ3 Goku vs Fat Buu fight did not end,but Vegeta undoubtefully lost.So,Base Gotenks couldn't believe he could succeed where SSJ2 Majin Vegeta had failed,if he was not at least a little stronger than him.Sure Gotenks was cocky,but he was not unreasonable.



CRYPTIC	Apr 19 2012, 08:03 PM Post #17
Posts: 340 Group: Member Member #7,353 Joined: February 24, 2012	But the outcome of the battle was him getting stomped while Majin Vegeta put up a better fight.



+ Pyrus	Apr 19 2012, 08:59 PM Post #18
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	CRYPTIC Apr 19 2012, 08:03 PM But the outcome of the battle was him getting stomped while Majin Vegeta put up a better fight. Majin Vegeta got stomped once Boo got angry. He got stomped so badly that he knew he had no chance of escaping or winning. Gotenks managed to escape with about the same amount of damage, possibly a little less as he wasn't crippled like Vegeta was. We don't know how his fight with Boo went, though.
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MysticGotenks	Apr 19 2012, 09:05 PM Post #19
Posts: 761 Group: Member Member #7,087 Joined: December 17, 2011	Yeah, for all we know Gotenks could have beat Boo around, showing off all sorts of tricks, but then Boo got angry and beat the living daylights out of Gotenks, yet he managed to do something good enough to allow him to escape, without Boo following him. We all know how much Boo wants to play, I doubt he would let Gotenks leave just like that, Gotenks must have done something to hurt Boo or distract him long enough to escape...
	Hey Piccolo......are..are you a Yoshi?


SuperSaiyan1993	Apr 19 2012, 10:07 PM Post #20
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	Why does everyone use the " Gotenks escaped and Vegeta didn't so he's better" argument? That doesn't prove anything. Vegeta had NO INTENTION of escaping. He thought if he unleashed all of his power that it would destroy Buu. He was wrong, but it nearly did eradicate Buu. The point is he sacrificed himself to save the world, not because he thought he couldn't escape.
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


+ Pyrus	Apr 19 2012, 10:10 PM Post #21
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	supersaiyan1993 Apr 19 2012, 10:07 PM Why does everyone use the " Gotenks escaped and Vegeta didn't so he's better" argument? That doesn't prove anything. Vegeta had NO INTENTION of escaping. He thought if he unleashed all of his power that it would destroy Buu. He was wrong, but it nearly did eradicate Buu. The point is he sacrificed himself to save the world, not because he thought he couldn't escape. It was made obvious that he couldn't escape even if he wanted to.
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SuperSaiyan1993	Apr 19 2012, 10:29 PM Post #22
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	ObsessiveFanGuy Apr 19 2012, 10:10 PM supersaiyan1993 Apr 19 2012, 10:07 PM Why does everyone use the " Gotenks escaped and Vegeta didn't so he's better" argument? That doesn't prove anything. Vegeta had NO INTENTION of escaping. He thought if he unleashed all of his power that it would destroy Buu. He was wrong, but it nearly did eradicate Buu. The point is he sacrificed himself to save the world, not because he thought he couldn't escape. It was made obvious that he couldn't escape even if he wanted to. "Obvious" is a matter of perspective. Unless it's stated, then it's just up to interpretation. From my point of view, Vegeta saw himself as the most powerful warrior in the universe because he didn't know about fusion or SSJ3. Therefore, he thought it was up to him to stop Buu otherwise he'd destroy them all. An all or nothing situation.
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


CRYPTIC	Apr 20 2012, 07:55 AM Post #23
Posts: 340 Group: Member Member #7,353 Joined: February 24, 2012	ObsessiveFanGuy Apr 19 2012, 08:59 PM CRYPTIC Apr 19 2012, 08:03 PM But the outcome of the battle was him getting stomped while Majin Vegeta put up a better fight. Majin Vegeta got stomped once Boo got angry. He got stomped so badly that he knew he had no chance of escaping or winning. Gotenks managed to escape with about the same amount of damage, possibly a little less as he wasn't crippled like Vegeta was. We don't know how his fight with Boo went, though. Gotenks escaping is just a plot device. He got stomped just as badly or worse than Majin Vegeta therefore their about equal in my eyes.



