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Feb 28 2012, 10:56 PM Post #16 |
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I just have; Gohan>SSjin3 Gotenks>SSjin Gotenks(post)>base Gotenks(post)>SSjin Gotenks(pre)>SSjin3 Goku~base Goku (eoz). The Evil Boo-Gotenks fight is a perfect example of AT not giving a ***** about multipliers + I don't have Gotenks getting an individual SSjin2 boost. The way the kids describe SSjin3 implies they only unlocked one further transformation beyond SSjin. Edited by Cocoman, Feb 28 2012, 10:57 PM.
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| Master of Dragon Ball | Feb 28 2012, 11:01 PM Post #17 |
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Daizenshuu says they unlocked it so they did. They probably thought the second level was still the first one. |
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Feb 28 2012, 11:14 PM Post #18 |
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So you follow guide books eh? Then choke on this from the guidebook DB Forever which was released as a guide for the Kanzenban release of the manga; ![]() Says Boo was weakened by having his absorptions undone. Evil Boo>Pure Boo confirmed. Also this from DB Ultimate Battle Collection Round 02; ![]() Refers to Gohan as having “fantastic power surpassing even Super Saiyan 3” following the Elder Kaioshin’s power-up. Edited by Cocoman, Feb 28 2012, 11:14 PM.
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| Master of Dragon Ball | Feb 29 2012, 05:04 AM Post #19 |
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Do you read and understand Japanese? |
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Feb 29 2012, 05:11 AM Post #20 |
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Ultimate Pan and Ultimate Broly can destroy Ultimate Gohan. Their potential is > gohan. |
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Feb 29 2012, 05:21 AM Post #21 |
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Herms Kindly translated a ton ***** of scans over on Daizex. |
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| Master of Dragon Ball | Feb 29 2012, 05:39 AM Post #22 |
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Link. I'll believe it when I see it, but I won't believe heresay. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 29 2012, 06:07 AM Post #23 |
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I look at it this way...in the Boo arc Gohan was Miles and Miles about SS3 Goku, for Goku to have surpassed Ultimate Gohan by EOZ he would have to have more of an increase solo Training (Since Gohan wouldn't be Training with him due to starting a family, Goten and Trunks were too lazy and it's said and never contradicted and never contradicted that Goku hasn't seen Vegeta in 10 years too) than he did in the 7 years in the Heavens. Because going by the Manga, Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Fat Boo, Super Boo and SS3 Gotenks, well also in the Manga SS3 Goku didn't want anything to do with Super Boo. That means, assuming Gohan lost power over the 10 years, because we really don't know Gohan would lose power after his Ki was completely rewritten by Old Kai. Goku's SS3 would have to increase beyond a fusion first, then have to increase his power even further. Also, according to Herms The Namek isn't 100% certain Majin Vegeta isn't stronger than Chibi SS2 Gohan, which tells us Goku maybe doubled his power during his 7 years in the Heavens. So, in short...Goku would have to more than triple his power, at the very least in 10 years, when he just barely doubled it in 7. I think it could be possible, but I find it highly unlikely. |
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| Jamason | Feb 29 2012, 06:22 AM Post #24 |
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Idk.. Even with Gohan slacking off for the last 4 years (Pan was 4 an it had been 10 years, this is just an asumption..) Id Have Gohan as the strongest. GokuEOZ >= SSJ3 Goku Mystic Gohan base>>= SSJ3 Goku |
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Feb 29 2012, 06:47 AM Post #25 |
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Ultimate Gohan in the manga EOZ. In the anime EOZ SSJ3 Goku. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 29 2012, 06:51 AM Post #26 |
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Anime wise it depends on if you take the very few statements and little physical evidence that SS3 Goku is the strongest, or if you take all the statements and several physical statements saying the other. I believe with the Anime, it all depends on which set of evidence you go by. |
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Feb 29 2012, 06:55 AM Post #27 |
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But I go by the many contradictions that point to SSJ3 Goku being the strongest. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 29 2012, 07:23 AM Post #28 |
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But the Anime contradicts it's self... The earlier evidence going along with the Manga... Goku fights Fat Boo, and shows us about where a 100% serious not stalling SS3 Goku is. Then Goku says MSS Gotenks would beat Fat Boo and it's never contradicted, then when Gotenks' Base handles a non series Super Boo attack, which shows us that Base Gotenks Post Roast is stronger than his Pre Rosat MSS self, then Gotenks shows us SS3 which is equal to and to be a little stronger than Super Boo. So, if you're still following gives us this... SS3 Gotenks=>Super Boo>MSS Gotenks>Base Gotenks=>MSS Gotenks>SS3 Goku>Base Gotenks. Then we have Ultimate Gohan who is stated to be stronger than both Super Boo and SS3 Gotenks, so now we have this... Ultimate Gohan>SS3 Gotenks=>Super Boo>MSS Gotenks>Base Gotenks=>MSS Gotenks>SS3 Goku>Base Gotenks. Then we have Gotenks Boo, who is stronger than Ultimate Gohan and Goku does not want to fight him in any way all. Then we get Ultimate Boo, which takes Fusion to even be on his level, then we get this power chart... MSS Vegetto>Ultimate Boo>Gotenks Boo>Ultimate Gohan>SS3 Gotenks=>Super Boo>MSS Gotenks>Base Gotenks=>MSS Gotenks=>Base Gotenks>MSS Goku=MSS Vegeta (Yes I know I haven't said anything yet about MSS Goku hitting Ultimate Boo, that's because it goes along with the other evidence against this). Then Ultimate Boo thrashes around MSS Goku and Vegeta (Since this is talking about the Anime, filler can be brought up) knocking them down to Base. Then inside Super Boo, MSS Goku flat out states they have no chance at fighting Super Boo without Fusion. Now the evidence saying SS3 Goku is the strongest... SS3 Goku survives his little fight (If that's what you would call it) with Gotenks Boo, then MSS Goku knocking Ultimate Boo back (Which can be added up to a surprise attack, much like Piccolo did with Frieza), then inside Super Boo MSS Goku fights a fake Ultimate Gohan and says he's just as strong as the real Gohan, then it's commented that Buff Boo is stronger than Super Boo, then it's said a few times that Chibi Boo is the strongest of the Boo's. Now I know I probably missed something, if I did please remind me. As you can see the second paragraph is a complete contradiction to the first, and it's obvious the first has more stated comments and physical evidence saying Ultimate Gohan>SS3 Goku. and to follow that, anyone would have to completely and biasly dismiss the evidence that drives nearly 90% of the plot. Edited by Saberoph, Feb 29 2012, 07:47 AM.
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| Master of Dragon Ball | Feb 29 2012, 07:40 AM Post #29 |
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I don't know what to make of that jumble. Goku should be stronger throughout the Buu events. Not one shred of evidence is solid enough to prove otherwise. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 29 2012, 07:43 AM Post #30 |
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You mean all the evidence before the statement that Chibi Boo is the strongest Boo. Before that the evidence was showing Ultimate Gohan is the strongest unfused saiyan. And all the evidence shows that. To say otherwise is dismissing the evidence that drove the plot it's self. |
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