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Topic Started: Feb 29 2012, 10:02 AM (4,205 Views)
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Feb 29 2012, 07:46 PM
Uh huh, South Kaioshin gave Buu all that power, yet he was not there. Cool story.

Kaioshin magic? No, more like Kai energy. They also mention Kibito, they couldn't use they're energy to revive Buu, nothing to do with magic.

Yeah, bad air, inside Buu, that only split Vegetto, and not Gotenks.

I find it funny how you honestly believe you got this in the bag but your not doing a good job in providing evidence. Your not using evidence in the manga, only assumptions. Meanwhile, everything I'm explaining is strictly manga; no anime, no Daizenshu.
Ohohohohohohohohohoho that is hilariiiiiious!

I have been providing all of the evidence while you have been providing all of the assumptions chief among which is 'pure Boo was holding back sooooo muuuch POWWWWWAAAZZZZZZZ!'

You know what I find even funnier? Goku only thinks Pure Boo 'hung in there';

“…You’re amazin’. You hung in there really well all on your own…”

Sounds more like Pure Boo having a very slight advantage or even disadvantage in their fight.



I have explained everything so clear that anyone who isn't a Pure Boo fanboy/youtube idiot can understand. Now go back to commenting on DBfights' videos (after getting your comments approved by the tard himself of course).
Edited by Cocoman, Feb 29 2012, 08:19 PM.
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After all that, you still can't answer those questions? And your ripping me to shreds? You? Who is not providing anything from the manga? Buu holding back is not an assumption, it is stated by Goku.
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Feb 29 2012, 08:27 PM
After all that, you still can't answer those questions? And your ripping me to shreds? You? Who is not providing anything from the manga? Buu holding back is not an assumption, it is stated by Goku.
Lol I did answer the questions. I have been providing quotes from the manga while you have been making assumptions or can you not read very well? Maybe I was expecting too much from someone who watches DBFights' videos :w00t:

Also Goku never states he was holding back he said he was playing around and later on he says he is having the time of his life. And guess what? Boo's only enjoy fighting opponents who can at least rival themselves;

Boo: “Hey! Why’d you change back? It’s fun fighting you. Let’s do some more!”

Boo: “Enough already. You’re weak. This isn’t any fun, so I’ll kill you.”

So, once again, you fail.
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You provided one quote, I asked a question of how was it possible to gain power from South Kaioshin when he was not there and you did not answer. You still can't answer why couldn't they use Kai ENERGY to revive Buu and you mention Kaioshin magic? You go with bad air splitting up Vegetto, which yeah I guess it was but why Vegetto and not Gotenks? Fusion works inside Buu stated by Goku, but why not the earrings? I don't see how you don't get that Kai energy is incompatible with Buu after all these clues and evidence. And, how is that different from holding back? If your playing around and not taking it serious, your not going all out. Only after the genki dama was made that Kid Buu was actually scared, and tried pushing it back.
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This isn't fair for Cocoman, restricting him from using a specific guidebook that would easily give him the victory.

Coco, use the stuff from the other thread since it's not the daizenshuu.
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You provided one quote


And what have you provided? Zilch, nothing, nada.

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I asked a question of how was it possible to gain power from South Kaioshin when he was not there and you did not answer. You still can't answer why couldn't they use Kai ENERGY to revive Buu and you mention Kaioshin magic?


South Kaioshin was a part of Boo's nature. In fact, i'm starting to doubt if you have even read the manga. As Evil Boo was changing to Buff Boo the 'squiggly lines' in Boo's head were all changing their formation until they went back to Pure Boo. Buff Boo had to show up as part of the process of reverting back to pure Boo.

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You go with bad air splitting up Vegetto, which yeah I guess it was but why Vegetto and not Gotenks?


And once again i'm doubting if you've actually read the manga. Goku says 'must be the air' or something along those lines. It sounds like AT just made an excuse to separate them.

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I don't see how you don't get that Kai energy is incompatible with Buu after all these clues and evidence.


So lets see. Kaioshin never says that South Kaioshin weakened yet says Dai Kaioshin did. Why? Because Dai Kaioshin was the only one to effect Boo in any other way apart from making him stronger. As I have said countless times Boo absorbs the main attributes of the Kaioshins. South's being strength and bulkiness and Dai's being childlike, innocent and fat.... There is nothing proving Kaioshin energy isn't compatable. Just that the Kaioshins effect Boo is mysterious ways.

