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| Dodoria runs the Saiya-jin gauntlet! | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 15 2012, 01:52 PM (802 Views) | |
| * Stark | Apr 15 2012, 01:52 PM Post #1 |
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Just before the fight with Nappa and Vegeta begins, Dodoria arrives on Earth and he has to conquer it. So he fights everyone, one vs one, without resting. It's a gauntlet after all. He has to fight: Chiaotzu Yajirobē Saibaiman Saibaiman Saibaiman Saibaiman Saibaiman Saibaiman Yamucha Kuririn Tenshinhan Son Gohan Piccolo Nappa Goku Vegeta. Everything is allowed! Dodoria has Zarbon on his side, giving him advices and stuff. After Dodoria dies, Zarbon enters in. Does the Saiya-jin saga team make it? |
   
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| MysticGotenks | Apr 15 2012, 02:01 PM Post #2 |
 
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Even as a gauntlet match, Dodoria would take them all out. He is taking everyone up to Son Goku in 2 shots or less. Remember that Vegeta managed to completely own someone only 2,000 weaker than himself, when you start getting into 4k gaps at the least, then it's a massacre. |
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| * Stark | Apr 15 2012, 02:03 PM Post #3 |
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Even Goku? Goku canonwise can Kaioken up to 3, would he still get stomped? |
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Apr 15 2012, 02:56 PM Post #4 |
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@Gotenks I find that fight pretty inconsistent IMO. Vegeta = 24, Dodora = 22. 24/22 ~ 1.09 Vegeta was only 109% of Dodoria's power. Going by that logic, SSjin Goku at 5 in comparison to full power Frieza at 4 should have stomped Frieza in a second. And anyways, I have Dodoria at 21 000 1 - Chaozu is weak sauce. I have him from 600 to 700. Dodoria sends him out of existence 2 - Yajirobe is nearing a PL of 1 000, Dodoria kills him without a sweat 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 - Kuririn, at a PL of ~1 500, killed several Saibamen in one blast, I don't think Dodoria would be tired after slaughtering them all 9 - Yamucha, even though I have him almost on par with a Saibaman, was hilariously stomped by one of them. I don't think he'd do anything against Dodoria. Another win for Dodoria without a sweat 10 - Kuririn has the Kienzan which is pretty useful. Power wise, he's from 1 000 min - 1 600 max, so he can't do much without Kienzan. I'd say Kuririn would throw a Kienzan, use the Solar Flare, but in the end, Dodoria would be far too strong and fast, so he'd kill Kuririn 11 - Tenshinhan is at about 1 800, and his Kikoho couldn't faze Nappa, I don't think it'd do anything against Dodoria. Dodoria kills him. 12 - Son Gohan is at 1 000 ish, his Masenko bringing him to 2 800, and since you did say anything is allowed, I'll let him go Oozaru. Oozaru Gohan would be at 10 000, just about 50% of Dodoria. Dodoria would kill him relatively easily. 13 - Piccolo, full power, is at 2 000 ish for me. Makankosappo brings him to a maximum of 6 650, not enough face Dodoria. Dodoria still takes, although some difficulty may arise in Piccolo's regeneration 14 - Nappa, full power, is at 7 500 - 7 800 for me. He's also kind of an unskilled and slightly dumb fighter. Dodoria plays around with Nappa and kills him 15 - Goku is where it starts to get interesting. Goku should be at 8 500, and KK x 4 Goku will be at 34 000. Although a lot of stress on his body, I think if he pulls of Kaioken x 4, he could last long enough to take Dodoria with a lot of difficulty 16 - Vegeta has the Gallick Gun, which I have as having a multiplier. His Gallick Gun should be at 63 000 for me, enough to take on even Monster Form Zarbon Goku and Vegeta are the only significant ones, and they kill Dodoria and Zarbon in the end due to Kaioken and technique amplification |
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| + Rebel X | Apr 15 2012, 03:18 PM Post #5 |
 
