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Can any DBZ character survive a black hole?
Topic Started: Feb 22 2012, 10:21 AM (8,961 Views)
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Just to avoid getting banned to continue my hidden trolling, wasn't Raditz being faster than the speed of light only stated in the dub?
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Mysterious9001
Feb 24 2012, 04:50 AM
Just to avoid getting banned to continue my hidden trolling, wasn't Raditz being faster than the speed of light only stated in the dub?
Does it matter? Dub is just as valid as the original.
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You've got a lot to learn padiwan.
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Well if you take into consideration Piccolo's makankosappo being faster than light, then yeah, most DBZ characters are thousands of times faster than light and should be able to escape a black hole.

Also SSJ4 Goku had some reality warping powers. He was temporarily able to defy the Dragonballs by turning into an adult through the sheer power of the transformation. SSJ4 Goku and any other characters on par with him should be able to escape a black hole.
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No, no one could survive a black hole
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Feb 23 2012, 02:54 PM
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Feb 23 2012, 02:35 PM
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Feb 23 2012, 03:47 AM
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Feb 23 2012, 12:50 AM
Define being alive then, we too are a combination of liquids and gases,electrical impulses, and become that when we die. Our purpose is to consume,defecate and reproduce more of the same, at least the sun has a nourishing purpose for the earth. We do not.
The sun is not conscious.
you're aware of this are you?

we cant even get off this rock, we arent much more conscious than moss. Only use 10 to 15% of our brains. We arent even fully functional as it is. We hardly rule all.
No.
Just...no.

We use all of our brains, if we didn't we'd be pointless creatures, it's a bull popular myth that we only use 10% of our brains, can you imagine if that was true? Evolution would, there and then, be a farce. No creature would evolve a brain which is 85-90% mush. The Sun is not conscious, it is merely (and I say that with the greatest respect for such things) a giant ball of plasma where hydrogen is being fused into helium at temperatures which are frankly disturbing.

As for black hole survival, well if they can stop themselves from being ripped apart Gogeta should be able to make a good go of it with Instantaneous Transmission, since time is....funny in black holes it's hard to say what would actually happen. Odds are by the time they'd raised their fingers to forehead and done it thousands of years, more, could have passed for the rest of the universe...

As for moving faster than light, doesn't Raditz move faster than light? Or is that a dub mistake? I swear Piccolo claims he does when using Special Beam Cannon for the first time. Regardless it's irrelevant, the real threat is the sheer pull on your body, it would tear you apart. Given their ability to survive anything else though a hyper powerful being like Gogeta should be okay.
Whew, thank you, I was just about to type something out to lines of that, but then I saw that you did it. Humans are conscious, the sun is not.

Anyway, back to the discussion. Raditz, at the very most, was on par with the speed of the bullet of a shotgun, seeing as he caught one. Raditz had a PL of 1500. The slowest shotgun bullet would be at about a speed of about 335 meters per second.

Now, just because you can catch a football going at 40 mph, doesn't mean you can actually go 40 mph, so let's just cut 335 into a fourth.

This would give us the speed of Raditz at about 84 meters per second. In other words, 188 mph.

The largest PL given to us in DBZ is Goku's SSJ PL of 150,000,000, stated in the Daizenshuu.

188 mph~PL of 1500
18,800,000 mph~PL of 150,000,000

The speed of light is about 670,616,629 mph.

670,616,629/18,800,000~36

Assuming SSJ4 Gogeta is atleast 36x stronger than SSJ Goku (he is), he has broken the barrier of light. As have many, many, many other characters in DBZ who have surpassed being 36x stronger than SSJ Goku (Namek).

Now, being so much faster than light probably helps you escape a black hole, which I why I now have quite a few DBZ characters being able to move faster than light, and being able to resist a black hole.
I dont know WHERE you learned your version of science, but in the real world? the amount of space we use in our brain isnt an arguable hypothesis. Its been well mapped and documented.

SSJ4 gogeta: grow up, if you think im making an argument the sun has life you are taking this wayyyy out of context, and frankly its a little annoying, grow a pair and realize what im telling you, cause you cant PROVE anything you just said.