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And, how is that different from holding back? If your playing around and not taking it serious, your not going all out.


I can actually tell you haven't read the manga now. The quote about 'playing around' is said when Boo is prolonging his regeneration. That doesn't mean he was 'playing around' in the fight itself. Also, as I said before, Goku later says that Boo was haing the time of his life. Boo's only have fun fighting opponents who rival themselves and thus Goku at least rivals Pure Boo.

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Only after the genki dama was made that Kid Buu was actually scared, and tried pushing it back


Baseless. It's like me saying 'Gohan was holding back against Gotenks-Boo until he broke out of his galactic donuts. Therefore Gohan is actually stronger than Gotenks-Boo.
Edited by Cocoman, Feb 29 2012, 10:13 PM.
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Not fair? The manga is the original and number one source, the manga triumphs over anime, Daizenshu, etc. All the answers are in the manga so why use Daizenshu? We know it had made some mistakes, so we have to use a guide book that has made mistakes before? If he can find evidence, hard evidence that disproves mines then I'll gladly change my mind. I don't care who's right or who's wrong, I care about the truth.
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Feb 29 2012, 09:50 PM
This isn't fair for Cocoman, restricting him from using a specific guidebook that would easily give him the victory.

Coco, use the stuff from the other thread since it's not the daizenshuu.
What thread? The one where I posted the proof from Son Goku densetsu, DB Forever etc? He's already seen it and he is still as ignorant as ever.
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Feb 29 2012, 10:14 PM
Not fair? The manga is the original and number one source, the manga triumphs over anime, Daizenshu, etc. All the answers are in the manga so why use Daizenshu? We know it had made some mistakes, so we have to use a guide book that has made mistakes before? If he can find evidence, hard evidence that disproves mines then I'll gladly change my mind. I don't care who's right or who's wrong, I care about the truth.
There are no mistakes in DB forever etc. DB Forever was released as guide specifically for the Kanzenban release of the manga and thus it is telling us the facts.

Besides the manga says Evil Boo>>>Goku and Goku(FP Attack)>Pure Boo(haxed regeneration).
Edited by Cocoman, Feb 29 2012, 10:18 PM.
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Feb 29 2012, 10:12 PM
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You provided one quote


And what have you provided? Zilch, nothing, nada.

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I asked a question of how was it possible to gain power from South Kaioshin when he was not there and you did not answer. You still can't answer why couldn't they use Kai ENERGY to revive Buu and you mention Kaioshin magic?


South Kaioshin was a part of Boo's nature. In fact, i'm starting to doubt if you have even read the manga. As Evil Boo was changing to Buff Boo the 'squiggly lines' in Boo's head were all changing their formation until they went back to Pure Boo. Buff Boo had to show up as part of the process of reverting back to pure Boo.

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You go with bad air splitting up Vegetto, which yeah I guess it was but why Vegetto and not Gotenks?


And once again i'm doubting if you've actually read the manga. Goku says 'must be the air' or something along those lines. It sounds like AT just made an excuse to separate them.

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I don't see how you don't get that Kai energy is incompatible with Buu after all these clues and evidence.


So lets see. Kaioshin never says that South Kaioshin weakened yet says Dai Kaioshin did. Why? Because Dai Kaioshin was the only one to effect Boo in any other way apart from making him stronger. As I have said countless times Boo absorbs the main attributes of the Kaioshins. South's being strength and bulkiness and Dai's being childlike, innocent and fat.... There is nothing proving Kaioshin energy isn't compatable. Just that the Kaioshins effect Boo is mysterious ways.

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And, how is that different from holding back? If your playing around and not taking it serious, your not going all out.


I can actually tell you haven't read the manga now. The quote about 'playing around' is said when Boo is prolonging his regeneration. That doesn't mean he was 'playing around' in the fight itself. Also, as I said before, Goku later says that Boo was haing the time of his life. Boo's only have fun fighting opponents who rival themselves and thus Goku at least rivals Pure Boo.

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Only after the genki dama was made that Kid Buu was actually scared, and tried pushing it back


Baseless. It's like me saying 'Gohan was holding back against Gotenks-Boo until he broke out of his galactic donuts. Therefore Gohan is actually stronger than Gotenks-Boo.
I provided nothing? Lol I won't copy and past what I provided, go back and read my earlier post.
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Feb 29 2012, 10:17 PM
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You provided one quote


And what have you provided? Zilch, nothing, nada.

