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Feb 29 2012, 05:41 PM
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Feb 29 2012, 05:36 PM
Super Buu is not stronger than Kid Buu, it's impossible. Super Buu still has influence, and we have evidence that the Kais weakened Buu. Kid Buu being the original pure Buu, he's the strongest nonfused Buu.
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Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.

Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Kid Buu >= Fat Buu


Just think about it, in terms of the anime.
We see SSJ3 Goku fight Kid Buu evenly. Yet he cant do anything to Buutenks in SSJ3 let alone Buuhan.
But Kid Buu was going at it with SSJ3 Goku. SSJ Goku also beat Ultimate Gohan while Vegeta did in SSJ3 Gotenks(was really them but it was their power nonetheless) Also the Kais did weaken the state Buu was in making him the weak Fat Buu in the end.
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Feb 29 2012, 05:41 PM
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Feb 29 2012, 05:36 PM
Super Buu is not stronger than Kid Buu, it's impossible. Super Buu still has influence, and we have evidence that the Kais weakened Buu. Kid Buu being the original pure Buu, he's the strongest nonfused Buu.
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Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.

Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Kid Buu >= Fat Buu


Just think about it, in terms of the anime.
We see SSJ3 Goku fight Kid Buu evenly. Yet he cant do anything to Buutenks in SSJ3 let alone Buuhan.
The manga always>the anime. Super Buu is still influenced, and it has been stated in the manga that the Kais weakened Buu. Kai energy and Buu energy are not compatible so Super Buu cannot be stronger than Kid Buu. The manga would be contradicting it's self. As I said, Kid Buu was not trying with Goku, this is also stated. Goku states Kid Buu was toying with all of them, and that he should have used the earrings.
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Feb 29 2012, 05:54 PM
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Feb 29 2012, 05:41 PM
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Feb 29 2012, 05:36 PM
Super Buu is not stronger than Kid Buu, it's impossible. Super Buu still has influence, and we have evidence that the Kais weakened Buu. Kid Buu being the original pure Buu, he's the strongest nonfused Buu.
No.

Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.

Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Kid Buu >= Fat Buu


Just think about it, in terms of the anime.
We see SSJ3 Goku fight Kid Buu evenly. Yet he cant do anything to Buutenks in SSJ3 let alone Buuhan.
But Kid Buu was going at it with SSJ3 Goku. SSJ Goku also beat Ultimate Gohan while Vegeta did in SSJ3 Gotenks(was really them but it was their power nonetheless) Also the Kais did weaken the state Buu was in making him the weak Fat Buu in the end.
Come on, we all know SSJ Goku could never beat Ultimate Gohan. If he could he would have just dumped on Buutenks instead of fusing. Vegeta didnt even have SSJ3, he cant even come close to beating an SSJ3, let alone an SSJ3 fusion.




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The manga always>the anime. Super Buu is still influenced, and it has been stated in the manga that the Kais weakened Buu. Kai energy and Buu energy are not compatible so Super Buu cannot be stronger than Kid Buu. The manga would be contradicting it's self. As I said, Kid Buu was not trying with Goku, this is also stated. Goku states Kid Buu was toying with all of them, and that he should have used the earrings.



Everyone around this forum says the Manga says Buuhan is the strongest. I dont read Manga, and the anime definitely shows Kid Buu is not the strongest.
Edited by Accelerator, Feb 29 2012, 06:08 PM.
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Feb 29 2012, 06:04 PM
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Weskur
Feb 29 2012, 05:36 PM
Super Buu is not stronger than Kid Buu, it's impossible. Super Buu still has influence, and we have evidence that the Kais weakened Buu. Kid Buu being the original pure Buu, he's the strongest nonfused Buu.
No.

Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.

Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Kid Buu >= Fat Buu


Just think about it, in terms of the anime.
We see SSJ3 Goku fight Kid Buu evenly. Yet he cant do anything to Buutenks in SSJ3 let alone Buuhan.
But Kid Buu was going at it with SSJ3 Goku. SSJ Goku also beat Ultimate Gohan while Vegeta did in SSJ3 Gotenks(was really them but it was their power nonetheless) Also the Kais did weaken the state Buu was in making him the weak Fat Buu in the end.
Come on, we all know SSJ Goku could never beat Ultimate Gohan. If he could he would have just dumped on Buutenks instead of fusing. Vegeta didnt even have SSJ3, he cant even come close to beating an SSJ3, let alone an SSJ3 fusion.



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Feb 29 2012, 05:41 PM
Weskur
Feb 29 2012, 05:36 PM
Super Buu is not stronger than Kid Buu, it's impossible. Super Buu still has influence, and we have evidence that the Kais weakened Buu. Kid Buu being the original pure Buu, he's the strongest nonfused Buu.
No.

Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.

Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Kid Buu >= Fat Buu


Just think about it, in terms of the anime.
We see SSJ3 Goku fight Kid Buu evenly. Yet he cant do anything to Buutenks in SSJ3 let alone Buuhan.
The manga always>the anime. Super Buu is still influenced, and it has been stated in the manga that the Kais weakened Buu. Kai energy and Buu energy are not compatible so Super Buu cannot be stronger than Kid Buu. The manga would be contradicting it's self. As I said, Kid Buu was not trying with Goku, this is also stated. Goku states Kid Buu was toying with all of them, and that he should have used the earrings.



