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Sylentknyte's Power Level's
Topic Started: Feb 13 2012, 02:16 AM (2,015 Views)
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I worked on this for a while, and I did the best I could. I know there are a million and one PL lists out there, but please tell me what you think! I based the list 100% off my judgement, didn't take any inspiration from the lists of others (besides ways to organize the list), or any "official" lists out there. I may do some movies and other things later. If I missed anything important, please let me know.

Trunks saga

Vegeta: 3,000,000
Piccolo (max w/o weights): 2,500,000
Tien: 145,000
Chaoitzu: 35,000
Krillen: 175,000
Yamcha: 73,000
Gohan: 310,000

Trunks (base): 4,500,000
SSJ Trunks: 225,000,000
Goku: 5,000,000
SSJ Goku: 250,000,000

Mecha Frieza (50%): 75,000,000
Mecha Frieza (100%): 150,000,000
King Cold: 70,000,000
Frieza's men: 500 – 2,000 each

3 years later

Tien: 2,500,000
Chaoitzu: 150,000
Krillen: 2,000,000
Yamcha: 1,075,000
Gohan: 23,000,000
Yajirobe: 910

Goku: 33,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 330,000,000 (Dropping)
[Kamehameha]: 200,000,000

Vegeta: 35,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 350,000,000
[Big Bang Attack]: 400,000,000

Piccolo (suppressed): 27,500,000
[w/o weights, full power]: 275,000,000
[weakened by #20]: 250,000,000

Android 20: 180,000,000
[Ki from Yamcha & Piccolo]: 206,075,000
Android 19: 90,000,000
[Goku's Ki]: 290,000,000

Imperfect Cell Saga

Android 17: 445,000,000
Android 18: 440,000,000
Android 16: 560,000,000

Future Trunks: 25,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 250,000,000

Piccolo [max]: 275,000,000
[Kamiccolo, weights]: 300,000,000
[Kamiccolo, max]: 450,000,000

Imperfect Cell: 280,000,000
[Human's absorbed]: 580,000,000

Semi-Perfect Cell: 1,225,000,000

Tien: 3,000,000
[Neo-Tri Beam]: 600,000,000 each
Krillen: 2,750,000
Goku (healed): 40,000,000

Vegeta (Rosat): 120,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 1,200,000,000
[SSJ Gr.2]: 1,800,000,000
[Final Flash]: 3,600,000,000

Trunks (Rosat): 105,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 1,050,000,000
[SSJ Gr.2]: 1,575,000,000
[SSJ Gr. 3]: 2,625,000,000

Initial Perfect Cell: 2,500,000,000
[Mocking Trunks]: 5,000,000,000

Cell Games Saga

Tien: 3,500,000
Krillen: 3,000,000
Yamcha: 1,500,000
Mr. Satan: 12
Android 16: 600,000,000
Android 18: 440,000,000

Goku: 830,000,000
[SSJ, relaxed]: 1,245,000,000
[MSSJ]: 12,450,000,000
[Warp Kamehameha]: 20,000,000,000
[MSSJ, Exhausted]: 4,000,000,000

Perfect Cell: 2,500,000,000
[vs. Goku]: 10,000,000,000
[serious vs. Goku]: 15,000,000,000

Piccolo (Rosat): 625,000,000
[w/weights, max]: 6,250,000,000

Trunks (Rosat 2): 725,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 7,250,000,000

Vegeta (Rosat 2): 750,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 7,500,000,000
[Big Bang Attack (Cell)]: 10,000,000,000

Cell Jr.'s: 8,000,000,000 each

Gohan: 950,000,000
[SSJ, relaxed]: 1,425,000,000
[MSSJ, max]: 14,250,000,000
[MSSJ, anger]: 18,250,000,000
[Super Saiyan 2]: 95,000,000,000
[Injured]: 45,000,000,000
[Kamehameha]: 90,000,000,000
[Max Kamehameha]: 190,000,000,000

Perfect Cell
[Serious vs. Gohan]: 15,000,000,000
[Max]: 22,000,000,000
[Uber Cell]: 44,000,000,000
Semi-Cell: 1,225,000,000
[Self-Destruct]: 12,250,000,000
Super-Perfect Cell: 90,000,000,000
[Kamehameha]: 180,000,000,000

23rd Budokai

Roshi: 135
Krillen: 4,000,000
18: 440,000,000
Yamcha: 1,000,000

Piccolo: 750,000,000
[w/o weights]: 7,500,000,000
East Kaioshin: 850,000,000
Kibito: 50,000,000
Videl: 21
Spopovitch: 30
Yamu: 32

Gohan: 800,000,000

Goten: 390,000,000
[SSJ]: 3,900,000,000

Trunks: 400,000,000
[SSJ]: 4,000,000,000

Babadi Saga:

