Flying Nimbus

Feb 29 2012, 01:13 AM

Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta<<SSJ Vegito

(problem Gogeta fans?)

But really, I've proved this in two other threads anyway, so disregarding the difference between Gogeta and Vegito, we can still say SSJ Gogeta is stronger than Boohan

Fat Boo</=LSSJ Broly (M10)<<Super Boo<Bootenks<<Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta

So, now to determine the LSSJ multiplier/boost:

LSSJ Broly (M10)>>SSJ2 Gohan>SSJ Broly>>Base Gohan

Some believe that Base Gohan was on par with or stronger than SSJ Broly, however, this requires an incredibly low SSJ multiplier for Broly, or a very high power for Gohan. Assuming Gohan is 2x stronger than Base Broly, then Broly's SSJ multiplier would be 2x or less. If Base Gohan was 20x stronger than Base Broly, SSJ is a 20x multiplier. Either Broly's SSJ multiplier is low for this to work, or Gohan is haxed for this to work, which is why it is more likely that SSJ Broly was screwing around with Gohan.

So, assuming that at the very least, Base Broly was on par with Base Gohan, then SSJ Broly>Base Gohan. SSJ multiplier should be at about 15x, so SSJ Broly, at the very least, was 15x stronger than Gohan. Gohan then went SSJ2, which is, at the very least, about 4x SSJ, so he should have been 4x stronger than Broly. So, LSSJ has to be atleast 4x SSJ, and considering the gap between LSSJ Broly and SSJ2 Gohan, it should be about 10x SSJ.

So, if 10x SSJ=LSSJ, then LSSJ3=10x SSJ3. Just LSSJ Broly>>>SSJ2 Gohan. LSSJ2 should be 10x SSJ2, or 40x LSSJ, and finally, assuming SSJ3 is at the minimum, 10x SSJ2, LSSJ3 should be 400x LSSJ. Back to that original power chain, but expanded:

Fat Boo<SSJ3 Goku</=LSSJ Broly (M10)<<SSJ3 Gotenks</=Super Boo<Chou Gohan<Bootenks<<Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta

400x LSSJ Broly should definitely not be enough to take out SSJ Gogeta, as Chou Gohan alone is about 1000x SSJ3 Goku.

Broly LSSJ5

Feb 29 2012, 01:33 AM

Flying Nimbus

Feb 29 2012, 01:13 AM

Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta<<SSJ Vegito

(problem Gogeta fans?)

But really, I've proved this in two other threads anyway, so disregarding the difference between Gogeta and Vegito, we can still say SSJ Gogeta is stronger than Boohan

Fat Boo</=LSSJ Broly (M10)<<Super Boo<Bootenks<<Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta

So, now to determine the LSSJ multiplier/boost:

LSSJ Broly (M10)>>SSJ2 Gohan>SSJ Broly>>Base Gohan

Some believe that Base Gohan was on par with or stronger than SSJ Broly, however, this requires an incredibly low SSJ multiplier for Broly, or a very high power for Gohan. Assuming Gohan is 2x stronger than Base Broly, then Broly's SSJ multiplier would be 2x or less. If Base Gohan was 20x stronger than Base Broly, SSJ is a 20x multiplier. Either Broly's SSJ multiplier is low for this to work, or Gohan is haxed for this to work, which is why it is more likely that SSJ Broly was screwing around with Gohan.

So, assuming that at the very least, Base Broly was on par with Base Gohan, then SSJ Broly>Base Gohan. SSJ multiplier should be at about 15x, so SSJ Broly, at the very least, was 15x stronger than Gohan. Gohan then went SSJ2, which is, at the very least, about 4x SSJ, so he should have been 4x stronger than Broly. So, LSSJ has to be atleast 4x SSJ, and considering the gap between LSSJ Broly and SSJ2 Gohan, it should be about 10x SSJ.

So, if 10x SSJ=LSSJ, then LSSJ3=10x SSJ3. Just LSSJ Broly>>>SSJ2 Gohan. LSSJ2 should be 10x SSJ2, or 40x LSSJ, and finally, assuming SSJ3 is at the minimum, 10x SSJ2, LSSJ3 should be 400x LSSJ. Back to that original power chain, but expanded:

Fat Boo<SSJ3 Goku</=LSSJ Broly (M10)<<SSJ3 Gotenks</=Super Boo<Chou Gohan<Bootenks<<Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta

400x LSSJ Broly should definitely not be enough to take out SSJ Gogeta, as Chou Gohan alone is about 1000x SSJ3 Goku.