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I asked a question of how was it possible to gain power from South Kaioshin when he was not there and you did not answer. You still can't answer why couldn't they use Kai ENERGY to revive Buu and you mention Kaioshin magic?


South Kaioshin was a part of Boo's nature. In fact, i'm starting to doubt if you have even read the manga. As Evil Boo was changing to Buff Boo the 'squiggly lines' in Boo's head were all changing their formation until they went back to Pure Boo. Buff Boo had to show up as part of the process of reverting back to pure Boo.

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You go with bad air splitting up Vegetto, which yeah I guess it was but why Vegetto and not Gotenks?


And once again i'm doubting if you've actually read the manga. Goku says 'must be the air' or something along those lines. It sounds like AT just made an excuse to separate them.

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I don't see how you don't get that Kai energy is incompatible with Buu after all these clues and evidence.


So lets see. Kaioshin never says that South Kaioshin weakened yet says Dai Kaioshin did. Why? Because Dai Kaioshin was the only one to effect Boo in any other way apart from making him stronger. As I have said countless times Boo absorbs the main attributes of the Kaioshins. South's being strength and bulkiness and Dai's being childlike, innocent and fat.... There is nothing proving Kaioshin energy isn't compatable. Just that the Kaioshins effect Boo is mysterious ways.

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And, how is that different from holding back? If your playing around and not taking it serious, your not going all out.


I can actually tell you haven't read the manga now. The quote about 'playing around' is said when Boo is prolonging his regeneration. That doesn't mean he was 'playing around' in the fight itself. Also, as I said before, Goku later says that Boo was haing the time of his life. Boo's only have fun fighting opponents who rival themselves and thus Goku at least rivals Pure Boo.

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Only after the genki dama was made that Kid Buu was actually scared, and tried pushing it back


Baseless. It's like me saying 'Gohan was holding back against Gotenks-Boo until he broke out of his galactic donuts. Therefore Gohan is actually stronger than Gotenks-Boo.
I provided nothing? Lol I won't copy and past what I provided, go back and read my earlier post.
I have read every piece of trash that you call 'evidence'. There is nothing of the sort.
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Yeah, yet you STILL can't answer why they can't use Kai energy to revive Buu. Funny, then Goku says he acted to cool and should have used the earrings. Proving...Goku underestimated Buu, that they all did.

And I don't know why your getting so worked up over this lol. Calm down and breath...
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Feb 29 2012, 10:23 PM
Yeah, yet you STILL can't answer why they can't use Kai energy to revive Buu. Funny, then Goku says he acted to cool and should have used the earrings. Proving...Goku underestimated Buu, that they all did.

And I don't know why your getting so worked up over this lol. Calm down and breath...
Who said I was worked up over this? I'm just posting the way I do ie saying what needs to be said.

And I already did. I also brought up the point that it's actually likely that Kaioshin and Kibito were just too weak to revive Boo. Think about. He only left Kaioshin alive so he could settle the score with him face to face. Kibito was just refuge and so was Piccolo and Krillin (at least according to their suppressed powers).
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That would have made sense, but Dabura specifically mentions Kibito and Kaioshin. If they would have said something like, "we can't use Kibito, Kaioshin, or those other two weaklings's energy" then yes I would agree that they were weak. But Dabura specifically mentions Kibito and Kaioshin.

Like I said, I don't care who's right or wrong, I just want to know the truth. If you prove me wrong then so be it.
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Feb 29 2012, 10:34 PM
That would have made sense, but Dabura specifically mentions Kibito and Kaioshin. If they would have said something like, "we can't use Kibito, Kaioshin, or those other two weaklings's energy" then yes I would agree that they were weak. But Dabura specifically mentions Kibito and Kaioshin.

Like I said, I don't care who's right or wrong, I just want to know the truth. If you prove me wrong then so be it.
He mentions them specifically because he's the only ones they know. I would think that's quite obvious... You can also say for writing reasons he wanted to add a little suspense before Piccolo and Krillin got *****ed up.


But the problem is there is nothing actually proving you right while there is oh so much going against you. The whole point of Pure Boo's character was to power him down to get back on Goku's level. Otherwise what would be the point? AT wanted Goku to be the hero at the end of the day and the only way that was going to happen was through an intense battle with dramatic twists vs a Boo with no absorptions. He probably realized 'wait a second, I think I went to far with this big bad Boo' and thus Pure Boo was born. That's what is almost spelled out imo.I'm pretty sure he alludes to this in an interview. I'll try to find it.
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