Goku: 2,150,000,000
[MSSJ]: 32,250,000,000

Vegeta: 1,050,000,000
[MSSJ]: 15,750,000,000
[SSJ2]: 105,000,000,000

Gohan: 800,000,000
[MSSJ]: 12,000,000,000

Babadi: 3.1
[Magic]: 5,000,000,000
Pui Pui: 135,000,000
Yakon: 2,000,000,000
Dabura: 11,500,000,000
[Sword]: 13,000,000,000

Majin Buu Saga

Gohan: 800,000,000
[MSSJ]: 12,000,000,000
[SSJ2]: 80,000,000,000

East Kaioshin: 850,000,000

Goku: 2,150,000,000
[MSSJ]: 32,250,000,000
[SSJ 2]: 215,000,000,000
[SSJ 3]: 967,500,000,000

Majin Vegeta: 2,100,000,000
[MSSJ]: 31,500,000,000
[SSJ 2]: 210,000,000,000
[Kamikaze]: 630,000,000,000

Gotenks: 79,000,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 790,000,000,000

Majin Buu: 850,000,000,000
Evil Buu: 500,000,000,000
Mr. Buu: 350,000,000,000

Super Buu: 8,500,000,000,000

Super Buu Saga:

Tien: 124,000,000
[Neo-Tri-Beam]: 24,800,000,000
Chiaotzu: 2,100,000
Mr, Satan: 12
Dende: 332

Piccolo (Rosat): 9,500,000,000
Goten (Rosat): 500,000,000
Trunks (Rosat): 510,000,000

Gotenks: 101,000,000,000
[MSSJ]: 1,515,000,000,000
[SSJ 3]: 9,250,000,000,000

Gohan (post Z sword) : 8,000,000,000
[MSSJ]: 120,000,000,000
[SSJ2]: 800,000,000,000
Ultimate Gohan: 12,000,000,000,000

Super Buu: 8,500,000,000,000
[Max]: 9,500,000,000,000
[Piccolo-Buu]: 9,509,500,000,000
[Gotenks-Buu]: 18,759,500,000,000
[Gohan-Buu]: 30,759,500,000,000


Goku: 2,550,000,000
[SSJ 3]: 1,114,750,000,000

Vegeta: 2,100,000,000
[SSJ 2]: 210,000,000,000

Vegito: 2,325,000,000,000
[MSSJ]: 34,875,000,000,000

Kid Buu Saga:

Kibito-Kai: 450,000,000,000
Elder Kaioshin: 25,000,000
East Kaioshin: 850,000,000
West Kaioshin: 750,000,000
North Kaioshin: 1,500,000,000
South Kaioshin: 850,000,000,000
Buff Buu: 11,000,000,000,000

Vegeta: 2,200,000,000
[MSSJ]: 33,000,000,000
[SSJ 2]: 220,000,000,000

Mr. Buu: 350,000,000,000

Goku: 2,600,000,000
[MSSJ]: 39,000,000,000
[SSJ 3]: 1,170,000,000,000
[SSJ 3, tired]: 900,000,000,000
[Genki Dama]: 10,000,000,000,000

Kid Buu: 1,150,000,000,000

End of Z

Krillen: 2,500,000
18: 440,000,000
Yamcha: 850,000
Roshi: 122
Chi Chi: 68
Tien: 144,000,000
Chiaotzu: 6,000,000
Piccolo [max]: 10,000,000,000
Dende: 23,000,000
Gohan: 9,000,000,000,000
Videl: 24
Pan: 1,300,000
Mr. Satan: 9.3
Goten: 2,000,000,000
[MSSJ]: 30,000,000,000
Trunks: 2,050,000,000
[MSSJ]: 30,750,000,000
Vegeta: 60,000,000,000

Goku: 90,000,000,000

Uub: 13
[Potential]: 85,000,000,000

Multiplier's:
Initial SSJ: 50x
SSJ: 10x
MSSJ: 15x
SSJ 2: 100x
SSJ 3: No multiplier, based on potential
Neo-Tri-Beam: 200x
Max-Energy Blast: 2x, more or less
Fusion Dance: PL's added, x100
Potara Fusion: PL's Added, x500