YOU cant PROVE the sun has no consciousness.

Hugga bear: WOW, just wow, making statements like they're fact when its clearly based on opinion is garbage and uninformative.

NO creature can live? huh?

The majority of our brain is for storage space. The brain has 4 main areas, and even though each one has a separate function? the space each function uses is limited.

There are more dormant areas of the human brain than can be explained as they seemingly have no purpose, so i think we operate just fine. How that would make us pointless as our only function is to grow, defecate and reproduce? i hardly see why you think we have such a grand purpose.
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Feb 25 2012, 03:47 AM
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Feb 23 2012, 02:54 PM
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Feb 23 2012, 02:35 PM
Ninjajp247
Feb 23 2012, 03:47 AM
Gogeta SSJ4
Feb 23 2012, 01:05 AM
Ninjajp247
Feb 23 2012, 12:50 AM
Define being alive then, we too are a combination of liquids and gases,electrical impulses, and become that when we die. Our purpose is to consume,defecate and reproduce more of the same, at least the sun has a nourishing purpose for the earth. We do not.
The sun is not conscious.
you're aware of this are you?

we cant even get off this rock, we arent much more conscious than moss. Only use 10 to 15% of our brains. We arent even fully functional as it is. We hardly rule all.
No.
Just...no.

We use all of our brains, if we didn't we'd be pointless creatures, it's a bull popular myth that we only use 10% of our brains, can you imagine if that was true? Evolution would, there and then, be a farce. No creature would evolve a brain which is 85-90% mush. The Sun is not conscious, it is merely (and I say that with the greatest respect for such things) a giant ball of plasma where hydrogen is being fused into helium at temperatures which are frankly disturbing.

As for black hole survival, well if they can stop themselves from being ripped apart Gogeta should be able to make a good go of it with Instantaneous Transmission, since time is....funny in black holes it's hard to say what would actually happen. Odds are by the time they'd raised their fingers to forehead and done it thousands of years, more, could have passed for the rest of the universe...

As for moving faster than light, doesn't Raditz move faster than light? Or is that a dub mistake? I swear Piccolo claims he does when using Special Beam Cannon for the first time. Regardless it's irrelevant, the real threat is the sheer pull on your body, it would tear you apart. Given their ability to survive anything else though a hyper powerful being like Gogeta should be okay.
Whew, thank you, I was just about to type something out to lines of that, but then I saw that you did it. Humans are conscious, the sun is not.

Anyway, back to the discussion. Raditz, at the very most, was on par with the speed of the bullet of a shotgun, seeing as he caught one. Raditz had a PL of 1500. The slowest shotgun bullet would be at about a speed of about 335 meters per second.

Now, just because you can catch a football going at 40 mph, doesn't mean you can actually go 40 mph, so let's just cut 335 into a fourth.

This would give us the speed of Raditz at about 84 meters per second. In other words, 188 mph.

The largest PL given to us in DBZ is Goku's SSJ PL of 150,000,000, stated in the Daizenshuu.

188 mph~PL of 1500
18,800,000 mph~PL of 150,000,000

The speed of light is about 670,616,629 mph.

670,616,629/18,800,000~36

Assuming SSJ4 Gogeta is atleast 36x stronger than SSJ Goku (he is), he has broken the barrier of light. As have many, many, many other characters in DBZ who have surpassed being 36x stronger than SSJ Goku (Namek).

Now, being so much faster than light probably helps you escape a black hole, which I why I now have quite a few DBZ characters being able to move faster than light, and being able to resist a black hole.
I dont know WHERE you learned your version of science, but in the real world? the amount of space we use in our brain isnt an arguable hypothesis. Its been well mapped and documented.

SSJ4 gogeta: grow up, if you think im making an argument the sun has life you are taking this wayyyy out of context, and frankly its a little annoying, grow a pair and realize what im telling you, cause you cant PROVE anything you just said.

YOU cant PROVE the sun has no consciousness.

