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Oh okay, just cuz it's a liberty means guns have to be used in all social situations. Why did I never think about that before? Silly me.
Where did anyone say guns should be used in all social situations?
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And Voltaire, I know full well he could, but that doesn't mean he should.
He was specifically pointing out that you seemed to have something against him using a gun on the laptop. He was telling you that the gun was not the main part-the taking away of her laptop was.
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It's the same principle as when some guys girlfriend goes and smashes up his Xbox cuz he spends a lot of time playing it and she feels he doesn't pay as much attention to her.
No, it's not.
Father's relationship with daughter: must raise her right, must teach her important life lessons, must give her good place to life
Fiance's relationship with fiancee: (love each other?)
The father destroyed it because the daughter did something wrong twice, that if went unchecked, would have probably made her think it was fine to do it, and the father already warned her that the punishment would be worse the second time. More so, the laptop was paid for with the father's own money. He had the right to do what he wanted with it.
In the hypothetical situation you created, the girlfriend smashed up the xbox because the boyfriend did not pay enough attention to her. This likely would not have had a significant effect on his morales and personality if he continued to do it. Even if it did, it was not the girlfriend's responsibility to raise him right. More so, the xbox was likely paid for with the boyfriend's own money, not the girlfriends.
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Instead of vandalising the material object she could just dump the guy and find someone that would appreciate her; point being that smashing ***** up isn't the answer to all of lifes problems, and I see this as fairly trivial and could have been dealt with in a different way.
Solution to boyfriend/girlfriend fight: Dump boyfriend and find someone else
Solution to father/daughter fight: (dump daughter, adopt another one)?
My point is that you are comparing two completely unrelated problems and solutions. How about you tell us how it could have been dealt in a different way?
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If you guys wanna be all like "Woo guns are *****ing awesome" go right ahead, I've said my bit but nobodies prepared to see my side to the arguement at all. Have fun being closed-minded.
No one said guns are awesome, that's a hyperbole. Calling us close-minded is making yourself a hypocrite.
I apologize for my spam, I am totally against spam and I didn't feel it was but it is. Apology accepted? and by the way We are not close minded at least I'm not, I understand you don't approve of the gun usage but that wasn't the me message and yes it could have been handled better.
Knew this was too good to be true, exited topic with everyone agreeing. Dad disciplined child for being spoiled.
Come back to topic few days later.
***** storm.
What the hell Viddy, you are totally making this more about the gun than anything else.
The guns irrelevant. If he wants to use a gun, run the *****ing laptop over or punch the damn thing 'til it's in pieces, that's his own damn decision. IT'S HIS LAPTOP. He can do this. Property works that way.
As for the 'intimidation' thing? Are you serious? Didn't I just have this entire discussion a few months back about how CHILDREN ARE SPOILED? THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. You are advocating for spoiled *****ing brats.
The use of violence to address problems is an admittance of moral weakness and a clear exposure of insecurity. It does way more harm than good (if any good), utterly disgusting. This is just freaking madness, a complete denial of his own mistakes, devoid of any integrity as a parent. Regardless, his choice of action only reinforced his daughter's negative feeling towards him. You don't solve a headache by beating your skull against a brick wall. Shooting the laptop fixed absolutely nothing, it did the exact opposite.
The use of violence to address problems is an admittance of moral weakness and a clear exposure of insecurity. It does way more harm than good (if any good), utterly disgusting. This is just freaking madness, a complete denial of his own mistakes, devoid of any integrity as a parent. Regardless, his choice of action only reinforced his daughter's negative feeling towards him. You don't solve a headache by beating your skull against a brick wall. Shooting the laptop fixed absolutely nothing, it did the exact opposite.
This man was MUCH MUCH forgiving than my parents ever were. Props to him for not smacking the ***** out of her. Spoiled children only see injustice because they never have to work for what they have.
The only way a child learns is to be tossed out on their asses, and from what I saw he's giving her the best taste of cold, harsh, reality.
How is he devoid of any integrity as a parent? He told her what would happen if she slandered her parents again on Facebook.
Oh please, you seriously suggesting that enacting violence is superior to verbal communication when it comes to developing a child's social skills? Also, just a tip, avoid using ad hominems to support a point. In other words, 'she is just a spoiled little brat' does not address anything, it just gives the parent an opinionated pass which excuses his harmful behavior.
The use of violence to address problems is an admittance of moral weakness and a clear exposure of insecurity. It does way more harm than good (if any good), utterly disgusting. This is just freaking madness, a complete denial of his own mistakes, devoid of any integrity as a parent. Regardless, his choice of action only reinforced his daughter's negative feeling towards him. You don't solve a headache by beating your skull against a brick wall. Shooting the laptop fixed absolutely nothing, it did the exact opposite.
To be fair on the guy he posted a rather lengthy post on his Facebook explaining that it was one of his worst moments as a parent.
Here's the entire post about that.
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Update: This may come as a wild shock to some.. wait for it.. wait.... (I need that guy who did the awesome HD youtube parody to do me an intro here. Where is he when I need him?)
