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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 31 2012, 06:48 AM (1,980 Views) | |
| Plush | Mar 31 2012, 06:48 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/30/2723783/world-is-watching-protests-over.html http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-case-shooter-george-zimmerman-appears-uninjured-police-video-night-shooting-article-1.1052433 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin Basically, Trayvon Martin, a 17 year old, was shot and killed by 28 year old George Zimmerman. I'm going to go right out and say that I'm completely biased towards Trayvon and find there is no way to justify what Gerorge Zimmerman did. He's quite obviously a creepy, paranoid, megalomaniac bastard anyway you look at it. Trayvon was walking home from the store and George Zimmerman spotted him, proceeded to call the police for whatever reason, and started stalking him. What I gathered, Trayvon eventually approached him and some kind of fight broke out and ended with Trayvon shot to death. Gerorge Zimmerman claims it was self-defense. Well, even it that IS the case, it's still screwed up. First off, when you start getting your ***** beat, especially is you instigate it like he did by stalking him, you take it like a man or fight back, not lay on the ground screaming for help and then pulling a gun. That's the most absolutely stank-ass-pussy thing you could possibly do. You shot somebody if they've broken into your house or if they are trying to seriously harm you or someone close to you, not when you're getting your ***** kicked for being a creepy bastard. He deserved it, and I really hope he did get his ass-whooped. And, well, if he just shot him for absoluetly no reason at all, for just walking down the street, the he deserves to be put away obviously. Anyway I see it, no matter what happened, he deserves prison time. I really don't think there's any other solution. Edited by Plush, Mar 31 2012, 06:54 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Mar 31 2012, 07:14 AM Post #2 |
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I don't think Zimmerman should be free to go either. He should be jailed, or at least put on probation with some kind of mental care. It seems that he made a faulty assumption and a kid's life was lost because of it. Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Mar 31 2012, 07:28 AM Post #3 |
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I dislike the blatant lies the most. Guy with broken nose has no blood at all to show at the scene? No pics from the police of such injuries? 170-lbs kid scares a 240-lbs man-with-gun? And then you have people whom claim to be his best friend (whom conveniently has brown skin) and his father push this mess. Skittles and *****ing ice tea, and some lunatic self-appointed neighborhood watch stalking people whilst carrying a gun... recipe for disaster. |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 31 2012, 07:32 AM Post #4 |
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Mentally incompetent people like that shouldn't be allowed to "watch" the neighborhood, especially while carrying. That really is just asking for a situation like this. |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | Mar 31 2012, 08:40 AM Post #5 |
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Zimmerman should go to court for murder. Simple as. Hassled a kid for his skin colour, even after the cops told him to wait for them to turn up. If he doesnt go to prison for a long time I expect him to be shot dead soon enough. That's not saying it should happen, but theres a good chance it'll happen. Personally though if this happened to a close friend or relative of mine and they didn't get punished by the courts? Can't say I wouldn't try to get them back. |
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| NavonWise | Mar 31 2012, 10:27 PM Post #6 |
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Lol self defense, like biz said, a skinny ***** kid beats the crap out of a fat *****? And I don't know why they would pay attention to his father, who is obviously going to protect his son
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To be honest, there wouldnt be anything wrong with giving the guy a chance to defend WHY he got into an altercation with trayvon in the first place, but the fact he WAS carrying a gun, and stalked the boy in his truck for quite a ways before stopping him and calling him out? Its all very suspicious. For starters, nevermind his face, what about his CLOTHES? not one drop of blood on his PERFECT clothes. Why is he so well groomed? did the police let him go shower and change before taking him to the station for questioning? that would be the only explanation unless the videos a fake. Meaning they taped it afterwards. He wasnt processed by a csu for anything, he wasnt drug tested, he was questioned and released. HUH? isnt this a possible murder investigation? why isnt he being held unti la hearing? Why were no Standard operating procedures made since the inception of this case? Because it means they will have to repeal their law due to the extreme left wingists take a swing at gun control. They would rather the boy died in vain and demonized as a "deserving" thug youth, than admit they just want to keep their guns. For most trolls on the internet? it IS racial. They have made sure to see it that way. Whether its racially motivated or not, that idiot shot someone unarmed over a fight HE started. and thats NOT conjecture, thats the TRUTH. |
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| CRYPTIC | Apr 1 2012, 03:29 PM Post #8 |