+ Pyrus	Apr 20 2012, 07:59 AM Post #24
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	supersaiyan1993 Apr 19 2012, 10:29 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Apr 19 2012, 10:10 PM supersaiyan1993 Apr 19 2012, 10:07 PM Why does everyone use the " Gotenks escaped and Vegeta didn't so he's better" argument? That doesn't prove anything. Vegeta had NO INTENTION of escaping. He thought if he unleashed all of his power that it would destroy Buu. He was wrong, but it nearly did eradicate Buu. The point is he sacrificed himself to save the world, not because he thought he couldn't escape. It was made obvious that he couldn't escape even if he wanted to. "Obvious" is a matter of perspective. Unless it's stated, then it's just up to interpretation. From my point of view, Vegeta saw himself as the most powerful warrior in the universe because he didn't know about fusion or SSJ3. Therefore, he thought it was up to him to stop Buu otherwise he'd destroy them all. An all or nothing situation. I didn't mean to say it as fact, my apologies. I just meant that he knew Boo wouldn't let him escape either way, so he had to fight to the end. CRYPTIC Apr 20 2012, 07:55 AM ObsessiveFanGuy Apr 19 2012, 08:59 PM CRYPTIC Apr 19 2012, 08:03 PM But the outcome of the battle was him getting stomped while Majin Vegeta put up a better fight. Majin Vegeta got stomped once Boo got angry. He got stomped so badly that he knew he had no chance of escaping or winning. Gotenks managed to escape with about the same amount of damage, possibly a little less as he wasn't crippled like Vegeta was. We don't know how his fight with Boo went, though. Gotenks escaping is just a plot device. He got stomped just as badly or worse than Majin Vegeta therefore their about equal in my eyes. He had the power to fly back to the Lookout and wasn't crippled. That's more than I can say for Vegeta. Edited by Pyrus, Apr 20 2012, 07:59 AM.
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* Yu Narukami	Apr 20 2012, 02:56 PM Post #25
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Gotenks fought the same Boo that Majin Vegeta did. He didn't lower in power otherwise it would've been stated by someone. We didn't see the fight, but we knew that Gotenks managed to escape. It's quite obvious that Gotenks got beaten quite badly, he wouldn't want to retreat unless it was absolutely necessary. However, he did manage to escape after being beaten very badly by Boo, whereas Vegeta, who got exactly the same treatment, didn't have the option of escape, even though he had the Madoshi charm increasing his stamina and strength.



MysticGotenks	Apr 20 2012, 07:19 PM Post #26
Posts: 761 Group: Member Member #7,087 Joined: December 17, 2011	Gohan tried to escape Boo, but Boo far outclassed him in speed and he failed miserably - they hadn't even begun to fight. Boo wanted the kids (I guess Piccolo also) to stay when they kicked Boo away but Vegeta was like "nah, come at me bro" and saw no reason to try and escape, because he thought if he could do Boo in now, then the Universe is doomed either way. Boo doesn't let people go willy nilly, Gotenks had to do SOMETHING in order to fly away fast enough, for long enough, to be out of sight and escape Boo.
	Hey Piccolo......are..are you a Yoshi?


+ Clearin	Apr 20 2012, 07:23 PM Post #27
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	He could have been knocked into a rock and Buu presumed he was dead (Like what Cell did to Gohan).



* Stark	Apr 20 2012, 07:26 PM Post #28
Rock Lobster Posts: 3,424 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,041 Joined: December 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Game Of Thrones What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga A Song Of Ice And Fire	Teen GohanZ Apr 20 2012, 07:23 PM He could have been knocked into a rock and Buu presumed he was dead (Like what Cell did to Gohan). Yep he's right. Boo couldn't sense ki at the time.



CRYPTIC	Apr 20 2012, 07:27 PM Post #29
Posts: 340 Group: Member Member #7,353 Joined: February 24, 2012	Teen GohanZ Apr 20 2012, 07:23 PM He could have been knocked into a rock and Buu presumed he was dead (Like what Cell did to Gohan). Case closed.



+ Clearin	Apr 20 2012, 07:35 PM Post #30
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Yeah I'm not saying it was a fact :P Just a possibility.



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