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Child badmouths parents on facebook, parent shoots laptop to punish her
Topic Started: Feb 11 2012, 12:15 PM (3,830 Views)
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In truth he WAS adhering to his stereotype, LOOK at him, he's a cowboy, com[lete with get up, a love for country music, and a southern twang that will take you back to Mississippi to visit mark twain. LOL

Anyways, shooting the laptop is just the final nail in her internet coffin so to speak. Meaning that with those bullets, he's making sure her and her friends get the point, raging and breaking it would have the same effect.

He already hid it, and as he said, he WORKS in IT. So im sure that he has more than enough money to spare, letting his daughter know just how much that thing meant to him at the moment as opposed to when he bought it for her.

Was shooting it immature? SURE it was, but from his perspective? he did all the "right" things first, now? its time for some cowboy justice.

i GUARANTEE, that if it was just him? he wouldve taken a different approach, but he was mad over her disrespect toward EVERYONE, her mom, even the cleaning lady. Then tried to hide the comment on facebook, so it could be read by all her friends who think its cute to be ungrateful and stupid.

i dont have to agree with his methods, but i can totally sympathize why he did it this way.

Personally? i would have erased her laptop, claimed it back as my own, and used it for work or whatever.

Viddy is right in her way, the dude went TOO cowboy on the laptop, for no real reason than he bought it. So, it doesnt make it wrong? just creepy IMO.
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I think people don't understand the symbolic meaning of shooting/destroying the laptop. I don't think he was trying to be "too cowboy" or anything, he was simply letting his young daughter know that you can only have one these things when you're responsible and mature, and him shooting it pretty much meant she has a long way to go. Not only that, but by telling her she had to pay for the next one he's continually trying to raise her responsibility level and trying to get her to understand that life isn't a bunch of roses. These days kids live online, so the first thing that girl is going to want to do when she's ungrounded is get a computer, well now she HAS to work for one, good for the dad and smart decision imo.



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I don't see the problem with shooting it, he has a gun, she was warned.


As I think Rogue said he had every right to do that because it was his laptop he paid for it, she was probably lucky to get it in the first place considering how she acts. Shooting it just showed that he means business hitting it with a hammer or something is way too childish and just seems like a tantrum more than a punishment.

Does it matter if he was a stereotype? Some people are just like that, nothing wrong with it.


She doesn't need money for doing chores etc everyone who gets money for that is lucky to get it because you get things like cellphones, games, laptops etc bought for you anyway. If you want extra pocket money get your own job and use your own money chores are hardly that great unless you live in a mansion and have to clean out 50 rooms or something, but in that case you'd be rich anyway.


Point is the message it sent, look at some of the response videos most of them are saying that they totally respect it and that they've started to think about how they act at home and that they should appreciate what they get more.
It wasn't just a message to her.
Maybe it was intended to be but considering it's practically instant popularity it's obviously sent a message to a lot of people at the very least thousands.
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Feb 12 2012, 03:43 PM
I think people don't understand the symbolic meaning of shooting/destroying the laptop. I don't think he was trying to be "too cowboy" or anything, he was simply letting his young daughter know that you can only have one these things when you're responsible and mature, and him shooting it pretty much meant she has a long way to go. Not only that, but by telling her she had to pay for the next one he's continually trying to raise her responsibility level and trying to get her to understand that life isn't a bunch of roses. These days kids live online, so the first thing that girl is going to want to do when she's ungrounded is get a computer, well now she HAS to work for one, good for the dad and smart decision imo.

i always find it amusing that you usually start a sentence containing your opinion, that you don't think others understand.

its no ones job to understand. Trying to pretend to understand is almost as bad a pretending you've done it yourself.

His methods are his own, the stereotype was a joke, he adheres to his ways, nothing wrong with acknowledging that.

What he was "simply" doing is what he said he was doing, how WE choose to interpret what he said is on us.

i saw it as a message to his daughter and her friends. Its cowboy justice or TOO cowboy is reference to my own thoughts on how he handled this. Dont need to explain it. NOr did he.

But he felt the need to let a message be known to NOT be taken for granted by your kids, who obviously felt she was entitled to do what she wanted while smiling in her dads face.

i would bet MONEY, that one of the main things going through his head? was his daughters duplicitous nature, i bet, that he was thinking that after presenting his daughter with her IMPROVED laptop? she would still bad mouth him and pretend she was entitled to it for all her "hard work" around the house.
All the while laughing and thinking its funny she got rewarded for being a B***.