I would just like to point out how Broly's power continuously rises. If he started the fight at 400x LSSJ, then his power would keep increasing. It might not be enough to over power Gogeta, but it might keep Broly alive long enough for the Fusion Dance to wear out. I will admit that I am a Broly fan and that while I could follow what you were saying with the different powers being stronger than each other, I did not understand it enough to mount a counter argument. So I'm not saying that you're wrong here. Your logic seems sound and I'm not going to disagree with it. BUT, Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyajin. The traits of the LSSJ form are perfectly matched with the weaknesses of the SSJ3 form. Even if his opponent was stronger than him, Broly is still almost indestructible, and if Gogeta didn't go all out in the first few minutes, then Broly might get the upper hand. At this point I'm no longer on either side, but I am really interested to see this fight unfold.

Flying Nimbus

Feb 29 2012, 02:08 AM

Broly LSSJ5

Feb 29 2012, 01:33 AM

Flying Nimbus

Feb 29 2012, 01:13 AM

Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta<<SSJ Vegito

(problem Gogeta fans?)

But really, I've proved this in two other threads anyway, so disregarding the difference between Gogeta and Vegito, we can still say SSJ Gogeta is stronger than Boohan

Fat Boo</=LSSJ Broly (M10)<<Super Boo<Bootenks<<Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta

So, now to determine the LSSJ multiplier/boost:

LSSJ Broly (M10)>>SSJ2 Gohan>SSJ Broly>>Base Gohan

Some believe that Base Gohan was on par with or stronger than SSJ Broly, however, this requires an incredibly low SSJ multiplier for Broly, or a very high power for Gohan. Assuming Gohan is 2x stronger than Base Broly, then Broly's SSJ multiplier would be 2x or less. If Base Gohan was 20x stronger than Base Broly, SSJ is a 20x multiplier. Either Broly's SSJ multiplier is low for this to work, or Gohan is haxed for this to work, which is why it is more likely that SSJ Broly was screwing around with Gohan.

So, assuming that at the very least, Base Broly was on par with Base Gohan, then SSJ Broly>Base Gohan. SSJ multiplier should be at about 15x, so SSJ Broly, at the very least, was 15x stronger than Gohan. Gohan then went SSJ2, which is, at the very least, about 4x SSJ, so he should have been 4x stronger than Broly. So, LSSJ has to be atleast 4x SSJ, and considering the gap between LSSJ Broly and SSJ2 Gohan, it should be about 10x SSJ.

So, if 10x SSJ=LSSJ, then LSSJ3=10x SSJ3. Just LSSJ Broly>>>SSJ2 Gohan. LSSJ2 should be 10x SSJ2, or 40x LSSJ, and finally, assuming SSJ3 is at the minimum, 10x SSJ2, LSSJ3 should be 400x LSSJ. Back to that original power chain, but expanded:

Fat Boo<SSJ3 Goku</=LSSJ Broly (M10)<<SSJ3 Gotenks</=Super Boo<Chou Gohan<Bootenks<<Boohan</=SSJ Gogeta

400x LSSJ Broly should definitely not be enough to take out SSJ Gogeta, as Chou Gohan alone is about 1000x SSJ3 Goku.

I would just like to point out how Broly's power continuously rises. If he started the fight at 400x LSSJ, then his power would keep increasing. It might not be enough to over power Gogeta, but it might keep Broly alive long enough for the Fusion Dance to wear out. I will admit that I am a Broly fan and that while I could follow what you were saying with the different powers being stronger than each other, I did not understand it enough to mount a counter argument. So I'm not saying that you're wrong here. Your logic seems sound and I'm not going to disagree with it. BUT, Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyajin. The traits of the LSSJ form are perfectly matched with the weaknesses of the SSJ3 form. Even if his opponent was stronger than him, Broly is still almost indestructible, and if Gogeta didn't go all out in the first few minutes, then Broly might get the upper hand. At this point I'm no longer on either side, but I am really interested to see this fight unfold.

Oh, the fact the Broly's power continuously rises is a bad dub line. In the original Japanese version, he says that his ki is replenished. His ki can only be replenished back to his maximum power, not further than that.

Saberoph

Feb 29 2012, 06:19 AM

I don't see how Broli's SS3 Multiplier could possibly be higher than the Fusion Dance, then the Rival Boast, then MSS, do you realize Broli's SS3 Multiplier would have to be higher than Three combined...That's beyond silly!

MSS Gogeta lets out one large belch which causes Broli it explode.

Saberoph

Feb 29 2012, 07:51 AM

But why would he? Goten and Trunks were not rivals...they were friends, not rivals. So, seeing that Goten and Trunks are not rivals, Goku would have no need to even mention a rival boast.

Saberoph

Feb 29 2012, 08:16 AM

Then there are only two ways to explain it.

One, there is no rival boast with the Dance. Or, Goku didn't have any knowledge of this and nor did the person who taught this to him. And since this Thread is about Movie characters, King Kaioshin didn't teach nor tell Goku about absorbing the Genkai Dama, yet Goku could,