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You say anything is allowed then looking at base figure it's obvious that Dodoria slaughters them one by one and even if Zarbon doesn't step in Dodoria wins HOWEVER!!!!! Gohan, Goku and Vegeta would be the more significant ones to survive. I think Gohan was easily at 900-1200 maybe even more after he gets a multiplier from Masenko. so let's say a Max of 1800 AT MOST? Well then going Oozaru. Honestly Gohan has an element of surprise over Dodoria just by transforming at all. Dodoria knows to fear Saiyans at this state because it's such a huge boost. I think Gohan has a chance if he's coherent enough to act quick or rage. Goku can get up to and even over Dodorias PL with Kaoken at it's highest even if it doesn't sustain for a while. It's enough to make the moves to survive and win. Vegeta clearly would get beaten in base. I'm not sure how huge Galick Gun will have an effect on his PL but I think regardless Vegeta pawns with Oozaru transformation. Now that I think of it Nappa transforming to Oozaru will get him about 40,000PL so he'd survive too I believe |
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Apr 15 2012, 03:25 PM Post #6 |
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Completely forgot about Oozaru for Nappa and Vegeta. If they went Oozaru, they'd utterly godstomp Dodoria and Zarbon into oblivion |
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| Battle Power | Apr 15 2012, 03:32 PM Post #7 |
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Dodoria is not stated to be 22,000 in the manga or the show, all we know is that he's higher than 18,000 and lower than 24,000. Him being at 19,000 ~ 20,000 makes more sense since Vegeta would be 120% ~ 126% of him, which is enough for a stomp in my book. Anyway, since Zarbon is there to give him advices, he dies to either Goku (Kaioken X3) or Vegeta after being tired from fighting Goku. Oozaru wouldn't be much trouble on Nappa since Dodoria would easily outspeed him and cut the tail, listening to Zarbon's advice. If Zarbon enters he can pretty much kill tired Goku and even Oozaru Vegeta, all he needs to do is outspeed him and go for the tail, granted if he transforms (Monster) the saiya-jin probably won't even be able to see him. |
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Apr 15 2012, 03:37 PM Post #8 |
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Yeah, I use 21 000, which could even be seen as a bit high. And Oozaru Vegeta would be at about 180 000, more than enough to godstomp Zarbon. |
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| + Rebel X | Apr 15 2012, 03:58 PM Post #9 |
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I think all the Saiyans surviving with Oozaru or Goku with Kaioken is now obvious in the discussion. Question is does anyone else survive? How many explosions (Chiaotzu/Saibaiman) does it take to slow down and damage Dodoria alone? If they do slow him down, with the right speed, Krillin and Tien could easily give Dodoria a solar flare with a destructo disk type attack and it'd be a win. As for Piccolo, I would like to think his Beam cannon could give him the multiplier to survive but I don't think it would. I can't think of a scenario where Yamcha and Yajirbobe really get by. |
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| * Stark | Apr 15 2012, 04:16 PM Post #10 |
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Remember that Zarbon knows really a lot about the Saiya-jins, Oozaroo would do the trick against Dodoria but Zarbon could just blow the Moon with a blast. |
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| MysticGotenks | Apr 15 2012, 04:25 PM Post #11 |
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Well I think oozaru would be useless at this point, they would be too slow. Also, Zarbon can step in if Dodoria dies - if he does, it would only be if he loses a beam struggle with Vegeta's GG, after being too tired to put more power into it. |
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| InterWebZ | Apr 16 2012, 02:11 PM Post #12 |
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Vegeta's fake moon would still permit an Oozaru transformation that Zarbon could not destroy. He might be able to take out Vegeta's tail, but I wouldn't bet on it. Oozaru Vegeta, at ~ 180 000, is eqivalent to Ginyu-saga Goku, so he stomps Zarbon and Dodoria with ease. Oozaru Nappa I have at 40 000, still enough to win. KK x 4 Goku I have at approx 36 000, which is again enough to do it if he can sustain the KK long enough to win. KKx3 Goku is approx 27 000; stomps Dodoria but has trouble with Zarbon, could go either way. All other characters are stomped. Edited by InterWebZ, Apr 16 2012, 02:12 PM.
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Apr 16 2012, 02:13 PM Post #13 |
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I see you use the anime PL for Goku of over 9 000, but that was a mistranslation; in the original version, his PL was over 8 000. I use 8 500. |
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| MysticGotenks | Apr 16 2012, 02:42 PM Post #14 |
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Vegeta wouldn't be at 180k He was heavily weakened before transforming. I would put him at 160k at the most. I know it doesn't make a difference as he would still be much more powerful than Zarbon/Dodoria. Zarbon knows a lot about the saiyajin's, but he wouldn't know that cutting the tail would change them back to their original human form. It was made clear to son by accident. Otherwise no one would ever fear the saiyajin's going Oozaru/ |
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Apr 16 2012, 02:45 PM Post #15 |
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True, forgot about that, he had to waste a chunk of his power to create a fake moon |
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