Not this dad, and me either.



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No, I know that it's symbolic for him to shoot the laptop and I also know that he has every right to shoot the laptop. I don't know what gave you the impression I didn't understand that stuff, but the fact of the matter is, whether it's symbolic or not, he basically just lost the high ground to his daughter. He did "go cowboy" on that laptop. He might work in IT, he might have hid it, he might have done whatever, but you know what? He could have just you know, sold it? Get himself a bit of cash and teaches her not to mess with her dad. But he clearly over-reacted and shot it without even trying that. You can't use a weapon to prove a point to your kids, it's irresponsible. It's the same principle as if she wouldn't clean the dishes so he smashed them on the floor, or if she wasn't feeding her pet rabbit so he cooked it and ate it. That's just as dumb as his daughter writing that stuff on Facebook, so I wonder why she's like that in the first place.
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How you feel about it and what you would do are two different things, he didnt get violent with the weapon, he discharged it somewhere where no one was around, he adhered to the gun safety laws. You cant really judge him for his method. Just shake your head. I GET why he did it. I get that he facebooked it, i just wouldnt have done it this way. I previosuly mentioned what i WOULD do, but that doesnt take away from how i feel about it.

He was immature and brash yes, but clearly not irresponsible. His practicality for the laptop is probably ZILCH, we will never know. Maybe his only redeeming value was to simply destroy it, as a symbol of his disappointment in the cold disrespect that letter had shown.

No one can judge and say their idea is better without knowing all the circumstances, and speaking before knowing them just makes most people look foolish. All im saying.
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Feb 12 2012, 06:08 AM
It does seem a little over the top even if the gun or tool used to break the laptop is irrelevant. Don't get me wrong, the girl is dumb as *****. I'm very much similar to Rogue but I didn't even recieve £5 pocket money for doing dishes, taking the bins out or making my bed or changing the sheets and stuff, I was just expected to do it as part of my family, and Im absolutely fine with that. Being a student now I'm thinking "Well a little extra cash would be appreciated" but I can't pay myself for doing those chores now because I live away from home. When I was living at home and when I go back there I'm fine with doing those chores for no money because my parents provide me with support and nice things and food and shelter and thats all any child could ever expect their parents to give them. As Mike was saying, yeah I do get frustrated with my parents sometimes but there are generational differences and we are all only human. Humans don't get along all the time, and sometimes you do need to vent your frustration but bitching out your Dad when hes not done anything is wrong. In my house if my daughter did that, she would learn not to mess with her parents like that, but I don't think that going and smashing up the laptop is the best way of doing it. I mean if it was me I'd not want to see something I'd paid money for smashed up just because my child was acting rotten and letting it get the better of me. Cuz that's all I think her Dad is doing, he's stooping to an immature level in order to get her attention. I'm fairly sure she probably thinks he's psycho after that and I can't blame her even if she is a dumb ***** that needs to quit badmouthing her dad. Only problem is you can't fault that method too much as to how effective it might be, but then say for example she does stop acting like a dumbass and 30 years later she's telling her kids about how her Dad shot her laptop. That's not exactly normal to say the least.
I said rpg it to implicate that you are taking this serious and that I think its a joke. He bought the laptop, therefore he can do what he wants. She deserved it for being a selfish little prick IMO. Who bad mouths there parent's like that? She was immature for doing it. He showed how serious he was. I guarantee you, she won't do it again will she? Obviously the grounding before didn't work did it?

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Say I had a son and I bought him a Gameboy Colour. Let's say that he does the same thing that this girl did and I decide to shoot the gameboy colour. The Gamboy colour isn't mine. Sure, I purchased it, but I gave it to my son, it's his now, not mine. Once I gave the Gamboy to him, I lost ownership of it. For me to shoot his Gameboy would be for me to shoot and destroy his property. Even then, I wouldn't shoot it. I'd either keep it for myself, sell it, or give it away.