Notes:
- I feel Eastern Kaishin is more powerful than weighted Piccolo, but not his max.
- Imo, Goten and Trunks become MSSJ's in the RoSaT
- Some feel SSJ and MSSJ are the same. I feel MSSJ is the absolute mastery of SSJ, so it raises the multiplier. The raised multiplier actually made sense as I did the levels. Many things fell into place.
Edited by sylentknyte, Feb 13 2012, 04:48 PM.
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I take it you don't believe in a high tanking gap, or technique amplification.
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One thing I noticed is that shouldn't Semi-Perfect Cell be stronger than Post 1st Rosat SSJ Vegeta?
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Feb 13 2012, 02:42 AM
One thing I noticed is that shouldn't Semi-Perfect Cell be stronger than Post 1st Rosat SSJ Vegeta?
Not imo. I have SSJ Gr.2 as a 15x multi, with some reduction in speed. Vegeta was completley toying with Semi-Cell in Gr.2, and putting him in his place. In SSJ, he would actually have to break a sweat, but he would defeat him all the same.
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Feb 13 2012, 02:45 AM
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Feb 13 2012, 02:42 AM
One thing I noticed is that shouldn't Semi-Perfect Cell be stronger than Post 1st Rosat SSJ Vegeta?
Not imo. I have SSJ Gr.2 as a 15x multi, with some reduction in speed. Vegeta was completley toying with Semi-Cell in Gr.2, and putting him in his place. In SSJ, he would actually have to break a sweat, but he would defeat him all the same.
Grade 2 doesn't reduce speed. It's stated to increase it in Daizenshuu #7.
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Feb 13 2012, 02:51 AM
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Feb 13 2012, 02:45 AM
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Feb 13 2012, 02:42 AM
One thing I noticed is that shouldn't Semi-Perfect Cell be stronger than Post 1st Rosat SSJ Vegeta?
Not imo. I have SSJ Gr.2 as a 15x multi, with some reduction in speed. Vegeta was completley toying with Semi-Cell in Gr.2, and putting him in his place. In SSJ, he would actually have to break a sweat, but he would defeat him all the same.
Grade 2 doesn't reduce speed. It's stated to increase it in Daizenshuu #7.
Alright, well, it doesnt make a difference anyways. The level's are the same, and the answer is basically the same.
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Feb 13 2012, 02:51 AM
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Feb 13 2012, 02:45 AM
KingOfAllSaiyans
Feb 13 2012, 02:42 AM
One thing I noticed is that shouldn't Semi-Perfect Cell be stronger than Post 1st Rosat SSJ Vegeta?
Not imo. I have SSJ Gr.2 as a 15x multi, with some reduction in speed. Vegeta was completley toying with Semi-Cell in Gr.2, and putting him in his place. In SSJ, he would actually have to break a sweat, but he would defeat him all the same.
Grade 2 doesn't reduce speed. It's stated to increase it in Daizenshuu #7.
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op: Semi-Perfect Cell's max power is stronger than SSJ Vegeta (RST 1). I enjoy you actually sharing though.
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Feb 13 2012, 03:05 AM
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Feb 13 2012, 02:51 AM
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Feb 13 2012, 02:45 AM
KingOfAllSaiyans
Feb 13 2012, 02:42 AM
One thing I noticed is that shouldn't Semi-Perfect Cell be stronger than Post 1st Rosat SSJ Vegeta?
Not imo. I have SSJ Gr.2 as a 15x multi, with some reduction in speed. Vegeta was completley toying with Semi-Cell in Gr.2, and putting him in his place. In SSJ, he would actually have to break a sweat, but he would defeat him all the same.
Grade 2 doesn't reduce speed. It's stated to increase it in Daizenshuu #7.
dbgtFO...

op: Semi-Perfect Cell's max power is stronger than SSJ Vegeta (RST 1). I enjoy you actually sharing though.
Fair enough. To fix that I'd only have to bump Semi-Cell up 200 million of so. I might keep the list the way it is, or I may change it. Not sure yet. Thanks for the advice though!

Edit: I bumped Semi-Cell up to 1,225,000,000, and it does look a lot better. Thanks guys!
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Feb 13 2012, 02:33 AM
I take it you don't believe in a high tanking gap, or technique amplification.
I don't really know what you mean by this, but I'll try and explain.

I believe that:
>2x weaker than blast: Death
<2x weaker than the blast: injure
about the same: Harm
Slightly stronger: Enough to harm slightly
more than 2x stronger: Tank (Broly against Goku's kamehameha is a perfect example)

Now, its not an exact science, but DBZ is pretty inconsistent anyways. There are also to many factors to name like the type of technique, the range in which it was fired, how powered-up the person being attacked is, if the other fighter is paying attention, etc. As far as attack multiplyer's go, I think they are mostly random tbh, since Toriyama probably wasnt thinking about that. I use SSJ, and other multi's because they can actually fit, and are usually consistent. SSJ3 was the only one in DBZ that was inconsistent imo.
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More random stuff

Movie 8 PL's

King Kai: 3100
Krillen: 3,000,000
Roshi: 139
[Buff]: 210
Paragus' Men: 50-100 each
Paragus: 3500
[Young]: 1100
King Vegeta: 10,000