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You guys need to see things from two sides of the spectrum and view this objectively. Theirs 2 side of the story knowing who started the altercation is pure speculation. The cops believe the screams on the telephone matched Zimmermans voice but we never really will know untill it's properly dissected by voice experts. Some Facts: Certain parts of the media have been trying to paint zimmerman in a negative light by giving you misleading information. He doesn't weight 250 pounds he actually weighs 170 pounds. The picture most widely used for zimmerman which is plastered on every article in the media shows him at his darkest moment while in contrast trayvons picture is of him when he was 13. Obviously the medias trying to create racial tension for profit. Trayvon allegedly assaulted a bus driver was suspended for being in possesion of marijuana residue and truancy and was caught with stolen jewlery and burglary equipment. Zimmerman also had his issues with the law. He been arrested for resisting arrest from an officer and assaulting one I think, and hes been caught up in domestic disputes I think he probably hit his wife or something. So clearly each individual is no saint. I am not here choosing sides just bringing the facts to light. In my opinion whoever started the altercation was the one in the wrong. It just sickens me how the media is profiting of this and how obnoxiously stupid some of these protesters and trayvon activists are acting. Spike lee tried tweeted his home address which was later discovered that it was the home of an old couple. He put two innocent people in danger over his agenda and the Black panthers putting a bounty on this guy? How absurd. Edited by CRYPTIC, Apr 1 2012, 03:31 PM.
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Apr 1 2012, 04:46 PM Post #9 |
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Why do we need to see things from 2 sides? It has already been said that Zimmerman claimed to have a broken nose that didn't bleed, claimed to shoot a guy on top of him and didn't have blood all over him; the guy he shot had already been check for his possession and was found to have candy and tea; the dead guy's autopsy showed no bruising of the fists of which supposedly repeatedly bashed into the claimer Zimmerman. &uarr The paragraph above doesn't mention race in the slightly, but it probably should. I don't know whether to hope that you are trolling, or aren't trolling. And I really hope that you're not a dupe account. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120324193907AAABaWI |
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| CRYPTIC | Apr 1 2012, 05:56 PM Post #10 |
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Lol you lost all credibility when you used yahoo answers and wikipedia as a source. Edited by CRYPTIC, Apr 1 2012, 05:57 PM.
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why do people keep including what trayvon did before being shot by some strange man? what in trayvons life justifies his being killed by some weirdo? it doesnt matter WHo it is, and saying we arent seeing from the other side means nothing. George zimmerman gave his statement and admitted to killing trayvon, but all evidence to substantiate his claim doesnt exist, and he admitted to carrying and shooting a gun at aomeone NOT with a similar weapon, you dont GET to shoot people because you are scared, you get to shoot them when they threaten your life and health, attacking you in the street. THATS, what stand your ground means, it means not to be taken like a punk and get robbed, it DOESNT mean have open season on shooting people and then be able to lie and say it was self defense. Cause you can make the kid look bad when in fact the only altercation started was the one YOU incited!! You have already fallen for it, by pretending this guy even had a reason for FOLLOWING tryavon, you can make up all the excuses you need, like oh well he smoked weed and had a screwdriver in his backpack, so then he MUST be a thief and drug dealer. HUH? for starters he was caught smoking weed at school so he was suspended. Oh well, people get suspended for less. The screwdriver incident wasnt investigated because it obviously DIDNT lead to anything. So now people are trying to paint trayvon wrong because they know this case will go away if it SEEMS justified to shoot someone who is kicking your butt over you threatening them,following them, calling them names and then pulling a gun on them. ALL of which to zimmerman either admitted to or was caught doing due to overwhelming phone evidence of the boys girlfriend on the phone AND the 911 dispatcher. what did you THINK would happen? Do you REALLY think there was a reason george followed this guy? alot of people have now made up the fact there were burglaries and tried to implicate trayvon, the trut his that the area was ridden with burglaries, george was on patrol to prevent this in his neighborhood. Thats fine. whats NOT fine is him being a police assaulting felon, who didnt get charged with felony as the charges were dropped, unless you have JUICE there is NO way you are beating that charge. so its obvious georges attitude has gotten him in trouble MORE than once, and this fool is able to carry a gun? and whats up with the nameless black guy who popped out of nowhere and no face to the no name as georges LONG TIME FRIEND??? cut that out. i dont use wiki answers, im actually on the site thread discussing this on the news forum this story is on. everything i have said is public knowledge. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Apr 1 2012, 06:02 PM.
