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The Ultimate Power
Topic Started: Feb 28 2012, 04:55 AM (2,495 Views)
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Feb 29 2012, 07:43 AM
You mean all the evidence before the statement that Chibi Boo is the strongest Boo. Before that the evidence was showing Ultimate Gohan is the strongest unfused saiyan. And all the evidence shows that. To say otherwise is dismissing the evidence that drove the plot it's self.
What evidence? It's all shaky at best.
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You mean Goku saying inside Super that him and Vegeta have No chance at beating him without Fusion. That doesn't sound shaky.

Then there's Goku admitting he needs fusion to beat Ultimate Boo. Again that doesn't sound shaky.

Then we have Goku not wanting to have anything to do with Super Boo. That again doesn't sound shaky.

It's clear Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Boo, who is someone Goku didn't want any of. Once again, that doesn't sound shaky.

To say, there isn't any evidence, you have to prove those statements are shaky...yet they are not.
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I'm still waiting for you to prove those facts are shaky...
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Goku, IMO, SSjin 2 Goku (EoZ) => Kid Buu.
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I think I've proved my point. Those statements aren't shaky at all, and the evidence that says Ultimate Gohan is stronger than SS3 Goku is what drives nearly 90% of the plot in the later parts of the Boo arc.
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No need to double post, I hadn't seen this yet.
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You mean Goku saying inside Super that him and Vegeta have No chance at beating him without Fusion. That doesn't sound shaky.

You mean no chance because they were small. He thought he was relevant against Buutenks enough to go help Gohan, even before Old Kai told him not to.
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Then there's Goku admitting he needs fusion to beat Ultimate Boo. Again that doesn't sound shaky.

He couldn't show SSj3 to Vegeta. Notice how he uses the form against Buutenks, but then doesn't use it again until Vegeta basically gives him permission to on the Kai planet. Strange...
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Then we have Goku not wanting to have anything to do with Super Boo. That again doesn't sound shaky.

It's clear Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Boo, who is someone Goku didn't want any of. Once again, that doesn't sound shaky.

For Vegeta's sake, he wasn't going to use his SSj3 power.
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To say, there isn't any evidence, you have to prove those statements are shaky...yet they are not.

They are.

Goku never shows fear of Buu until he's around Vegeta. He confronts Buutenks of all people. He went ahead and fought Kid Buu despite that being the most powerful form of Buu.
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You mean no chance because they were small. He thought he was relevant against Buutenks enough to go help Gohan, even before Old Kai told him not to.
And Goku's words are when they leave Boo they have no chance, and is not contradicted due to the fact MSS Goku and Vegeta got thrashed around and worn out with a Super Boo who was equal to their size.

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He couldn't show SSj3 to Vegeta. Notice how he uses the form against Buutenks, but then doesn't use it again until Vegeta basically gives him permission to on the Kai planet. Strange...
Yet, when he uses SS3 against Bootenks, Goku wanted him to wait for Gohan to find the other Potara and even at first didn't wanna fight Bootenks.

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For Vegeta's sake, he wasn't going to use his SSj3 power.
You mean after Vegeta already called Goku on it, and yes Goku didn't go SS3 again until later, but it's also stated how much SS3 drains the user.

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They are.

Goku never shows fear of Buu until he's around Vegeta. He confronts Buutenks of all people. He went ahead and fought Kid Buu despite that being the most powerful form of Buu.
SS3 drains the user greatly, remember at the lookout after Goku went SS3 against Fat Boo, how much it tired Goku out. Your making it sound like SS3 is draining Goku so little that he could Transform into SS3 again only a few minutes later.
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Feb 29 2012, 09:13 AM
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You mean no chance because they were small. He thought he was relevant against Buutenks enough to go help Gohan, even before Old Kai told him not to.
And Goku's words are when they leave Boo they have no chance, and is not contradicted due to the fact MSS Goku and Vegeta got thrashed around and worn out with a Super Boo who was equal to their size.

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He couldn't show SSj3 to Vegeta. Notice how he uses the form against Buutenks, but then doesn't use it again until Vegeta basically gives him permission to on the Kai planet. Strange...
Yet, when he uses SS3 against Bootenks, Goku wanted him to wait for Gohan to find the other Potara and even at first didn't wanna fight Bootenks.

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For Vegeta's sake, he wasn't going to use his SSj3 power.
You mean after Vegeta already called Goku on it, and yes Goku didn't go SS3 again until later, but it's also stated how much SS3 drains the user.

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They are.

Goku never shows fear of Buu until he's around Vegeta. He confronts Buutenks of all people. He went ahead and fought Kid Buu despite that being the most powerful form of Buu.
SS3 drains the user greatly, remember at the lookout after Goku went SS3 against Fat Boo, how much it tired Goku out. Your making it sound like SS3 is draining Goku so little that he could Transform into SS3 again only a few minutes later.
Goku didn't know about the drain until he used it against Kid Buu, so that's not any proof. He just flat out didn't want to hurt Vegeta's pride.
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How can Goku not know about the drain? He trained with it in The Heavens, then went SS3 against fat Boo and was exhausted.

Now your'e just ignoring facts.
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Feb 29 2012, 09:19 AM
How can Goku not know about the drain? He trained with it in The Heavens, then went SS3 against fat Boo and was exhausted.

Now your'e just ignoring facts.
I'd like to introduce you to something Goku said to Vegeta that you're either ignoring or you missed.

Chapter: 513 (DBZ 319), P1.2
Context: after Goku drops out of Super Saiyan 3
Goku: “Da-dammit…When I was dead, it was no problem at all…It seems that in the end, becoming a Super Saiyan 3 with a living body eats up an excessive amount of ki…”
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So, Goku wasn't tired or sweaty after using SS3 against Fat Boo?

Answer me that!
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Feb 29 2012, 09:23 AM
So, Goku wasn't tired or sweaty after using SS3 against Fat Boo?

Answer me that!
You just ignored a direct statement disproving your argument. SSj3 drained his time on earth.
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I'm not ignoring anything, I read your quote and I am admitting to it.

I am asking you a question.

You said that SS3 ONLY drained Goku in his fight with Chibi Boo, but earlier we saw Goku tired and sweating from his fight with Fat Boo, while in SS3.
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Feb 29 2012, 09:29 AM
I'm not ignoring anything, I read your quote and I am admitting to it.

I am asking you a question.

You said that SS3 ONLY drained Goku in his fight with Chibi Boo, but earlier we saw Goku tired and sweating from his fight with Fat Boo, while in SS3.
Which I just said was draining his time, not his stamina.
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All you said was this...
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Goku didn't know about the drain until he used it against Kid Buu, so that's not any proof. He just flat out didn't want to hurt Vegeta's pride.

Then this.
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I'd like to introduce you to something Goku said to Vegeta that you're either ignoring or you missed.

Chapter: 513 (DBZ 319), P1.2
Context: after Goku drops out of Super Saiyan 3
Goku: “Da-dammit…When I was dead, it was no problem at all…It seems that in the end, becoming a Super Saiyan 3 with a living body eats up an excessive amount of ki…”

Then this.
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You just ignored a direct statement disproving your argument. SSj3 drained his time on earth.

Then your last comment.
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Which I just said was draining his time, not his stamina.


All you said was Goku didn't know about the drain. You can't even quote yourself right.

The point is, I said SS3 drained Goku. I never said how, all I said was it drained Goku and the fact that he was tired (But more like exhausted) from using the form.
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