Trunks (Rosat 2): 725,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 7,250,000,000

Piccolo (Rosat): 625,000,000
[wo/weights, max]: 6,250,000,000

Vegeta (Rosat 2): 750,000,000
[Super Saiyan]: 7,500,000,000

Gohan: 950,000,000
[MSSJ]: 11,250,000,000

Goku: 830,000,000
[MSSJ]: 12,450,000,000
[Kamehameha]: 20,000,000,000
[Power, wo/Vegeta]: 38,000,000,000
[All Power]: 45,000,000,000

Broly: 1000
[Base, max]: 2,000,000,000
[Initial SSJ]: 10,000,000,000
[SSJ, max]: 20,000,000,000
[LSSJ,max]: 40,000,000,000

Future Trunks:

Vegeta: 3,000,000
Piccolo (max w/o weights): 2,500,000
Tien: 145,000
Chaoitzu: 35,000
Krillen: 175,000
Yamcha: 73,000

Trunks: 1,500,000

Gohan: 25,000,000
[Max]: 250,000,000

Android 17 (suppressed): 300,000,000
Android 18 (suppressed): 295,000,000

Years Later:

Trunks: 2,500,000
[SSJ]: 125,000,000

Gohan: 30,000,000
[SSJ]: 300,000,000
[anger]: 350,000,000

Android 17: 400,000,000
Android 18: 395,000,000
[Double Attack]: 600,000,000

Trunks: 4,500,000
SSJ Trunks: 225,000,000

Post-Cell Games:

Trunks: 850,000,000
[SSJ]: 8,500,000,000

Android 17 [Max]: 445,000,000
Android 18 [Max]: 440,000,000

Imperfect Cell: 280,000,000
[Kamehameha]: 500,000,000

Note: I know Trunks says the Androids are weaker in his time, but I think it is more-so an error in judgement, because he only see's them holding back against Gohan.
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sylentknyte
Feb 13 2012, 03:32 AM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Feb 13 2012, 02:33 AM
I take it you don't believe in a high tanking gap, or technique amplification.
I don't really know what you mean by this, but I'll try and explain.

I believe that:
>2x weaker than blast: Death
<2x weaker than the blast: injure
about the same: Harm
Slightly stronger: Enough to harm slightly
more than 2x stronger: Tank (Broly against Goku's kamehameha is a perfect example)

Now, its not an exact science, but DBZ is pretty inconsistent anyways. There are also to many factors to name like the type of technique, the range in which it was fired, how powered-up the person being attacked is, if the other fighter is paying attention, etc. As far as attack multiplyer's go, I think they are mostly random tbh, since Toriyama probably wasnt thinking about that. I use SSJ, and other multi's because they can actually fit, and are usually consistent. SSJ3 was the only one in DBZ that was inconsistent imo.
He is saying that you dont believe that the Kamehameha multiplies the users power when its used. Or the tri beam or whatever other attack.
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Feb 24 2012, 06:18 PM
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Feb 13 2012, 03:32 AM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Feb 13 2012, 02:33 AM
I take it you don't believe in a high tanking gap, or technique amplification.
I don't really know what you mean by this, but I'll try and explain.

I believe that:
>2x weaker than blast: Death
<2x weaker than the blast: injure
about the same: Harm
Slightly stronger: Enough to harm slightly
more than 2x stronger: Tank (Broly against Goku's kamehameha is a perfect example)

Now, its not an exact science, but DBZ is pretty inconsistent anyways. There are also to many factors to name like the type of technique, the range in which it was fired, how powered-up the person being attacked is, if the other fighter is paying attention, etc. As far as attack multiplyer's go, I think they are mostly random tbh, since Toriyama probably wasnt thinking about that. I use SSJ, and other multi's because they can actually fit, and are usually consistent. SSJ3 was the only one in DBZ that was inconsistent imo.
He is saying that you dont believe that the Kamehameha multiplies the users power when its used. Or the tri beam or whatever other attack.
Well, I guess I kind of believe that. I believe ki-attacks are ki from inside the body, being directed into one stream of power. I believe the power is amplified to greater extents externaly, than it can be internaly.
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How come you don't use a 50x multiplier throughout? Scared of ridicule from the 10x trolls on this site?
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Feb 25 2012, 08:34 AM
How come you don't use a 50x multiplier throughout? Scared of ridicule from the 10x trolls on this site?
He's one of them.
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Feb 25 2012, 08:34 AM
How come you don't use a 50x multiplier throughout? Scared of ridicule from the 10x trolls on this site?
Nah. The only way my levels would have made sense was if the SSJ multi eventually wore down to 10x. Otherwise, it wouldnt have made sense. SSJ2 would have had something like a 1000x multiplier. I think the 10x theory works.
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