I'm NOT a hero... of ANY kind... at all. I'm not a super-dad, or awesome parent.
I'm a normal guy with reasonable a moral compass that I try very hard to keep pointed north. I make a LOT of mistakes. Did I say a LOT? I mean a WHOLE lot! Daily... sometimes hourly!
I'm extremely lucky to have a very strong wife who tolerates me and puts up with my mistakes, and who herself is strong enough that she can put me in my place with only a look.. no really.. you haven't seen her "I'm not kidding anymore" face... it's serious. (For example I can apparently destroy a laptop and garnish world-wide attention in mere seconds, but I guarantee tomorrow morning my wife will say "Hey Chuck Norris. Make the freakin BED WILL YOU PLEASE" because I'll forget to. (I have to admit the "Chuck Norris wears Tommy Jordan pajamas" comment will stay with me for the rest of my life. I want that on a bumper sticker!)
I'm lucky to have great kids (two of them) who look up to me despite all my mistakes. I make bad parenting decisions all the time. We all do. Personally, I stand behind the decision I made earlier this week by posting the video. I don't find fault with it. If I had it to do again... let's see... I'd do it almost the same.
I'd not be smoking a cigarette. (That's a habit I promised my wife I'd quit as soon as I could afford to just go out and buy a Chantix prescription. She absolutely hates it and I'm getting mature enough to want to quit it for my own reasons as well.)
I'd not have used the word "*****" in my comment directed at my daughter. That was rude and a bad example of a parent using the "Do as I say, not as I do" philosophy
I'd have worn my Silverbelly Stetson, not my Tilley hat if I'd known that image was going to follow me the rest of my life and I'd probably have cleaned my boots.
That's it. I meant all the rest of it. My wife is OK with it. My daughter is OK with it. My Mother is OK with it. I'm OK with it. We're the only ones that matter. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those that feel the need to keep calling the police and CPS. lol
Apparently both the local police and the department of social services are OK with it. Yes they came. Of course they came. They received enough "Oh my god he's going to kill his daughter" comments that they had to. I knew that the moment it went viral.. it was too late and it was inevitable. I'm only surprised it took as long as it did to be honest.
The police by the way said "Kudos, Sir" and most of them made their kids watch it. I actually had a "thank you" from an entire detectives squad. And another police officer is using it in a positive manner in his presentation for the school system. How's about those apples? Didn't expect THAT when you called the cops did you?
The kind lady from Child Protective Services looked all through the house, the yard, and found ours to be a healthy home. She saw the unloaded guns in their rack with the magazines removed and stored separately and safely. Funny thing: The case officer asked to see "the gun".... "Umm, sir, may I see the actual..umm.. weapon used for the video?" She wasn't at all scared of me but I could tell she doesn't like guns as a general rule. To each their own though. She was comfortable that I was adhering to NC gun safety regulations for the protection of minors, and that's all she needed. But of course if you want to continue, I'm just going to leave a pot of coffee on for the next officers who come by. (Digress: Maybe I can get Krispy Kreme to sponsor me with lifetime donuts? Oh God that would be heaven. Dunkin? Crap... KK all the way....)
She asked if I minded if she interviewed my daughter privately but that I didn't have to agree. I let her meet in private and then she and I met for about an hour and a half. At the end of the day, no I'm not losing my kids, no one's in danger of being ripped from our home that I know of, and I actually got to spend some time with the nice lady and learn some cool parenting tips that I didn't know.. I use them on my 8 year old son, but not on my fifteen year old daughter.. but now I will! There were a few things I thought she was "too old" for, but after talking to the case worker, I feel like it's worth a shot to try them. Maybe I'll sell those secrets in my next book! (Seriously? You just got mad didn't you? I'm kidding. Besides, that would still only give me two pages of material- one parent tip page and one page on handgun selection techniques appropriate for different electronic destructive purposes.)
Back to me being a normal guy... I digressed again. You guys caught me on eight and a half minutes of ONE day in my life, probably the worst day in my life as a father. So, all in all, I consider the vast overwhelming show of support to be very very gratifying... that was me at my worst, not my best. If most of you found me OK as a Dad at that time, then I'm definitely OK the rest of the time. I was angry, hurt as hell, emotional as can possibly be, and stunned still. I'd taken an hour to compose myself, but apparently I should have waited longer.. and maybe used the .22 instead of the .45. (And since when does an 8 minute video EVER go viral? And maybe the next video I'll do will be auctioning the pistol I used.. that should buy some serious college tuition, but please understand that I will definitely use the profits to also purchase a replacement .45.)
I'd like to think that if a camera followed me around and filmed every moment of my life as a parent, most of you out there would still put me in the plus column. Truthfully most of you would probably be bored. I'm just ordinary. I was raised old fashioned, and I raise my kids the same way... the modern generational concepts be damned! -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And OK, so THAT brings me to a topic I'll close with, though I had no intention of speaking on it when I started this rant. (Hey, aren't the 25 thousand of you who subscribed really regretting it now? I'm always this scatter brained. Makes you wonder how I formed enough sensible sentences to write a book doesn't it? Then again... maybe that accounts for the book sales being in the toilet...)
