Ninjajp247

Feb 12 2012, 04:10 PM

Cal

Feb 12 2012, 03:43 PM

I think people don't understand the symbolic meaning of shooting/destroying the laptop. I don't think he was trying to be "too cowboy" or anything, he was simply letting his young daughter know that you can only have one these things when you're responsible and mature, and him shooting it pretty much meant she has a long way to go. Not only that, but by telling her she had to pay for the next one he's continually trying to raise her responsibility level and trying to get her to understand that life isn't a bunch of roses. These days kids live online, so the first thing that girl is going to want to do when she's ungrounded is get a computer, well now she HAS to work for one, good for the dad and smart decision imo.

i always find it amusing that you usually start a sentence containing your opinion, that you don't think others understand.

its no ones job to understand. Trying to pretend to understand is almost as bad a pretending you've done it yourself.

His methods are his own, the stereotype was a joke, he adheres to his ways, nothing wrong with acknowledging that.

What he was "simply" doing is what he said he was doing, how WE choose to interpret what he said is on us.

i saw it as a message to his daughter and her friends. Its cowboy justice or TOO cowboy is reference to my own thoughts on how he handled this. Dont need to explain it. NOr did he.

But he felt the need to let a message be known to NOT be taken for granted by your kids, who obviously felt she was entitled to do what she wanted while smiling in her dads face.

i would bet MONEY, that one of the main things going through his head? was his daughters duplicitous nature, i bet, that he was thinking that after presenting his daughter with her IMPROVED laptop? she would still bad mouth him and pretend she was entitled to it for all her "hard work" around the house.
All the while laughing and thinking its funny she got rewarded for being a B***.

Not this dad, and me either.

Viddy Veechi

Feb 12 2012, 07:00 PM

No, I know that it's symbolic for him to shoot the laptop and I also know that he has every right to shoot the laptop. I don't know what gave you the impression I didn't understand that stuff, but the fact of the matter is, whether it's symbolic or not, he basically just lost the high ground to his daughter. He did "go cowboy" on that laptop. He might work in IT, he might have hid it, he might have done whatever, but you know what? He could have just you know, sold it? Get himself a bit of cash and teaches her not to mess with her dad. But he clearly over-reacted and shot it without even trying that. You can't use a weapon to prove a point to your kids, it's irresponsible. It's the same principle as if she wouldn't clean the dishes so he smashed them on the floor, or if she wasn't feeding her pet rabbit so he cooked it and ate it. That's just as dumb as his daughter writing that stuff on Facebook, so I wonder why she's like that in the first place.

Ninjajp247

Feb 12 2012, 07:08 PM

How you feel about it and what you would do are two different things, he didnt get violent with the weapon, he discharged it somewhere where no one was around, he adhered to the gun safety laws. You cant really judge him for his method. Just shake your head. I GET why he did it. I get that he facebooked it, i just wouldnt have done it this way. I previosuly mentioned what i WOULD do, but that doesnt take away from how i feel about it.

He was immature and brash yes, but clearly not irresponsible. His practicality for the laptop is probably ZILCH, we will never know. Maybe his only redeeming value was to simply destroy it, as a symbol of his disappointment in the cold disrespect that letter had shown.

No one can judge and say their idea is better without knowing all the circumstances, and speaking before knowing them just makes most people look foolish. All im saying.

Maito Gai

Feb 12 2012, 07:58 PM

Say I had a son and I bought him a Gameboy Colour. Let's say that he does the same thing that this girl did and I decide to shoot the gameboy colour. The Gamboy colour isn't mine. Sure, I purchased it, but I gave it to my son, it's his now, not mine. Once I gave the Gamboy to him, I lost ownership of it. For me to shoot his Gameboy would be for me to shoot and destroy his property. Even then, I wouldn't shoot it. I'd either keep it for myself, sell it, or give it away.

Also, the guy rambles about how he spent have his day and $130 updating and upgrading software and stuff, then he goes and shoots the laptop. Why go through all that work and then destroy the fruits of your labour. Makes no sense to me. Regardless, I think the guy's pretty cool.

Viddy Veechi

Feb 12 2012, 08:00 PM

Believe it or not -MS- a lot of kids are immature, hence why they're children. If this guy is saying "Oh I have money to spare I can afford to shoot this laptop," it's no wonder his daughter has such a rotten attitude. Regardless of where he discharged the weapon, you don't use firearms to teach your children a lesson. In the UK using a firearm wouldn't be an option because unless you have a liscence you can't carry a gun. If I was in the girls position I'd be intimidated by the fact that my Dad was prepared to use a weapon on something so trivial. He needs to work on his own parenting skills before getting to a point at which he has to consider shooting a laptop because his daughter behaves like a spoilt brat. Kids learn from their parents, so if he's acting like money is no object, his daughter will believe money is no object and that she can have whatever she wants whenever she wants it and then he has to start doing stupid things just to get her to stop. It's double standards. He has to change in order for her to. This is a child, not a gangster or something that you're trying to intimidate.

Maito Gai

Feb 12 2012, 08:15 PM

I strongly disagree with this guy's parenting style or at least his way of going about punishing his child. If he did truly care, he wouldn't have made this as public as it is. He would've done what he had done and that would've been it. But he had to make a video and post it on the internet, potentially tarnishing and ruining his daughter's reputation.

Viddy Veechi

Feb 12 2012, 08:18 PM

Since when was parenting meant to be entertaining? This isn't dinner and a show. These are peoples lives.

Viddy Veechi

Feb 12 2012, 09:37 PM

Cal, take the same advice I gave to -MS-. Your opinion isn't fact.

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My point about the gangster stuff is that it is just a kid, you don't need to show off how powerful you are and stuff to a kid, and if she's around guns and stuff like that for it to be normal that's just wrong.

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And if her father wanted her to learn to work for her own things, he should have started off trying to teach her that, rather than waiting for her to turn into a spoiled brat before having to resort to stupid things like destroying her laptop. It doesn't matter how it was destroyed, you're right, it's all bloody stupid. A firearm is just one of the worst tools of destruction you could use in this instance.

Rogue

Feb 11 2012, 06:46 PM

Heard about this on Painkiller Already, some podcast, which does have some odd topics and ones which some people might find disturbing

I support what he did, if my perants could spend that kind of money on me, I wouldn't complain about having to do a bit of cleaning, none of which sounds hard, I mean it's not hard to make your own bed, I do it every time I wake up out of habit, I don't like my bed messy. When I used to get pocket money back when I when I was a teenager, which was only £5 a week, i had to do dishes once a week, pretty simple task, but obviously the more a perant gives, the more you should be willing to do without complaint, so long as it's nothing illigal, obviously.

I'll help clean the house without getting anything in return, I get a thank you and nothing more, other than free food and a place to live, although I also pay for the food some weeks as well as paying to upgrade the internet connection and buying my own computer, but back when I was a teenager, I couldn't do any of these things.

But I mean anyone who isn't willing to do a bit of cleaning shouldn't get anything in return.

-MS-

Feb 13 2012, 02:22 AM

Ima let you finish but.....Voltaire wins!

-MS-

Feb 13 2012, 02:22 AM

Ima let you finish but.....Voltaire wins!

Engineer

Feb 13 2012, 03:13 PM

-MS-

Feb 13 2012, 02:22 AM

Ima let you finish but.....Voltaire wins!

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