Also, the guy rambles about how he spent have his day and $130 updating and upgrading software and stuff, then he goes and shoots the laptop. Why go through all that work and then destroy the fruits of your labour. Makes no sense to me. Regardless, I think the guy's pretty cool.
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Believe it or not -MS- a lot of kids are immature, hence why they're children. If this guy is saying "Oh I have money to spare I can afford to shoot this laptop," it's no wonder his daughter has such a rotten attitude. Regardless of where he discharged the weapon, you don't use firearms to teach your children a lesson. In the UK using a firearm wouldn't be an option because unless you have a liscence you can't carry a gun. If I was in the girls position I'd be intimidated by the fact that my Dad was prepared to use a weapon on something so trivial. He needs to work on his own parenting skills before getting to a point at which he has to consider shooting a laptop because his daughter behaves like a spoilt brat. Kids learn from their parents, so if he's acting like money is no object, his daughter will believe money is no object and that she can have whatever she wants whenever she wants it and then he has to start doing stupid things just to get her to stop. It's double standards. He has to change in order for her to. This is a child, not a gangster or something that you're trying to intimidate.
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Well everyone has the own parenting style and if its how he wants it I have nothing to argue over it, In fact its quite entertaining. I wouldn't do it this way but I also wouldn't question him on his decisions. He used all precaution necessary and he isn't implying money he no object. I'd rather believe he showing his seriousness. If he said it was no object he wouldn't have told her she has to pay him for the software

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I strongly disagree with this guy's parenting style or at least his way of going about punishing his child. If he did truly care, he wouldn't have made this as public as it is. He would've done what he had done and that would've been it. But he had to make a video and post it on the internet, potentially tarnishing and ruining his daughter's reputation.
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Since when was parenting meant to be entertaining? This isn't dinner and a show. These are peoples lives.
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Feb 12 2012, 08:00 PM
Believe it or not -MS- a lot of kids are immature, hence why they're children. If this guy is saying "Oh I have money to spare I can afford to shoot this laptop," it's no wonder his daughter has such a rotten attitude. Regardless of where he discharged the weapon, you don't use firearms to teach your children a lesson. In the UK using a firearm wouldn't be an option because unless you have a liscence you can't carry a gun. If I was in the girls position I'd be intimidated by the fact that my Dad was prepared to use a weapon on something so trivial. He needs to work on his own parenting skills before getting to a point at which he has to consider shooting a laptop because his daughter behaves like a spoilt brat. Kids learn from their parents, so if he's acting like money is no object, his daughter will believe money is no object and that she can have whatever she wants whenever she wants it and then he has to start doing stupid things just to get her to stop. It's double standards. He has to change in order for her to. This is a child, not a gangster or something that you're trying to intimidate.
This makes sense.

However, the daughter got the message, Whether people approve o the charles bronson attitude or not is actually a little trivial in itself, maybe he thought his words werent enough, all of these maybes are floating around, but we know what the dude said.

He was done being disrespected
she was warned previously
flashed for approval from her friends
tried ot hide it

Dad felt like he went to great lengths in order to make his daughter happy and he sees something like this? he's only human after all, and men react overtly sometimes when the emotional pain sets in.

Plus he put one in there for his wife, (her mom) so that must have really made him feel justified.

So...can we claim moral superiority? or emotional?

Nevermind the use of a gun, i wouldnt care if he took a strap to her butt.

Was what he did right or wrong?

is the message right? is the delivery wrong?
or is it wrong for him period to make this problem public by going on FB?
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Well I will never know this man nor his daughter. Why complain over such a video, instead of being entertained? I cant change him and we can't change what is done, therefore it is for entertainment purposes IMO. I feel that it may be harsh but no physical damage to the daughter was done. As for her reputation, she screwed that up posting what she posted. She went way too overboard on what she said and it was a second offense. obviously what ever punishment she received wasn't good enough the first time, I guarantee she understood this time. Obviously this is an american way and wouldn't be done in England! because we don't have permits oooh! I bet you someone has done a foolish act like that in England too, veechi, that comment earlier was unnecessary about the permit in england.

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Ninja raises very good points, and I'd like to make it clear that I do actually approve of the fact that he got the message across, I just think the method should have been different, he should have delivered the message differently. I also think he shouldn't have gone public with it too. It's a bit of a private issue really, why would you broadcast the fact that you shot your kids laptop to show her who is boss if not to get attention and big yourself up? He's just showing off by doing that.

But well done Ninja, I think you hit the nail on the head with that post there.

Edit: -MS- I suggest you stop acting all high and mighty. Your word isn't law. All I'm trying to do is present my opinion. I don't find this issue funny or entertaining and my point about permits being needed for weapons in the UK is perfectly valid. The point I made was that people here have to parent without the use of guns, so why is it necessary and why is it practical for Americans resort to that? It isn't. It's just a way for this guy to assert himself.
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