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Animal Abuse
Tweet Topic Started: Feb 22 2012, 03:29 AM (1,692 Views)
~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Feb 22 2012, 04:04 AM Post #16
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I would rather have laws than have none. That's ridiculous.



SirParagon	Feb 22 2012, 04:06 AM Post #17
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Laws are simply not solutions, we're lead to believe they are through constant propaganda - It is important to realize that. The true function of laws is to empower the rulers and the wealthy by placing shackles over the populous and creating moral exceptions for themselves. Edited by SirParagon, Feb 22 2012, 04:09 AM.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Feb 22 2012, 04:08 AM Post #18
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	If someone in my family was murdered, I would want their murderer to be locked away so that they couldn't harm anyone else.



SirParagon	Feb 22 2012, 04:10 AM Post #19
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	ObsessiveFanGirl Feb 22 2012, 04:08 AM If someone in my family was murdered, I would want their murderer to be locked away so that they couldn't harm anyone else. I fail to see how that address the issue of laws actually preventing anything. It's just revenge. Violence cannot be used to stop violence. Edited by SirParagon, Feb 22 2012, 04:12 AM.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Feb 22 2012, 04:11 AM Post #20
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Locking up someone would prevent them from murdering more people.



+ Pelador	Feb 22 2012, 04:13 AM Post #21
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	As much as I'd love to discuss politics regarding ideal social structures, we should try to remember that this is a topic about animal rights and not human ones lol. Now back on topic... what does everyone think about whaling? I think it's completely unnesacary and horrible the way it's done. Harpooned and dragged trhough the water until it's drowned. Whereas other meat products like pigs and cows are briefly electrocuted with prods. These animals are basically slowly tortured before being turned into sushi.
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SirParagon	Feb 22 2012, 04:13 AM Post #22
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	ObsessiveFanGirl Feb 22 2012, 04:11 AM Locking up someone would prevent them from murdering more people. Perhaps, but it completely fails to address other potential murderers scattered within society (due to child abuse and/or neglect) and at the same time forcing the rest of the population to pay to keep these people alive through extortion (taxation). Edited by SirParagon, Feb 22 2012, 04:19 AM.
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Cal	Feb 22 2012, 04:14 AM Post #23
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	SirParagon Feb 22 2012, 04:01 AM ObsessiveFanGirl Feb 22 2012, 04:00 AM SirParagon Feb 22 2012, 03:58 AM Don't you guys realize that putting stricter, more violent laws in place is in the exact same parenting mentality that contributed toward the tendency for certain people to abuse animals? Does it not seem ridiculous? It is no solution. Why shouldn't there be laws put in place? There are strict laws against murdering humans. Why not animals? I don't see how laws caused parents to bring up their children poorly. Well then, do the laws regarding murder actually stop murder? Not exactly a solution. Imposed laws do have an enormous effect on how parents view the world and treat their kids. A good point. I think it's kind of stupid for someone to abuse an animal, I think it's undeniably worse to worry about rocks being thrown at squirrels when kids are being abused more and more even though more regulations are falling into place.. Oh, by the way, these are ONLY kids who have died due to abuse per day based on years, not kids that have just been abused. See if you see a trend... in the United States alone, more than 6 million kids are abused a year, I think prioritization is indeed important.. Oh and it's not like these numbers reflect the millions of abuse that go unreported each year.. Edited by Cal, Feb 22 2012, 04:15 AM.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Feb 22 2012, 04:19 AM Post #24
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I never said that animal abuse was worse than child abuse. This is simply a thread about animals.



+ Pyrus	Feb 22 2012, 04:19 AM Post #25
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Pelador Feb 22 2012, 04:13 AM As much as I'd love to discuss politics regarding ideal social structures, we should try to remember that this is a topic about animal rights and not human ones lol. Now back on topic... what does everyone think about whaling? I think it's completely unnesacary and horrible the way it's done. Harpooned and dragged trhough the water until it's drowned. Whereas other meat products like pigs and cows are briefly electrocuted with prods. These animals are basically slowly tortured before being turned into sushi. I agree. I don't think it's executed humanely. There has to be a less violent way to do it. I can't watch Animal Planet sometimes when they have those shows with the hurt or abused animals. Makes me really angry. I don't think I can even really watch entire movies with animals dying, unless it's off-screen or something. But to most, I'm weird.
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SirParagon	Feb 22 2012, 04:21 AM Post #26
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Animal abuse is directly linked to child abuse, you cannot dismiss the latter as off-topic. I'm also sure that graph Cal posted in no way relates to increased government regulation sarcasm. Would be nice to know for sure, although I have little doubt. Edited by SirParagon, Feb 22 2012, 04:25 AM.
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+ Pelador	Feb 22 2012, 04:24 AM Post #27
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	No I agree with you. I can't watch anything regarding cruelty to animals. I don't even like the RSPCA adverts they show. This man has an epic voice.
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Cal	Feb 22 2012, 04:24 AM Post #28
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	ObsessiveFanGirl Feb 22 2012, 04:19 AM I never said that animal abuse was worse than child abuse. This is simply a thread about animals. You made the thread rhetorical... I mean who is going to support animal abuse? At least by expanding it like Paragon did, the discussion can have more replies that aren't "I can't believe kids treat animals this way, it's OMG wrong..." My post wasn't directed at you either (didn't mean for it to be if it seemed like it), just backing a great point by Paragon. Edited by Cal, Feb 22 2012, 04:25 AM.



Meowth	Feb 22 2012, 04:28 AM Post #29
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	This topic is about Animal Abuse, nothing else, that is the specified scope of the topic. Any further posts off topic will result in warnings being issued. I hope I have made myself clear.



Krystal	Feb 22 2012, 04:32 AM Post #30
Cooking Mama Posts: 1,728 Group: Member Member #7,091 Joined: December 19, 2011 Gender Female Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Gantz, Madoka, Gankutsuou, Full Metal Alchemist Favourite Manga Elfen Lied	I think abuse in any form is one of the worst things a person can live though, and I'm actually going to law school in order to become a divorce attorney specializing in child advocacy. However, since this is about animals, I'll stick to them. Alright. So animal abuse is actually one of the earliest indicators of the psychopathic personality trait. If a kid gets his or her jollies from pulling wings off of butterflies as a kid, WATCH THEM. Sometimes, they don't understand the frailty of life. Other times though, this will escalate into hurting kittens, dogs, etc. Why? To be honest, there are a whole host of reasons. It's very possible that the child is angry and hurting makes them feel better. Perhaps due to some circumstances, they feel powerless and need to exert dominance over something weaker. Or maybe it's fun. Either way, something is wrong. I think that instead of just punishing adult offenders, permanent records should be made of children abusing animals. Sometimes the parents are in denial about what there kid is doing, but a whole rap sheet doesn't lie. If caught early enough, I bet the kid could be helped. But so many times when people are penalized for animal abuse, it's when they're adults. The damage is done by then,.



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