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Why did Ichigo use the Final Getsuga?
Topic Started: Jan 25 2012, 03:49 AM (3,490 Views)
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What the title says. He was already so much stronger just from training to learn the attack. He was in a whole another level compared to Aizen, Aizen couldn't even feel his reiatsu or anything. So why then?
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Aiezen is immortal though, right? He probably knew he had to go trump card or go home.


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Aizen was probably still evolving. He may have surpassed Ichigo if they played around too much...
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the final getsuga tensho was simply so he could pool ALL his reiatsu into physical strength, like ki weighting. The whole process drained him of his powers, not just the lunar fang crescent beam.

BUt then they ignored that whole thing anyways and made it seem like he really lost his power in the time tunnel.
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Jan 25 2012, 10:27 AM
the final getsuga tensho was simply so he could pool ALL his reiatsu into physical strength, like ki weighting. The whole process drained him of his powers, not just the lunar fang crescent beam.

BUt then they ignored that whole thing anyways and made it seem like he really lost his power in the time tunnel.
He didn't lose his Reiatsu though in the form he took after the dangai training. He simply was at a dimension above Aizen in terms of Reiatsu level. Aizen made up an excuse as to why Ichigo couldn't be sensed anymore (the physical strength rubbish), and his excuse was incorrect.

The FGT meant that Zangetsu would release all of its power at one time. Zangetsu itself was sacrificed, hence Ichigo losing his powers afterward because Zangetsu was the source of all his power (especially after Hollow Ichigo and Zangetsu becoming one).
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it cant be possible to actually KILL zangetsu though, as ichigo AND zangetsu came from his FATHER ISSHIN kurosaki, who proved himself to be the strongest of captains.

plus a kernel of ichigos energy still existed to activate his fullbring.

so even though aizen was wrong? i dont know how he could have been. It was obvious the final release was supposed to drain you. Even ISSHIN couldnt take the power drain and had to wait 20 years to come back to full power, but unlike ichigo, isshin is immortal. Or should be. being a soul reaper captain im sure hes living in a gigai.

so imho? ichigo would have gotten his powers back, 13 gotei or not.

hollow ichigo and zangetsu forming together was a result of ichigo himself taking control, he had multiple fights with them both before they gave in to him. combining his powers was the only real way to stay alive honestly.

by the way? zangetsu is NOT the source of ichigos powers, its the source of his zanpakto's power. The gotei use the same technique as the fullbring, you communicate with the soul of your weapon. The whole point.

Ichigos true power was his demon self, as apparent when kisuke killed him to fully release his hidden power, which turned out to be hollow power, just like a fullbringers.
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Theory: Final Getsuga Tensho
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The thing that drained his power was using Mugetsu. In the evolved Bankai (form with chains and such) itself he still has Reiastu UNTIL he used Mugetsu. Aizens power could not be sensed by mere lower dimensional beings like Shinigami and Hollows. Yet Aizen realizes that Ichigo is at a dimension above himself and thus he could not be sensed. I'm not so sure Ichigo would have lost his powers if he did not use Mugetsu. This is mainly because Ichigo said he was going to use FGT when he further transformed and used Mugetsu. The evolved Bankai itself was not FGT, and thus would not have made him lose his powers.

Yeah, Ichigo had a bit of his powers afterward of course inside the badge and whatnot. But what I'm saying that I don't think you grasp is that Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo were 100% the same thing by the end of the Decide arc. So by sacrificing Zangetsu, he was also discarding Hollow Ichigo. Of course you are right with the fact his powers might have come back after years like Isshins did.

Also on the points of Zangetsu not being the source of his power. Zangetsu in a way is a somewhat a source of his power. Of course a Shinigami's powers are not sourced from their Zanpaktou completely and don't rely totally on a Zanpaktou (example is Kenpachi). However a Shinigami communicating with their Zan gives them more power of course. If you recall Ichigo during the Kenpachi fight he stated that a Shinigami communicating his his Zan can increase their powers dramatically as opposed to not communicating. Also Shikai and Bankai are both properties of the Zanpaktou, so in that sense the Zanpaktou IS part of the source for Shinigami power.

About Hollow Ichigo. Kisuke didn't kill him, he caused a hollowfication to occur. If you recall, Ichigo's training was to gain his own Shinigami powers after he lost the ones he had from Rukia. The training cited the fact that if he failed to gain his shinigami powers by getting out of the pit, he would hollowfy and become a hollow like any other. However the hollowfication did happen but Ichigo survived it. Hollow Ichigo was created then and there. It was not some hidden power that he had always had. Ichigo's fullbring was due to "traces" of Hollow power purportedly from Ichigo's mother being attacked before his birth. However it was never stated that any of the fullbringers have an ACTUAL hollows within them, just that their powers are related to hollows.
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It was the only plausible attack to kill him, though in the end, all it did was weaken him greatly. But that was enough for Kisuke's plan to go into motion.
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Because Mugetsu was the only way to make the Hogyokou rejecting Aizen. In other words, finishing Aizen off for good.

/End of the thread.
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Feb 14 2012, 06:14 PM
Because Mugetsu was the only way to make the Hogyokou rejecting Aizen. In other words, finishing Aizen off for good.

/End of the thread.
but i doubt Ichigo knew that...
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Feb 15 2012, 01:30 AM
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Feb 14 2012, 06:14 PM
Because Mugetsu was the only way to make the Hogyokou rejecting Aizen. In other words, finishing Aizen off for good.

/End of the thread.
but i doubt Ichigo knew that...
I know, but it was the only way to finish Aizen off for good. He thought that.
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