Hugga bear: WOW, just wow, making statements like their fact when its clearly based on opinion makes no sense.

NO creature can live? huh?

The majority of our brain is for storage space. The brain has 4 main areas, and even though each one has a separate function? the space each function uses is limited.

There are more dormant areas of the human brain than can be explained as they seemingly have no purpose, so i think we operate just fine. How that would make us pointless as out only function is to grow, defectae and reproduce, i hardly see why you think we have such a grand purpose.
Well then, back to some elementary school science!

-All biologists follow the Cell Theory
-The Cell Theory states that all living things are made out of cells
-The Sun is not made out of cells
-GTFO this thread
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basic science, the sun isnt made of cells? exaclty WHERE do you go to school, and WHO is your language arts teacher? clearly reading comprehension wasnt a study you took seriosuly, GTFO of the forum. Crack a book. Stay of wikipedia.

every carbon based life form is made up of atoms, by the way, WHO told YOU that cells are the dominant feature for having a consciousness? YOU?

:lol: try again.

So im gonna go out on a limb here and say that YOU think ANTS are self aware? WHY because they have cells? LOLOLOL, stay in school nimbus, god help you.
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Feb 25 2012, 03:54 AM
basic science, the sun isnt made of cells? exaclty WHERE do you go to school, and WHO is your language arts teacher? clearly reading comprehension wasnt a study you took seriosuly, GTFO of the forum. Crack a book. Stay of wikipedia.
I'm laughing my a-- off right now. You believe the sun is made out of cells? Just... wow. I... forget it.

Scientifically speaking, a cell is defined as cytoplasm surrounded by a cell membrane, and in this cytoplasm, there are organelles. The sun is not made out of these cells.

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every carbon based life form is made up of atoms, by the way, WHO told YOU that cells are the dominant feature for having a consciousness? YOU?

try again.

So im gonna go out on a limb here and say that YOU think ANTS are self aware? WHY because they have cells? LOLOLOL, stay in school nimbus, god help you.


Who said that cells are the dominant features for being conscious? By now you're taking my words and twisting them. I said that 'all living things have cells'. Please, quit trolling.
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There isn't any evidence that only 10-20 percent of the human brain is used.
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once again, reading comp....is lost, i was being sarcastic, and you telling me your text book definition isnt helping your case any.

The sun doesnt have to have a consiousness, the fact you guys are willing to keep up this dumb argument when i was being sarcastic to being with is just funny.

However, YOU still cant prove the sun doesnt live. Just like its impossible for you to prove that the earth doesnt. See the conundrum assuming you know the truth has? You dont have a clue.
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Feb 25 2012, 03:57 AM
There isn't any evidence that only 10-20 percent of the human brain is used.
wrong, speak to a neurologist, its common knowledge, do i really need to go here and bring a link NOT leading you guys into conspirracy theory territory? cause it sounds like thats where this is headed.
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Feb 25 2012, 04:00 AM
once again, reading comp....is lost, i was being sarcastic, and you telling me your text book definition isnt helping your case any.

The sun doesnt have to have a consiousness, the fact you guys are willing to keep up this dumb argument when i was being sarcastic to being with is just funny.

However, YOU still cant prove the sun doesnt live. Just like its impossible for you to prove that the earth doesnt. See the conundrum assuming you know the truth has? You dont have a clue.
Ah, of course, the 'sarcasm' cop out. You've clearly stated several times in this thread that you believed the sun is alive. Whatever, I guess I'll just quit the argument seeing that you were being 'sarcastic'.

EDIT: well here we go: Here is some evidence proving you wrong.
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Not once did i say the sun was alive and you wont find a quote to prove it, so stop paraphrasing and read this link im dropping.

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There isn't any evidence that only 10-20 percent of the human brain is used.
wrong, speak to a neurologist, its common knowledge, do i really need to go here and bring a link NOT leading you guys into conspirracy theory territory? cause it sounds like thats where this is headed.
Eh? When you look it up neurologists all say it's not true.
My psychology teacher also claimed that it's a myth.
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