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Issue and Debate : 'Majin', 'Ultimate', 'SSJ3' and 'SSJ4'
Topic Started: Feb 27 2012, 09:29 PM (687 Views)
* Yu Narukami
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These are all forms of potential unlocks.

Majin : This brings the charmed person's power past their current max.

'Ultimate' : This also brings out a person's latent power, but it increases it past the user's current potential and rearranges the person as to allow them to access the power in the most efficient way.

SSJ3 : This trasnformation brings out all of the user's current potential, but it does this every time the user transforms. According to the SEG, this transformation has a set multiplier.

SSJ4 : Basically the same as SSJ3, but without the Strain on the body.

Note : 'Ultimate' can't be a measuring stick for a person's latent potential. This is because it brings the user's power 'past' their current max, and we don't know how far past their max it takes them.

Super God Water: Potential unlock and nothing more (I think), have to endure through, possibly life-ending, pain for the effects work though - TeenGohanZ

Guru's unlock: Seems to range from taking days (Krillin - which didn't even seem to start for a few days) to hours (Gohan) to actually fully release all potential. - TeenGohanZ
Edited by Yu Narukami, Feb 27 2012, 10:23 PM.
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Babidi's unlock brought Vegeta's power past it's limits, so it isn't a true potential unlock either.

SSj3 can be a potential unlock or set multiplier depending on what guide you believe.
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Feb 27 2012, 09:29 PM
These are all forms of potential unlocks.

Majin : This brings the charmed person's power past their current max.

'Ultimate' : This also brings out a person's latent power, but it increases it past the user's current potential and rearranges the person as to allow them to access the power in the most efficient way.

SSJ3 : This is stated to be similar to the Majin power up. It brings out all of the user's current potential, but it does this every time the user transforms.

SSJ4 : Basically the same as SSJ3, but without the Strain on the body.

Note : 'Ultimate' can't be a measuring stick for a person's latent potential. This is because it brings the user's power 'past' their current max, and we don't know how far past their max it takes them.
Provide some evidence to support your theory on SSJ3 stated being similar to Majin power up. It was stated by who and when?
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Feb 27 2012, 09:46 PM
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Feb 27 2012, 09:29 PM
These are all forms of potential unlocks.

Majin : This brings the charmed person's power past their current max.

'Ultimate' : This also brings out a person's latent power, but it increases it past the user's current potential and rearranges the person as to allow them to access the power in the most efficient way.

SSJ3 : This is stated to be similar to the Majin power up. It brings out all of the user's current potential, but it does this every time the user transforms.

SSJ4 : Basically the same as SSJ3, but without the Strain on the body.

Note : 'Ultimate' can't be a measuring stick for a person's latent potential. This is because it brings the user's power 'past' their current max, and we don't know how far past their max it takes them.
Provide some evidence to support your theory on SSJ3 stated being similar to Majin power up. It was stated by who and when?
Made an edit, TGZ reminded me of Majin taking the person past their limits.

I believe that the potential theory regarding SSJ3 was in Daizenshuu 7, although I may be incorrect. OFG'll know.
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To add onto your list:
Super God Water: Potential unlock and nothing more (I think), have to endure through, possibly life-ending, pain for the effects work though
Guru's unlock: Seems to range from taking days (Krillin - which didn't even seem to start for a few days) to hours (Gohan) to actually fully release all potential.
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Feb 27 2012, 09:58 PM
To add onto your list:
Super God Water: Potential unlock and nothing more (I think), have to endure through, possibly life-ending, pain for the effects work though
Guru's unlock: Seems to range from taking days (Krillin - which didn't even seem to start for a few days) to hours (Gohan) to actually fully release all potential.
Is it alright if I put these into the original post whilst crediting you?
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Sure, you'll probably want to expand on them more though.

And you should probably say that SSj3 may also be a set multiplier according to the SEG.
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IMO

Majin
Aliases: Babidi's Mind Control

Proof of Consent. Babidi basically owns you with this; he promised you something and you took it. Not a method of unlocking potential. Although, since Babidi now owns you, he could pretty much do whatever he wants with anything in or on your body; you can resist just as much as he wears on you, but he still has hold of you, because, after all, you let him in.

Elder Kaioshin's Unlock
Aliases: Ultimate, Z, Mystic

Elder Kaioshin reworks your ki at a unitized level.

Super Saiyan 3
Aliases: SSJ3, Beyond Ascension

IMO, The initial transformation jettisons the users limitations, and then applies the fixed factor; in other words, Vegeta and Goku were equals, albeit SSJ3.
  • Goku attained SSJ3 and received his uncapping and his fixed-factor transformation.
  • Babidi unbottled Vegeta's power and Vegeta matched Goku.
  • If Vegeta had achieve SSJ3 prior to being possessed, he would have receive an uncapping and his fixed-factor transformation.
  • Should Vegeta attain SSJ3 after having his power unbottled by Babidi, he would have little to no power for SSJ3 to release, but will, at least, attain his fixed-factor transformation.
imo.

Super Saiyan 4
non-canon.
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