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How I see it
Topic Started: Feb 29 2012, 10:02 AM (4,204 Views)
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Balthazor
Feb 29 2012, 10:18 AM
Are we allowed to just post are opinions on things then?

I'm gonna post some damn right factual ***** then

Spopovitch>>>>>>>>>>>infinate gap>>>>>>> SSJ4 Vegito>>>>>SSJ Vegito>Base Vegito>=Buuhan>Base Gokan potara>Buutenks>Chou Gohan>Buff Buu>Buucolo>=SSJ3 Gotenks=Super Buu>>>>>SSJ Gotenks pre rosat>=<Kid Buu>SSJ3 Goku>Movie 10 Broly>Grey Buu>SSJ2 Movie 10 Gohan>Fat Buu> Goku/Majin Vegeta/Post majin Vegeta>SSJ2 Kid Gohan>SSJ2 Vegeta=SPC>PC>>SSJ Goku/post majin vegeta/Majin Vegeta>SSJ Kid Gohan>Dabura=SSJ Teen Gohan>=SSJ kid trunks>SSJ Goten= Cell Games Goku
This is so unrelative.

Cooler, I agree with you. Ignore people like Balty.
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Even if he only knew Kibito and Kaioshin, it doesn't stop him from mentioning Krillin and Piccolo. He could have said, the other two, something like that. Personally, I believe the Buu saga is just too messed up, even if it is my favorite saga. I don't use Daizenshu or any guide books, I don't even use AT's interviews. AT has stated he forgot most of his own series, and the Daizenshu made a mistake by claiming SSJ is 50x base when AT in an interview said he intended SSJ to be 10x. We know it's impossible since Goku used 20x KK and still couldn't beat Frieza, so it's possible AT forgot which KK Goku used against Frieza. But it's clear AT did not intend SSJ to be 50x. These are reasons why I don't take AT's interviews, Daizenshu, etc. seriously.

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In fact he just says 'leave the strongest three' so I think my later explanation about it being more to do with suspense is most likely. AT could have just had Babidi say 'kill the big green one bla bla' otherwise.

Dude, you might as well discount everything and I mean everything AT writes in the manga itself. In the Red Ribbon Army arc AT had General Blue pick up a pretty big rock at the end of a chapter and then in the next chapter it was gone.

Go figure.
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His logic is terrible. He claims Gohan-Boo >> Pure Boo yet Gohan-Boo is influenced by Good Boo and Pure Boo isn't and even when Pure Boo was, Pure Boo didn't get stronger at all.
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Lol nah, I'm just talking about his interviews. I mean he flat out states he doesn't remember most of his work, so how can we fallow what he says in those interviews when he himself can't remember much. And the actual quote is: "They're hiding up there, where they think we can't see them, all seven of them. Even if can't use Kibito's or Kaioshin's energy, there are still the others." See what I mean?
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Mysterious9001
Feb 29 2012, 11:13 PM
His logic is terrible. He claims Gohan-Boo >> Pure Boo yet Gohan-Boo is influenced by Good Boo and Pure Boo isn't and even when Pure Boo was, Pure Boo didn't get stronger at all.
Even if Buuhan was influenced by Good Buu, Gohan was WAY more stronger.
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Feb 29 2012, 11:17 PM
Mysterious9001
Feb 29 2012, 11:13 PM
His logic is terrible. He claims Gohan-Boo >> Pure Boo yet Gohan-Boo is influenced by Good Boo and Pure Boo isn't and even when Pure Boo was, Pure Boo didn't get stronger at all.
Even if Buuhan was influenced by Good Buu, Gohan was WAY more stronger.
Fair enough, but how exactly do you explain Goku being scared of fighting Evil Boo, but wasn't scared to fight Pure Boo at all?
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Weskur
Feb 29 2012, 11:15 PM
Lol nah, I'm just talking about his interviews. I mean he flat out states he doesn't remember most of his work, so how can we fallow what he says in those interviews when he himself can't remember much. And the actual quote is: "They're hiding up there, where they think we can't see them, all seven of them. Even if can't use Kibito's or Kaioshin's energy, there are still the others." See what I mean?
But he was as forgetful as ***** when he was writing. That's my point. Anyway he actually quotes the manga himself in interviews so he doesn't completely forget. He still knows what his intentions were.

Well the quote you're talking about is actually;

Dabra: “Seems they’re trying to hide from us…In total…there are 7. We can’t use Kaioshin and Kibito’s energy…But 3 of them seem to have marvelous energy…

To me that sounds like Kaioshin and Kibito aren't incompatible with Boo but they don't have any where near enough power to help revive Boo. (like the other 3 anyway.)

The quote i'm talking about was later on when Babidi says something along the lines 'take care of the rest but don't kill Kaioshin etc etc'.
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Is that Herms' translation?
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Feb 29 2012, 11:41 PM
Is that Herms' translation?
Does it matter?
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A small update.

SSJ Vegito>SSJ Gogeta>Buuhan>Buutenks>Ultimate Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks>Super Janemba>Super Buu>Kid Buu=SSJ3 Goku=SSJ Gotenks>Fat Buu>SSJ2 Majin Vegeta>SSJ2 Goku>SSJ2 Vegeta>SSJ2 Gohan>Base Gotenks>Super Perfect Cell=M10 LSSJ Broly>Perfect Cell=M8 LSSJ Broly>Dabura

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Yes, because Herms is one of the best in translating. Cocoman got his translation while I got mines online. I can't say mines is better than his, but if he got his from Herms, his is more reliable.
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Weskur
Feb 29 2012, 11:41 PM
Is that Herms' translation?
Yup. I'll check Steve Simmons'(official FUNi translator) anime subs as well. I would trust his over Herms.
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In one quote of Kibito Kai, he tells Old Kai "the heart that Buu gained that went so far as to lower his power through absorptions has returned back to the way it was before". It's suppose to be a Herms translation so it's pretty accurate. So this is kind of like saying, Buu got weaker through absorptions, not only Dai Kaio, but both Kaioshins.
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Mar 1 2012, 12:23 AM
In one quote of Kibito Kai, he tells Old Kai "the heart that Buu gained that went so far as to lower his power through absorptions has returned back to the way it was before". It's suppose to be a Herms translation so it's pretty accurate. So this is kind of like saying, Buu got weaker through absorptions, not only Dai Kaio, but both Kaioshins.
He worded it that way because Japan has no plurals or whatever. It's the same thing with Freeza's parent(s).
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