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Supreme Kai Vs PuiPui
Topic Started: Apr 13 2012, 12:14 AM (3,719 Views)
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He sensed Gotenks' power okay. No one could get a good enough read on Boo.
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I meant he was wrong about the outcome, unlike Piccolo.
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Buu just had a lot of unknowns mostly because Shin was too incompetent to lay it all out for them. He had so many Kai's within him as well as the evil that was Kid Buu so he couldn't figure the guy out as he had an abyss of energy from other sources. Shin just didn't give them foot info at all that saga.

Shin should have
- Took out Spopovich and Yamu the second they made it to the ship so Gohans power was never given to Buus egg
- Told the others about Daburas spit before he actually had spit on both Piccolo and Krillin
- Told the saiyans, mostly Gohan and Old Kai about all the Buus he had absorbed before so Gohan, Gotenks, and Piccolo would not be absorbed
- Took the whole Z team to th damn sword to train if he thought they were all o weak they needed to jump everyone on the ship, as he wasn't even expecting Dabura to be a minion of Babadi
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Kaioshin probably thought Babidi had some powerful warriors but none on the level of Dabura, and that's when he lost his marbles.
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Apr 13 2012, 10:41 AM
I meant he was wrong about the outcome, unlike Piccolo.
Piccolo knew one thing Krillin often times overlooked. Powered up saiyan is cocky and makes fools of themselves.

Goku vs Frieza until he goes super walks up to him and starts fighting like he can win, Goku with a heart attack on going thinks so highly of his power that he fights an android over using IT to go home and grab the medicine, and he drags out the Fat and Kid Buu fights to give Vegeta and the boys a chance to the point he can't even use his full power himself. Vegeta gets curb stomped by 18, gets curbed stomped by Firezas final form, and by Fat Buu all the time while thinking his power was that much greater. Gohan toys with Cell despite the fate of the planet being at stake and him knowing Cell had Friezas DNA in him which meant he would rather die and take the planet with him than lose to a half breed monkey. Trunks pumps himself up like the Hulk and doesn't even get that he has lost speed. and we all know how Gotenks drags out the Super Buu battle just to put on a show for an audience that is just Piccolo and his own ego

It is a saiyan character flaw that comes with power. Gotenks both times he first formed in his base and SSJ has his swag turned up past max and can't see straight to even fight because his saiyan pride clouds his viewpoint. He maybe could have won or gave a better fight if he was sensible and not so arrogant.
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ObsessiveFanGuy
Apr 13 2012, 10:18 AM
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Apr 13 2012, 10:04 AM
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Apr 13 2012, 08:36 AM
I think Kaioshin loses. He said he could defeat Freeza in 1 punch, I don't have Pocus that much stronger than Freeza - Although he underestimated the Saiyajin power, he must have known that they should be much stronger than Freeza, as they did not seem fazed that Kaio could defeat Freeza easily.

He wouldn't have worried if he could have Pocus - Kaioshin isn't one to play around, he constantly whined about hurrying up and stopping Boo being hatched as the main focus. If he could have defeated Pocus he would have gone in and done it himself, to save time and avoid any energy being given to Boo.
Krillin and Piccolo weren't phased. In fact Pui Pui didn't even scare Krillin off, Dabura did, which makes me wonder even further why you would have to jump him. We all know that Krillin can read power better than most the z team (he saw Gohans potential on Namek, noticed Vegetas increase post Recoome, and knew Trunks was hiding his power) so if he wasn't shaking at the sight of him like he did with Dabura, he can't be that strong. Stronger than Fireza sure, but probably someone Krillin or Tien can keep up with in the manga and squash in the anime (Yamcha would too in the anime) so Shin being afraid of getting damaged in a 1 on 1 setting makes me think he is around the level of the ssjs before the ROSAT
Krillin's Ki sensing seems to be plot-based. He couldn't sense Gotenks' power correctly apparently.
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It could also be the fact that Kuririn was just scared of Dabra, not Pocus because Dabra was a much larger threat. But I agree I don't have Pocus very strong at all, that being said, I think Kaioshin thinks too high of himself and he is a weakling also. Well, at this point in the series anyway.
Hey Piccolo......are..are you a Yoshi?
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Apr 13 2012, 09:10 AM
MysticGotenks
Apr 13 2012, 08:36 AM
I think Kaioshin loses. He said he could defeat Freeza in 1 punch, I don't have Pocus that much stronger than Freeza - Although he underestimated the Saiyajin power, he must have known that they should be much stronger than Freeza, as they did not seem fazed that Kaio could defeat Freeza easily.

He wouldn't have worried if he could have Pocus - Kaioshin isn't one to play around, he constantly whined about hurrying up and stopping Boo being hatched as the main focus. If he could have defeated Pocus he would have gone in and done it himself, to save time and avoid any energy being given to Boo.
He knew Vegeta was stronger than Freeza by quite a lot since he read his mind right after making that statement, yet he feared for Vegeta's safety against Pocus.
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If he didn't want Buu hatched wouldn't he destroy the container with Gohans ssj2 power right away, as in as soon as they landed so it couldn't be fed to Buu?

It goes back to he wasn't expecting a Dabura level opponent which is Cell level. That to me means he sensed Gohan when he powered up versus Cell as a MSSJ years ago to think he was stronger than Vegeta or Goku. So, he should have had faith that they could have all rushed the ship as Pui Phi seemed to be what he expected to be there
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He would destroy pui pui. He is no match. Never use fear as an indication of ones power. And from what I remember, the supreme kai wanted everyone to fight together to avoid sending any energy to the ship. And he automatically assumes anyone controlled by babidi is super powerful, which isn't the case. But dabura was pretty strong. Pui pui < base saiyans. Supreme kai > base saiyans.
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