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SSJ2 gohan (Teen) vs. Full Power Dabura
Topic Started: Feb 29 2012, 08:11 AM (3,216 Views)
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Dabura was stated to be around Perfect Cell level and Cell was beaten by Gohan in SSJ2 so how would the fight go?
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Gohan and Debra fight relatively even for a while, but Gohan would win in the end. Daizenshuu 2 states Gohan was only weaker because he couldn't access his anger, and that he fought in Super Saiyan 2 against the demon king.

SSj2 Kid Gohan (angered) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (angered) > SSj2 Kid Gohan (normal) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (normal) ~ Debra
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Feb 29 2012, 08:22 AM
Gohan and Debra fight relatively even for a while, but Gohan would win in the end. Daizenshuu 2 states Gohan was only weaker because he couldn't access his anger, and that he fought in Super Saiyan 2 against the demon king.

SSj2 Kid Gohan (angered) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (angered) > SSj2 Kid Gohan (normal) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (normal) ~ Debra
Thats if you whole- heartedly believe that Gohan was SSJ2 against Dabura when they fought.

For me, the implications that he was regular MSSJ are to great to ever view him as such.

So SSJ2 Gohan absolutely lol stomps Dabura.
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Feb 29 2012, 08:36 AM
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Feb 29 2012, 08:22 AM
Gohan and Debra fight relatively even for a while, but Gohan would win in the end. Daizenshuu 2 states Gohan was only weaker because he couldn't access his anger, and that he fought in Super Saiyan 2 against the demon king.

SSj2 Kid Gohan (angered) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (angered) > SSj2 Kid Gohan (normal) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (normal) ~ Debra
Thats if you whole- heartedly believe that Gohan was SSJ2 against Dabura when they fought.

For me, the implications that he was regular MSSJ are to great to ever view him as such.

So SSJ2 Gohan absolutely lol stomps Dabura.
I believe whatever the guidebooks say since they have more authority than us.
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But the Manga says other than the Guidebooks, and it's more cannon than the Manga.

However, I do believe in the Anime Gohan was SS2, just because of how Toei does things.
Edited by Saberoph, Feb 29 2012, 08:42 AM.
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Feb 29 2012, 08:41 AM
But the Manga says other than the Guidebooks, and it's more cannon than the Manga.

However, I do believe in the Anime Gohan was SS2, just because of how Toei does things.
I don't understand your first sentence.
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The Manga shows us that Gohan is MSS against Dabra, that goes against the Guidebooks, and the Manga is more Cannon than the Guidebooks.

Wow, I first said the Diaz is more Cannon than the Manga...I really must be tired.
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Feb 29 2012, 08:48 AM
The Manga shows us that Gohan is MSS against Dabra, that goes against the Guidebooks, and the Manga is more Cannon than the Guidebooks.

Wow, I first said the Diaz is more Cannon than the Manga...I really must be tired.
The manga is vague about his form. The Daiz confirms it.
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Really, because if there aren't any sparks, then Gohan isn't SS2. We can go all around about this for days, but in the end if there isn't a single panel of Gohan having sparks against Dabra, yet when Gohan went SS2 at the Budokai, then Gohan wasn't S2 against Dabra.
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I'm damn serious

The Daiz is nothing but guide book canon to the movies AND the anime.
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Feb 29 2012, 08:40 AM
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Feb 29 2012, 08:36 AM
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Feb 29 2012, 08:22 AM
Gohan and Debra fight relatively even for a while, but Gohan would win in the end. Daizenshuu 2 states Gohan was only weaker because he couldn't access his anger, and that he fought in Super Saiyan 2 against the demon king.

SSj2 Kid Gohan (angered) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (angered) > SSj2 Kid Gohan (normal) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (normal) ~ Debra
Thats if you whole- heartedly believe that Gohan was SSJ2 against Dabura when they fought.

For me, the implications that he was regular MSSJ are to great to ever view him as such.

So SSJ2 Gohan absolutely lol stomps Dabura.
I believe whatever the guidebooks say since they have more authority than us.
Thats being a bit submissive.

Guidebooks are sometimes helpful but they are just that, 'guides'. They aren't the law of Dragon Ball their just their to help people understand or get a better understanding of.

I dont really see the logic in choosing the Guidebooks over the Manga when the Manga makes it very clear that Gohan was regular MSSJ.
You can choose to ignore the manga if you want but then that just leads to unnecessary dispute.

I cant count how many topics have been made about this same old dispute of whether Gohan was SSJ2 or just MSSJ but maybe you just need some convincing.
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Feb 29 2012, 08:58 AM
Really, because if there aren't any sparks, then Gohan isn't SS2. We can go all around about this for days, but in the end if there isn't a single panel of Gohan having sparks against Dabra, yet when Gohan went SS2 at the Budokai, then Gohan wasn't S2 against Dabra.

So Nappa and Vegetto had sparks for no reason?
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Feb 29 2012, 09:00 AM
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Feb 29 2012, 08:40 AM
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Feb 29 2012, 08:36 AM
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Feb 29 2012, 08:22 AM
Gohan and Debra fight relatively even for a while, but Gohan would win in the end. Daizenshuu 2 states Gohan was only weaker because he couldn't access his anger, and that he fought in Super Saiyan 2 against the demon king.

SSj2 Kid Gohan (angered) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (angered) > SSj2 Kid Gohan (normal) = SSj2 Teen Gohan (normal) ~ Debra
Thats if you whole- heartedly believe that Gohan was SSJ2 against Dabura when they fought.

For me, the implications that he was regular MSSJ are to great to ever view him as such.

So SSJ2 Gohan absolutely lol stomps Dabura.
I believe whatever the guidebooks say since they have more authority than us.
Thats being a bit submissive.

Guidebooks are sometimes helpful but they are just that, 'guides'. They aren't the law of Dragon Ball their just their to help people understand or get a better understanding of.

I dont really see the logic in choosing the Guidebooks over the Manga when the Manga makes it very clear that Gohan was regular MSSJ.
You can choose to ignore the manga if you want but then that just leads to unnecessary dispute.

I cant count how many topics have been made about this same old dispute of whether Gohan was SSJ2 or just MSSJ but maybe you just need some convincing.

I don't need convincing. I am the master of Dragon Ball, sire.
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So Nappa and Vegetto had sparks for no reason?
Nappa isn't even relevant due to the fact he Never went SS. Since you want to drag the Diaz into this, the Diaz never shows Vegetto and an SS2.
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Feb 29 2012, 09:04 AM
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So Nappa and Vegetto had sparks for no reason?
Nappa isn't even relevant due to the fact he Never went SS. Since you want to drag the Diaz into this, the Diaz never shows Vegetto and an SS2.
What is that last point supposed to prove?
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I don't need convincing. I am the master of Dragon Ball, sire.


That genuinely made me laugh, and i mean no disrespect with that said.
I've seen you post within other topics and i gotta say you know your stuff, but i cannot agree with you on this.

Maybe that thread about Gohan should be revived in another topic but i will try wont try convince you here based on your answer, sir.
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