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Apr 1 2012, 06:21 PM Post #12 |
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but i'm not trying to debate CRYPTIC. Even people on yahoo answers knows the *****. Don't troll. |
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| CRYPTIC | Apr 1 2012, 06:29 PM Post #13 |
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Ok because I am not a trayvon extremist I am suddenly on Zimmermans side and trying to justify his death? Zimmermans statement does have evidence all his injuries were noted in the police report and their are two eye witness that state that Zimmerman was on the ground getting beat to a pulp. Unless you believe the cops are trying to cover everything up and that the whole judicial system is depraved and racist. Btw those videos have no *****ing validity, so stop referencing them. In those same videos you keep bringing up Zimmerman appears a lot slimmer as opposed to his mug shot that is plastered all over the *****ing tabloids. If you're being beaten and afraid for your life you can stand your ground. "A stand-your-ground law states that a person may use deadly force in self-defense when there is reasonable belief of a threat, without an obligation to retreat first." If Zimmerman was infact the one screaming for help and trayvon didn't stop hitting him than he had reasonable belief that his life was in danger because he couldn't retreat and didn't know whether Trayvon would stop hitting him or not. Plus some believe they were fighting for control of the gun therefore endangering zimmermans life even more. But if ZImmerman approached Trayvon started beating him to pulp(which theirs no evidence of) and was the one screaming for help and ZImmerman just shot him than Zimmermans obviously guilty of murder. But if he was going to kill Trayvon in cold blood why the ***** would he call the cops to meet him? Something unexpected obviously occured that night therefore the murder wasn't premeditated and it wasn't over a racial dispute. Becuse if you wanted to murder someone in cold blood you wouldn't call the cops to come meet up with you before hand, its to *****ing risky. At most this guy you should get involuntary manslaughter. Conclusively an innocent man shouldn't be thrown to jail if not proven guilty, imagine if this was your father or brother or something. Edited by CRYPTIC, Apr 1 2012, 06:49 PM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Apr 1 2012, 06:29 PM Post #14 |
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Nothing, NOTHING, justifies killing a person. Claims of 'Self-Defence' are total ****, if he did indeed call the police and proceed to follow the victim then, if anything, the victim's actions were self-defence. If the defendant was carrying a gun, he's the one at fault. He was probably paranoid to a major degree. Honestly? I find it hard to care about this case. Not because I think it wasn't bad, it was horrendous, but the simple fact of it is that stuff like this happens all the time. Why does this case get news time when other murders/serious attacks don't? I'm sort of desensitised to stuff like this now, it's tragic, yes, but it's over dramatised imo. Everything points to him stalking and subsequently killing the person and, self-defence (pfft) or not, he should still be punished to the full extent by the law. |
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| CRYPTIC | Apr 1 2012, 06:30 PM Post #15 |
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Lol you know how *****ing stupid it is to call someone a troll because they disagree with you? |
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