So, my last point: I've received a LOT of comments (and by lot you have to understand there's literally MILLIONS of them. I'll likely never be able to read them all in my lifetime) pointing out that I was raised old fashioned apparently that that I needed to learn to be a parent in today's world.
Umm.. is there a polite way to call bull***t!?
The kids today ARE self entitled, spoiled, adverse to working, and basically have NO usable skills taught to them in schools. (Yes some of you out there excel. If you've graduated high school and at least pay some of your own bills, then I'm not talking to you. If you however are 25 and live with your parents because you're too lazy to get a job, then yes, I'm talking to you. Half of that is the parent's fault for thinking that the school system is supposed to raise their kids. The other half is a parent's fault for letting our school systems get to the utterly pathetic state they are in. It's your kid.. so no matter what it's ALWAYS your fault.. get it?
I'll give you a real example from the NC school system. My daughter just finished Honors Geometry in school. Halfway through the semester she asks me "Dad, can you help me type this math problem into your graphing calculator? I can't get the equation to come out right." I said "sure" and went over to help out. The problem was about calculating the tangent of a line, but I can't remember the specifics of it at the moment. I took a look at it and said "Honey, why don't you just do the problem manually... you know, on a piece of paper? It's pretty easy."
She honestly looked at me like I was a complete idiot! "You can't do it with a pencil and paper, Dad. Sheesh!"
I stared at her dumbfounded. "Honey, you DO know that tangential math has been around since the 1600s, right? Over 500 years. Long BEFORE graphing calculators existed..., right?" Her response was "Well, we're not taught that. We're just taught how to enter it into a calculator and get the right answer."
Absolutely SURE she must be crazy, I checked.... and she's right. HONORS mathematics at the high school level doesn't teach kids basic math principles. At all!!! If a modern honors geometry student had to calculate the distance of a line from the top of a flag pole to any point in space relative to the ground.. they have no idea how to do it. (How many of you just asked your kids to show you how to do that? Wait... how many more are Googling it right now? Stop. That's cheating.)
Further, almost every state now is taking "writing" out of schools. Kids are now being taught to print, and that's it. No need for actual writing because they all have computers. I'm NOT making this up! This is TRUE!! They learn the alphabetic characters... and nothing more. The age of eloquent thought borne by patient strokes of pen to paper... are gone like Rhett Butler's sex appeal.
So let me recap... you don't learn math, you don't learn to write actual words without the benefit of spell-check. You don't apparently learn grammar either because I've SEEN those text books and quizzes.. horrible.
Yet you want ME to stop raising MY child with old fashioned methods that actually made me fairly intelligent, capable of fending for myself, capable of managing money, holding a job, respecting my elders, etc?
So you can replace it with what? You want to teach kids it's OK to talk back to parents as long as they have the freedom to express themselves. You want to outlaw spankings. You've obviously made it OK for them to be stupid upon graduating high school. You've recently made it illegal for kids to work around any animal that can harm them under the age of 18, to include working in hay lofts, around dogs, or cats, horses, or cattle, etc. (Thanks for that law Obama.. idiot) You won't let them work in a restaurant that serves alcohol until 18 in most states. You won't let them work at ALL until 15 (It was 13 for me, but Dad lied and got me started when I was 12). When are they supposed to learn actual adult stuff exactly? When do they learn responsibility? No kid left behind? Pfft.. EVERY kid left behind! (Dang I'm mad now.. maybe I WILL run for President... no, wife already vetoed that one. I'd really love to though.. really, seriously!)
"Modern" parenting raises ill-prepared kids who can't do anything and have no skills because they're protected from even LEARNING them until 18 years old, at which time you want us parents to throw them out into the world, send them off to college, and expect them to be productive members of society? You can take your "modern" parenting, and shove it. Jeezus people. Half of you think chores at 15 are too much! God forbid we make them actually WORK too!
Good that he has remorse, but it's just ex post facto justification. If he can't control himself in the moment, he might as well not have any remorse at all.
no, its an explanation that isnt needed, but he felt the need to let us know what happened after his decision.
In other words as long as he follows the law, he doesnt have to explain himself, but since he's trying to be a better person, he is taking responsibility for his actions.
The people in his life understand, and the law cant touch him, really not much else to discuss here. The only real apology this man owes is to his family for exposing them like this and having the law come into their home and their life.
Other people who thought he was dangerous took more drastic measures than talking crap, and he passed with flying colors. Id say this is a wrap.
learning what NOT to do, might be a good lesson here for you though. So keep this in mind.
I found this video very entertaining, but what really scares me is that people think this guy is a hero. So, the proper way to disciplin kids is to shoot their stuff with a gun? Thats the way responsible adults are supposed to teach their kids? Or does that promote violence. What the girl did was immature, but I mean, its typical teenage angst. She deserved to be punished, but the father went wayyyy overboard. I mean, for ***** sakes, she's a 15 year old girl. Ground her, and let that be the end of it. But instead, you ruin her life, over a very typical teenaged thing. Screw this guy, thats not how a real man, or a real father, acts imo.
4:57 PM Jul 13