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Mecha Frieza vs SSJ Goku (Frieza saga)
Topic Started: Mar 26 2012, 11:35 PM (1,303 Views)
SuperSaiyan1993
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Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans

This has probably been done before, not sure. Anyway, although Mecha Frieza>100% Frieza, I don't think it's enough of an increase to take down the Super Saiyan. IMO, Goku takes this
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He brought King Cold with him to make sure he didn't get his newly improved behind kicked. That says it all to me as he didn't even know if goku had gotten stronger
Edited by Kblo247, Mar 27 2012, 12:20 AM.
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I have him barely stronger than SSJ Goku (Namek), so Goku might take it by skill & techniques.
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SSj Goku: 150.000.000
Mecha Frieza [full power]: 170.000.000
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I just don't get bringing Cold with him unless they were going to double team Goku. I mean do you think Kold was to counter Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, and Krillin teaming up with Goku?
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I can see Goku winning by a scratch, if only from the rage of Frieza having killed everyone on Earth, as he was planning to before Trunks showed up.
Goku: Martial Arts Master
Significant Techniques: Kamehameha Wave, Super Saiyan, Spirit Bomb, and the always present, yet completely filler, Super Kaio-Ken.
Frieza: Would definately underestimate Goku, as he did Trunks, just to feel as though he was the strongest again.
Significant Techniques: Death Beam, Death Ball, Nova Strike, and his Destructo Disks.

Keep in mind, however, that in both the anime and manga, Frieza was able to knock out; or kill, depending on the dub; Goku, who's power level was at least 20 Million higher than his. If Goku, at 150 Million, fought Mecha Frieza at 160- 175 million, he could probably pull off a similar move, using a well placed Full Power Kamehameha to kill Frieza.

So, Frieza and Goku would have a close fight. Goku has a higher capability fighting, and Frieza tends to underestimate his enemies (Id even agree with the scene in Fusion Reborn where Frieza claimed he could beat a now adult Gohan). Even without blowing up the planet or going with genocide of Earth's life, Frieza would probably lose because of his own pride and Goku's skills.
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Mar 27 2012, 04:32 AM
I can see Goku winning by a scratch, if only from the rage of Frieza having killed everyone on Earth, as he was planning to before Trunks showed up.
Goku: Martial Arts Master
Significant Techniques: Kamehameha Wave, Super Saiyan, Spirit Bomb, and the always present, yet completely filler, Super Kaio-Ken.
Frieza: Would definately underestimate Goku, as he did Trunks, just to feel as though he was the strongest again.
Significant Techniques: Death Beam, Death Ball, Nova Strike, and his Destructo Disks.

Keep in mind, however, that in both the anime and manga, Frieza was able to knock out; or kill, depending on the dub; Goku, who's power level was at least 20 Million higher than his. If Goku, at 150 Million, fought Mecha Frieza at 160- 175 million, he could probably pull off a similar move, using a well placed Full Power Kamehameha to kill Frieza.

So, Frieza and Goku would have a close fight. Goku has a higher capability fighting, and Frieza tends to underestimate his enemies (Id even agree with the scene in Fusion Reborn where Frieza claimed he could beat a now adult Gohan). Even without blowing up the planet or going with genocide of Earth's life, Frieza would probably lose because of his own pride and Goku's skills.
Oopsy, I had a brain fart. I meant that Frieza was hugely underestimating Gohan at that time, in Fusion Reborn.
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Mar 27 2012, 02:59 AM
I just don't get bringing Cold with him unless they were going to double team Goku. I mean do you think Kold was to counter Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, and Krillin teaming up with Goku?
Cold was only there in case Freeza did overestimate himself and couldn't do it alone. Freeza wasn't entirely sure he could do it, but he was at least somewhat confident in his ability, so he should still be at least equal to Son's power on Namek (I personally believe he's stronger).
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I'm damn serious

I think Goku still wins,Cold is small fry so he wouldnt be able to do nothing.
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Mar 27 2012, 10:21 PM
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Mar 27 2012, 02:59 AM
I just don't get bringing Cold with him unless they were going to double team Goku. I mean do you think Kold was to counter Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, and Krillin teaming up with Goku?
Cold was only there in case Freeza did overestimate himself and couldn't do it alone. Freeza wasn't entirely sure he could do it, but he was at least somewhat confident in his ability, so he should still be at least equal to Son's power on Namek (I personally believe he's stronger).
Frieza did not know if Goku had gotten stronger.

He did however know that Krillin, Piccolo, Gohan, and Vegeta were alive on earth or could make a safe assumption they were after Goku told him the wish. He would have to expect those 4 would be ready to step up for a round 2.

IMO Cold had to at least be there to offset them at worst and at best tag team Goku. Vegeta would have gotten stronger, Piccolo gave the form Cold was in trouble when Frieza used it, Gohan bested his third form, and Krillin was no slouch as he was stronger than the Ginyu force as a whole. cold had to be an insurance policy to stop them from helping Goku or at least break the battle up in 3 different waves.

Wave 1 Goku v Fireza
Wave 2 Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin vs King Cold
Wave 3 Troops vs anyone else or possibly the native namekians if they stayed on earth

It wasn't like he knew about Yamcha and Tien or Chiotzu. He knew the namekians were sent there as well but all of them were low level thousands aside from Nail who he knew merged with Piccolo.

I just don't see any need for Cold or troops unless if he thought his forces would be overwhelmed by the fivesome of Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Krillin, and Piccolo. But the problem is he knew Goku wasn't on earth yet so at best his plan had to be this in my mind.

Troops seek out Gohan, Krillin, Vegeta, and Piccolo only to be killed because the troops had no chance in hell. They see the spikes in power with scouters and assault the group. Then they tag team Goku

Edited by Kblo247, Mar 27 2012, 11:03 PM.
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