Everyone around this forum says the Manga says Buuhan is the strongest. I dont read Manga, and the anime definitely shows Kid Buu is not the strongest. [/quote]Buuhan is the strongest, fallowed by Buutenks, but the debate is always Super Buu and Kid Buu. The list should go,

Buuhan>Buutenks>Kid Buu>Super Buu>Fat Buu>Evil Buu>Good Buu..
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Buuhan>Buutenks>Kid Buu>Super Buu>Fat Buu>Evil Buu>Good Buu..


No, from the Manga freaks around here they say that
Kid Buu >= Fat Buu

I dont see how it makes sense that Kid Buu > Super Buu
They needed an SSJ3 Fusion to compete.

SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku >= Kid Buu >= Fat Buu
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Because some people here are either biased or don't read right. How can Fat Buu=Kid Buu if Dai Kaioshin made Buu weaker, resulting in Fat Buu?
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Feb 29 2012, 06:17 PM
Because some people here are either biased or don't read right. How can Fat Buu=Kid Buu if Dai Kaioshin made Buu weaker, resulting in Fat Buu?
Because there was Buff Buu in between who was stronger than Kid Buu and then Fat Buu came around.

They needed SSJ3 Gotenks to rival Super Buu. I dont see where you got that SSJ3 Goku = SSJ3 Gotenks.
Yet SSJ3 Goku was on par with Kid Buu.

I dont see how that isnt definitive proof.
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South Kaioshin did not make Buu stronger, no where in the manga it states this. As I said, there is enough evidence that prove Kai energy is incompatible with Buu. Dabura stated they couldn't use Kibito or Supreme Kai's energy to revive Buu, but they can use the others. So why can't they specifically use Kibito or Supreme Kai to revive Buu? And when Kibito Kai is telling Old Kai the story, he says through absorptionS, Buu lost power. Meaning he also lost power with South Kaioshin. We even have evidence when Vegetto split inside Buu, Vegetto, a being created by a Kai item split inside Buu. And it is stated fusion does work inside Buu, but for some reason, the earrings, a Kai item, did not work inside Buu.

No, SSJ3 Goku was not on par with Kid Buu, he was, but it was stated Kid Buu was not going all out. So Goku is not stronger than Kid Buu, it's impossible.
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Feb 29 2012, 06:27 PM
South Kaioshin did not make Buu stronger, no where in the manga it states this. As I said, there is enough evidence that prove Kai energy is incompatible with Buu. Dabura stated they couldn't use Kibito or Supreme Kai's energy to revive Buu, but they can use the others. So why can't they specifically use Kibito or Supreme Kai to revive Buu? And when Kibito Kai is telling Old Kai the story, he says through absorptionS, Buu lost power. Meaning he also lost power with South Kaioshin. We even have evidence when Vegetto split inside Buu, Vegetto, a being created by a Kai item split inside Buu. And it is stated fusion does work inside Buu, but for some reason, the earrings, a Kai item, did not work inside Buu.

No, SSJ3 Goku was not on par with Kid Buu, he was, but it was stated Kid Buu was not going all out. So Goku is not stronger than Kid Buu, it's impossible.
Okay then dump what I said, and go back to my set up

Super Buu >= Gotenks SSJ3 > Kid Buu >= Goku SSJ3 >= Fat Buu

And that was just Super Buu

Buuhan > Buutenks > Ultimate Gohan > Super Buu >= Gotenks SSJ3 > Kid Buu >= Goku SSJ3 >= Fat Buu
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Super Buu was not stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, more like the other way around. Gotenks was joking too much and by the time he was going serious, time ran out. Read the manga and notice at the end, Super Buu was getting beat, and when Gotenks was going to finish Buu, time ran out. As I said, Kid Buu is more powerful than Super Buu, and I believe I showed some evidence.
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Feb 29 2012, 05:36 PM
Super Buu is not stronger than Kid Buu, it's impossible. Super Buu still has influence, and we have evidence that the Kais weakened Buu. Kid Buu being the original pure Buu, he's the strongest nonfused Buu.
Lol Evil Boo has no Kaioshin influence. He has Mr Boo's influence and that's it.
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Good Buu basically became all the Kai influence, and if Evil Buu has him inside, he has Kai influence.
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Feb 29 2012, 06:36 PM
Super Buu was not stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, more like the other way around. Gotenks was joking too much and by the time he was going serious, time ran out. Read the manga and notice at the end, Super Buu was getting beat, and when Gotenks was going to finish Buu, time ran out. As I said, Kid Buu is more powerful than Super Buu, and I believe I showed some evidence.
You have showed no evidence that Super Buu is below Kid Buu.
Okay whatever
Gotenks SSJ3 > Super Buu

Gotenks SSJ3 >> Goku SSJ3

Goku SSJ3 >= Fat Buu

Goku SSJ3 and Kid Buu fought evenly, he didnt go all out on Buu because he wanted Vegeta to get his turn, and so he couldnt sustain SSJ3. Hence spirit bomb.

So your "Kid Buu didnt go all out" statement has no relevance.
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Feb 29 2012, 06:38 PM
Good Buu basically became all the Kai influence, and if Evil Buu has him inside, he has Kai influence.
By your logic Evil Boo should be just as strong as Fat Boo. Keep up the fanboyism lol.

I have already ripped your argument apart in other threads. Just get over it. Evil Boo>Pure Boo.
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@Gogeta SSJ4 Your watching the anime too much. Goku did not say he wanted Vegeta to have a try in the manga.

@Cocoman No, Evil Buu is way stronger than Fat Buu. How do you figure that by my logic Evil Buu is around the same as Fat Buu? Lol ripped my argument to shreds?
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