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Goku and Trunks vs King Cold and Cooler
Topic Started: Apr 19 2012, 01:02 AM (539 Views)
Professor Gohan
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Cold and Cooler come to earth to avenge Frieza. Goku uses IT to come and help Trunks fight those two when he sences those three arrive.
Cold can transform to whatever transformations he has left if that theory about him and his transormations are true. Cooler can transform to form 5
Who wins?
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Depends on how strong you think Cold is and how far he can transform. Some argue that in his second from he was <= Frieza. If he transformed twice would be a problem, or if you give him a 5th form. If you have him >Frieza in his 2nd form he could probably beat beat them. For Cooler it's also hard to do because he is a movie character and movies happen in an alternate universe. It's hard for me to say. I would say the saiyan. Trunks easily lifted Mecha Frieza's death ball and Goku was even stronger then him.
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If King Cold = Final Form Frieza in second form, Cold takes them both.
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I see Cold being between 50% and 80% of Freeza's power before being mechanized, so he'd be absolutely no help here with two Super Saiyans. Cooler would be at least on par with SSjin Trunks in my opinion, but Goku would keep the odds forever in their favor.
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Cooler is ineffectlive here. In 5th form I have him at ~ mecha Frieza, and we all know how that went.

I have Cold as unable to transform. If he can transform, though, he stomps hard.
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Why don't you think Cold has the ability to transform?
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If cold could transform why didn't he mention that he could do that and they should fear him instead of being a weasel trying to kill trunks with his own sword and begging for mercy.

btw great quote from dbz. "sooo.....you wanna see my sword huh?"
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If it is true that in Movie 5 is Base Goku (that was even with 4th form Cooler) > 100% Frieza, then this happens at the end of the 3 years of training, meaning that Goku and Trunks are stomped.
But its very unreal to think that Cooler is so far away from his father and brother.

Could it possibly be that...:

Movie 5 Base Goku: ~200.000.000
[Kaioken x2]: 400.000.000
[Kaioken x3]: 600.000.000
[SSjin]: ~2.000.000.000

4th form Cooler: ~185.000.000
5th form Cooler: ~800.000.000

It is stated anywhere what Kaioken x2-3-4-10-20 used Goku?
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Apr 19 2012, 04:21 AM
Why don't you think Cold has the ability to transform?
First off, we know that not all members of Frieza's species have access to the full range of transformations- Frieza can only go up to 4th form, whereas Cooler can go beyond that to the 5th.

Now, King Cold never transforms beyond the single form we see, even when he's pitted against opponents who grossly outclass his current form. Granted, he didn't have much time, but he never even attempts it, and also rushes headlong into battle with Trunks without transforming.

Based on that, I see no credible reason to believe he can transform; the fact that other members of his species can transform beyond 2nd form does not necessarily mean he can.

The only other piece of evidence is that Frieza likes to refer to his 4th form as his "true" form, but that could mean anything. Cooler also refers to it as a "transformed state".

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But its very unreal to think that Cooler is so far away from his father and brother.


Cooler hates Frieza, that much we know.
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Cooler should be a healthy amount stronger than his younger brother. He stated he would've killed Freeza if Goku hadn't, and didn't seem too fussed about how he'd have done it. He also wasn't completely outclassed by a stronger SSjin Goku.
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