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Minato Sage Mode.
Topic Started: Mar 23 2012, 09:24 PM (1,447 Views)
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Got to thinking.

Why wouldn't Minato have been taught Sage Mode?
He was supposedly an exceptionally gifted shinobi and was trained by Jiraiya who may not have completed the training himself but he certainly knew about it and had done so for years.

He was already brilliant, but not unbeatable.
And would have been affiliated with the toads seeing as he could summon them, plus he must have met Fukasuku because he new who he was.

So why wouldn't Minato have been taught it? If Naruto could learn it surely Minato could have had an unmastered version like Jiraiya's by the time he was Hokage(obviously wouldn't have the time as Hokage)
Maybe he wasn't as gifted as people make him out to be.

Sure he was making it but it took 3 years for the Rasengan and he couldn't put his elemental nature in to it, despite knowing exactly how the technique works having made it himself.

His teleporting could be and probably was passed down through his family not an original technique.

So maybe gifted in sealing and summoning but nothing else.

If he'd had that vs the Kyuubi him and Kushina need not have died :(


So what are your thoughts do you think he just couldn't do it or that Kishi just never considered it or hadn't even thought of it until later on?
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Mar 23 2012, 09:24 PM
Got to thinking.

Why wouldn't Minato have been taught Sage Mode?
He was supposedly an exceptionally gifted shinobi and was trained by Jiraiya who may not have completed the training himself but he certainly knew about it and had done so for years.

He was already brilliant, but not unbeatable.
And would have been affiliated with the toads seeing as he could summon them, plus he must have met Fukasuku because he new who he was.

So why wouldn't Minato have been taught it? If Naruto could learn it surely Minato could have had an unmastered version like Jiraiya's by the time he was Hokage(obviously wouldn't have the time as Hokage)
Maybe he wasn't as gifted as people make him out to be.

Sure he was making it but it took 3 years for the Rasengan and he couldn't put his elemental nature in to it, despite knowing exactly how the technique works having made it himself.

His teleporting could be and probably was passed down through his family not an original technique.

So maybe gifted in sealing and summoning but nothing else.

If he'd had that vs the Kyuubi him and Kushina need not have died :(


So what are your thoughts do you think he just couldn't do it or that Kishi just never considered it or hadn't even thought of it until later on?
I don't think Kishimoto-sama considered it to be honest. He could've made Minato have it during his fight with Kyuubi that was shown later on in the manga, but it would just go against everything we knew about the event and Minato. By the time Kishimoto-sama thought of Sage Mode, Minato was already solidified as a character, so adding Sage Mode would mess with that. But I wish he did learn it.

Regarding the Hiraishin, I think he did invent it. He was heralded as ''The Yellow Flash'' and nobody else presumably was referred to as such, so he must've been the first person to use the technique.
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Or maybe he was so terrible at it that he was the first person to be seen using it ;)


It's too late now but Kishi could have done it later in the manga when Kushina is telling Naruto about what happened.
I'd like that better actually.

Just have him on a hill instead of Bunta because it's pretty silly to imagine Bunta holding off the Kyuubi for any amount of time really. Shukaku was too much for him even when he wasn't at full strength Kurama would have decimated Bunta, logically.


Mintao would look crazy cool with the perfected SM eyes.

Ah...we can only dream eh.

Anyway how easy do you think it would have been for Minato to learn SM?
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You are obssessed with sage mode....lol.

I hihgly doubt it, why was Nagato not taught it? was he not a child of prophecy? Why not Yahiko?

Naruto was who Jiraiya decided would be the true child of prophecy, and Naruto needed something to ake him unique besides rasengan, which he eventually lost uniqueness for, and shadow clones.

Minato had teleporting, his speed and being hokage to make hime unique, why over-love him and make him a terrible character with too many powerups?

Jiraiya had a fire-infused rasengan and imperfect sage mode, and his hair abilities.

Let Naruto, and Naruto alone have the perfected toad sage mode, and nobody else, because Kabuto is unique now because of the dragon sage mode, yet if Sasuke copies it like everyone wants him to it ruins a good character.

Not that he can, anyway.

I say just leave it in imagination, I doubt he would have thought to do it anyway, Naruto is the main character and the story is about the previous generation being beaten by the current, why make Naruto look like nothing compared to his father if thats the case?

To put it simply, dont question an authors initiative.
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Well with his own power he shouldn't equal his father at all because he's only 16 wouldn't make sense for him to be stronger without Kurama.

Sage Mode or the Sage Modes are awesome, nuff said lol.


Minato's just not that strong a character physically I feel he needs something else.

Jiraiya only trained the orphans enough for them to be able to defend themselves he never wanted them to be able to take over the world so he wouldn't be wanting them to be the most powerful beings ever instead to follow their own paths.

Off topic here but what happened to the Rinnegan being able to copy and master any jutsu it sees? Nothing to do with that has been seen yet lol all the abilities Nagato showed seem to be the standard going by Madara's.
Surely Nagato could have learnt how to at least take nature energy in and experiment with how much is needed.

Then he'd really be a god.
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Minaro probably didn't have a large enough chakra pool to use it. When Naruto was learning, he was told that you have to balance sage chakra with your own, meaning you need a large chakra pool for it to be of any use.

I think that's why Minato is thought of so highly. He didn't have any kekkei genkai or lots of chakra, yet he made two incredibly useful techniques (Hirashin and Rasengan) which made him powerful, not to mention his seals. He may not seem like much when compared to people with eyehax, but his sheer speed, intelligence and strength (the Rasengan he used against Tobi is bigger than any normal Rasengan Naruto has managed) makes him one of the strongest characters in the series.
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Plus Minato's rasengan explodes like Naruto's rasenshuriken, Naruto's regular or large rasengan just explode into an air wave, which si a testament to Minato's mastery of the jutsu.
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Rasengan explodes anyway just not to the same effect as it with wind element.

SM is all about mixing your chara with nature energy.

If his chakra pool is crap he would just need a crap amount of nature energy to use SM but it would still be pretty useful for his strength.
Anyone with a decent defense would be way too hard for him to beat.

So SM would have been helpful in dire situations.


Lately I just feel Minato doesn't deserve all the praise he gets for being a genius.
He's good yeah but the only thing that really suggests him being smart is his nowledge of sealing techniques but he'd have had to learn them for Kushina anyway.

Without them he's got Rasengan and Hirashin and that's basically it.
Effective with them but it's not like it makes him a master of everything.

I'd say his Rasengan is just perfected Naruto's would probably look the same if he perfected it properly.
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Then You are betraying Your favorite character and dont have any idea about balancing uniqueness :3

If Minato had a sage mode it could only possibly be toad, which would ruin the uniqueness of Naruto's.

And he wouldnt be able to perfect it anyway, so that would ruin Jiraiya aswell as Minato.

Just leave him as he is, he could pretty much take Kurama, leave him be.
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How would sage mode even help minato. Sage mode would probably just make his rasengan bigger but right now it's already big enough to kill basically anyone.

I don't see sage mode helping minato much.
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