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FPSSjin Goku (Boo Saga) vs FP PC
Topic Started: Apr 17 2012, 10:07 PM (716 Views)
Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs
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For the most part, I think we can agree that:

[SPC, SSjin 2 Kid Gohan] >>> Full Power Perfect Cell >> [Perfect Cell (at Gohan), MSSjin Kid Gohan] > [Perfect Cell (at Goku), MSSjin Goku (Cell Games)]

I think the gap between SPC/SSjin 2 Kid Gohan and FPPC is enough that FPSSjin Goku (Boo Saga) could be stronger than FP PC, but still weaker than SSjin 2 Gohan Cell Games. Who do you think wins?

Goku had seven years of training, with no physical body, meaning he could maintain more stress under training, and he also unlocked both SSjin 2 and SSjin 3. IMO, I feel that's enough training that FPSSjin Goku could win.
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So you want to play huh?

Vegeta (@ Buu) ≤ Kid Gohan IMO

Goku ( @ Buu ) =~130+% of Vegeta

FP PC >>SSJ Kid Gohan>= SSJ Vegeta

I don't think the difference between Goku and Vegeta(@ Buu) is greater than the difference between Kid Gohan(who is around vegeta @ buu) and FP PC.

Goku loses.

Even if you believe that Vegeta > Kid Gohan , I still don't think the gap between Gohan(@ Cell) and Goku (@ Buu) is more than the monstrous gap between SSJ Gohan (@ Cell) and FP PC.
Edited by xDanny 117, Apr 17 2012, 10:24 PM.
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-SSJ2 Gohan's hidden power boost is 2,since,when wounded,he had lost half of his chi and,with the boost,he took SPC.
-In Buu Saga,Goku says to Gohan "Remember the time you fought Cell and bring out all your power.You can't lose to anyone this way.",implying
that SSJ2 Kid Gohan plus hidden power is slightly stronger than SSJ2 Goku
-SSJ2 multiplier is 2

Therefore SSJ Goku(Buu Saga) is at SSJ2 Kid Gohan/SPC tier
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I can't see Son Goku taking this. He was hardly ahead of 9-year-old Gohan, who wasn't more powerful than Cell.
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Goku beasts this.

Goku was well ahead of Gohan by this time and Cell wasn't too far from Gohan's power.
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Im taking Goku. wasn't it stated that dabura was fp Pc level? Also wasn't it implyed that Goku and Vegeta felt like they can defeat him in ssj form? If this is true why is their even a debate whether ssj goku buu arc can defeat fp pc or not?
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CRYPTIC
Apr 18 2012, 02:16 AM
Im taking Goku. wasn't it stated that dabura was fp Pc level? Also wasn't it implyed that Goku and Vegeta felt like they can defeat him in ssj form? If this is true why is their even a debate whether ssj goku buu arc can defeat fp pc or not?
Goku and Vegeta definitely said they could beat Dabra in MSSjin form, so you get that right big boy. However, Goku said Dabra was on par with Cell. He never specified if it was FPPC, mmkay big boy? ;)
Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Apr 18 2012, 02:31 AM.
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Dabra = Cell that was under ground digging.
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Goku takes this. You do not even have to ask others because my answer is supreme.
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Give me a min...

[masters my dragon's balls]

Dabra = Cell in test tube.

that's indisputable evidence that Goku takes this. Cell in test tube has the purest Goku cell which would make him Supreme Cell, and obviously the cell that Goku mentions. Goku would have a pretty hard time with this Cell in particular because it's so cute. let it live. Goku takes this, and my dragon's balls have been mastered quite well, thank you. Now, I'm gonna go try for 4 whole stars. Coming, grandpa!
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I generally view it like this.

MSSJ Goku: 12,000,000,000
MSSJ Gohan: 15,000,000,000
Cell (Full Power): 28,000,000,000

MSSJ Goku (Boo Saga): 30,000,000,000

Basically Goku catches up, and then some. So Goku wins.
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Apr 18 2012, 12:46 PM
I generally view it like this.

MSSJ Goku: 12,000,000,000
MSSJ Gohan: 15,000,000,000
Cell (Full Power): 28,000,000,000

MSSJ Goku (Boo Saga): 30,000,000,000

Basically Goku catches up, and then some. So Goku wins.
I think if Goku was almost twice as powerful as his son, Piccolo wouldn't have had any trouble determining if Majin Vegeta was stronger than Gohan as well. Just my two cents on that.
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ObsessiveFanGuy
Apr 18 2012, 01:31 PM
DbzHybrid
Apr 18 2012, 12:46 PM
I generally view it like this.

MSSJ Goku: 12,000,000,000
MSSJ Gohan: 15,000,000,000
Cell (Full Power): 28,000,000,000

MSSJ Goku (Boo Saga): 30,000,000,000

Basically Goku catches up, and then some. So Goku wins.
I think if Goku was almost twice as powerful as his son, Piccolo wouldn't have had any trouble determining if Majin Vegeta was stronger than Gohan as well. Just my two cents on that.
Well i think Goku at least doubling his strength within 7 years of intense training is no stretch at all. Goku quadrupled his power in the Rosat within a year at least?

Piccolo hadn't sensed Gohan's SSJ2 Chi for a while now and even then i dont think anyone could grasp the power Gohan or Cell had except Goku, maybe Vegeta. Piccolo does note that Gohan/ Gohan's chi is weaker but i think thats just him more or less observing the fact that he was losing the struggle. It could possibly mean he could somewhat compare their powers which were relatively close.

The fact that he can't determine Vegeta's i believe is because he has that lack of experience with sensing such tremendous energy the likes of Gohan's. I have to agree though that Goku and Vegeta aren't in a league of their own but then they aren't just barely in front of Gohan either. It's something i haven't touched down on to heavily.

Mind sharing Piccolo's statement on Vegeta again?
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