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USSJ Gohan vs Full Power Perfect Cell; no speed or stamina restrictions
Topic Started: Apr 17 2012, 12:35 AM (793 Views)
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I have USSjin Trunks (Cell Games) stronger than FP PC, which seems unneccesary, but Post HTC (1st time) USSjin Future Trunks, Suppressed Perfect Cell admitted was much stronger than him, but could not win due to speed loss. With a second go, I have USSjin Gohan >> USSjin Trunks > FPPC. Sure, there's speed loss, but when you have such brute power, I think all Gohan has to do is power up a ki blast to kill Cell. The regeneration, of course, could be a problem, but I think USSjin Gohan wins in the end. Oh, and since you said no speed or stamina restrictions, that's even more over the top, so USSjin Gohan wins and wins hard
Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Apr 17 2012, 12:48 AM.
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I have MSSJ as a greater multiplier than USSJ, in which case Gohan gets stomped.
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I disagree Webz.
I think SSjinG3 has a higher multiplier, it's just such a dangerous form to use - for the user that is.

Cell stated that Trunks was > Suppressed Cell that 50% MSSjin Son Goku fought with. After the second time in the RoSaT, I have SSjinG3 Trunks being > than 80% Son Goku at least. So Gohan SSjinG3, without speed loss, would take out FP Perfect Cell imo.
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The reason I thought that was that in my view, FP Perfect Cell (Cell games) was > 50% Cell, and I had base Trunks at > Gohan at that point, so USSJ Trunks would have been stronger regardless.

But there is indeed a convincing case for USSJ > MSSJ power-wise.
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I'll try to give my points on this. No offence, no troll to any pal here.

1st the definition. USSJ is not in itself a transformation, but rather a stage of SSJ raised a notch higher. Its forced output of power, far higher than ASSJ, with the magnificent power it grants its user, sadly, its not without its setback, speed as well as stamina significantly. Thus, it reduces the efficiency of the form to the point that its simply useless to be used for prolonged time.

2nd, MSSJ or the way I call it, FPSSJ. Its the perfection of the SSJ state. It maintains/regulates the rage which is the access to the SSJ, thus gives birth to strategical fighting style, energy bein the precursor of power is conserved, and in a sense, power as well as stamina & speed balance.

Now, that bein said, I'd say FPSSJ is the better battle form. However, if u ask me, if its a Beam Struggle, USSJ takes this for givin everythin in One-Shot. If its more on one-one fight, MSSJ takes this.

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Apr 17 2012, 10:03 AM
I'll try to give my points on this. No offence, no troll to any pal here.

1st the definition. USSJ is not in itself a transformation, but rather a stage of SSJ raised a notch higher. Its forced output of power, far higher than ASSJ, with the magnificent power it grants its user, sadly, its not without its setback, speed as well as stamina significantly. Thus, it reduces the efficiency of the form to the point that its simply useless to be used for prolonged time.

2nd, MSSJ or the way I call it, FPSSJ. Its the perfection of the SSJ state. It maintains/regulates the rage which is the access to the SSJ, thus gives birth to strategical fighting style, energy bein the precursor of power is conserved, and in a sense, power as well as stamina & speed balance.

Now, that bein said, I'd say FPSSJ is the better battle form. However, if u ask me, if its a Beam Struggle, USSJ takes this for givin everythin in One-Shot. If its more on one-one fight, MSSJ takes this.

I would agree with the basics of this.

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Depends on whether Gohan had access to ASSJ/USSJ forms as a FPSSJ.If he had,he wins.
If he could go ASSJ/USSJ only by starting from his supressed SSJ state,he loses.
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Assuming he can boost even further to USSJ, then I have him stomping.

Though I have the saiya-jin gaining a 1,5X boost on his base (ASSJ multiplier) when he achieves MSSJ, not sure if the USSJ would do anything when you already master SSJ.
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