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Android 18 Vs SSjin Vegeta (Android saga)
Topic Started: Mar 24 2012, 06:35 PM (850 Views)
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no stamina issue for 18 , i heard that many here thinks that Vegeta was equal to 18 power level it's only cuz of the stamina issue he was on a disavantage ?? but IMO 18 was only toying with him cuz she take Vegeta's huge charged blast without any problem and also 17 states that 18 won't be able to take all the Z Senshi by herself .
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SSJ Vegeta (pre HTC)- The Android stomps, stamina not an issue
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Things supporting 18 is a little stronger than/par to Vegeta:
-17 stating 18 would have trouble agaisnt everyone.
-Trunks saying Vegeta was fighting on part with her and Piccolo semi-agreeing by saying he's being pushed back because of the stamina thing, this was after she got serious.
-17 saying no one rivals him
-It seems odd that Dr Gero would make the next android only slightly weaker than the last considering the first one's main problem was being too strong that it wouldn't obey him, you'd think he'd tone it down much more.
-17 calls Vegeta incredible
-18 also compliments him

Things supporting 18 being much higher than Vegeta and closer to 17:
-After 18 says he's good, she then says he's nothing special...
-Pretty much everyone groups them together instead of saying just #17 is amazingly strong
-#16 stating Kamiccolo rivals "the two of them", although 17's line about no one rivaling him comes right after.
-When Cell states that Piccolo is using all his Ki the only people he'd be fighting with that much Ki are "#17 and #18", whether he meant he had to be fighting one of them or both of them together probably plays an important role in that though

Meh.
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Well, Vegeta was incredible. They thought he'd be much weaker and easier to dispose of. He just wasn't anything special when they took him seriously IMO. #17's comment that she wouldn't be able to take them all on was probably just a precaution because if Vegeta was so much stronger than their data had predicted, then the rest of them probably were as well.
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Maybe, but it's never really proven since #17 is the one to attack Trunks and Piccolo and by that point Vegeta was knocked out.

I think #18 is much stronger but it's still hard to ignore all the other things. I think she's much stronger than Vegeta but #17 could still beat her rather easily...I guess.
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Mar 24 2012, 06:49 PM
Things supporting 18 is a little stronger than/par to Vegeta:
-17 stating 18 would have trouble agaisnt everyone.
-Trunks saying Vegeta was fighting on part with her and Piccolo semi-agreeing by saying he's being pushed back because of the stamina thing, this was after she got serious.
-17 saying no one rivals him
-It seems odd that Dr Gero would make the next android only slightly weaker than the last considering the first one's main problem was being too strong that it wouldn't obey him, you'd think he'd tone it down much more.
-17 calls Vegeta incredible
-18 also compliments him

Things supporting 18 being much higher than Vegeta and closer to 17:
-After 18 says he's good, she then says he's nothing special...
-Pretty much everyone groups them together instead of saying just #17 is amazingly strong
-#16 stating Kamiccolo rivals "the two of them", although 17's line about no one rivaling him comes right after.
-When Cell states that Piccolo is using all his Ki the only people he'd be fighting with that much Ki are "#17 and #18", whether he meant he had to be fighting one of them or both of them together probably plays an important role in that though

Meh.
- OFG basically disproved the first one. Hell, Android 17 doesn't think much of Android 16 at this point and suggests that he'd be able to take on all of them at the same time.

- Ok, you've got a point there, but I'll keep going.

- That's more of Android 17 stating that nobody else rivals him.

- That doesn't make much sense at all.

- Actually, 18 considers Vegeta a piece of trash that she can rub all over her shoes after stepping on dog ****. She actually wonders if Goku > Vegeta and Vegeta states he's the strongest out of the bunch and she's very disappointed.
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- OFG basically disproved the first one. Hell, Android 17 doesn't think much of Android 16 at this point and suggests that he'd be able to take on all of them at the same time.

He didn't really disprove it. I'm not saying it's not right, heck it's what I've been believing since I saw that line, but it's still just a theory. The only thing that could have truly disproved it was if 18 did take them all on at once.

And 17 only asked 16 to fight Vegeta right? To see how strong he was or something?

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- That's more of Android 17 stating that nobody else rivals him.

Actually, while he does say he's the strongest a few times, only once does he ever say no one rivals him, and it's never really contradicted unless you count 16's line...but then that can't be true if it's contradicted either so...uh... yeah.. One of them is wrong.

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- That doesn't make much sense at all.

What I said? It seems simple enough:
1. Make an android
2. It's too powerful so it doesn't obey you
3. Make next android weaker in order to prevent this happening again

Nothing more to it really.

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- Actually, 18 considers Vegeta a piece of trash that she can rub all over her shoes after stepping on dog ****. She actually wonders if Goku > Vegeta and Vegeta states he's the strongest out of the bunch and she's very disappointed.

17 says he's incredible and 18 says that he's both good and nothing special, right after each other. I already said that she called him worthless though in the 2nd part of my comment.
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- OFG basically disproved the first one. Hell, Android 17 doesn't think much of Android 16 at this point and suggests that he'd be able to take on all of them at the same time.

He didn't really disprove it. I'm not saying it's not right, heck it's what I've been believing since I saw that line, but it's still just a theory. The only thing that could have truly disproved it was if 18 did take them all on at once.

And 17 only asked 16 to fight Vegeta right? To see how strong he was or something?

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- That's more of Android 17 stating that nobody else rivals him.

Actually, while he does say he's the strongest a few times, only once does he ever say no one rivals him, and it's never really contradicted unless you count 16's line...but then that can't be true if it's contradicted either so...uh... yeah.. One of them is wrong.

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- That doesn't make much sense at all.

What I said? It seems simple enough:
1. Make an android
2. It's too powerful so it doesn't obey you
3. Make next android weaker in order to prevent this happening again

Nothing more to it really.

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- Actually, 18 considers Vegeta a piece of trash that she can rub all over her shoes after stepping on dog ****. She actually wonders if Goku > Vegeta and Vegeta states he's the strongest out of the bunch and she's very disappointed.

17 says he's incredible and 18 says that he's both good and nothing special, right after each other. I already said that she called him worthless though in the 2nd part of my comment.
- Android 18 doesn't seem worried about Android 16 and Android 17 suggests Android 16 should fight all of them. This really is a tough situation.

- Well, Android 16 says Kamiccolo rivals Android 17 and 18 and like you said, Cell states the only person Kamiccolo would be fighting is Androids 17 and 18.

- Why not have Android 16 as the person who prevents both androids from disobeying him?

- So basically, that statement was contradicted ...
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