Tien (Buu Saga) vs. Buutenks

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Tien (Buu Saga) vs. Buutenks
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 25 2012, 01:17 AM (5,183 Views)
~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Jan 25 2012, 01:17 AM Post #1
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	Even though the fight already happen in the series, which is why I'm not putting this in the versus section, a lot of people still argue about it and use it as a point in order to show Tien's strength. It's established Tien lost the fight, but what I'm trying to ask is: does this serve as a good reference of how strong Tien is, did Tien actually put up a fight against Buutenks or was Buu holding back, and could Tien have possibly won? The facts I'm going to use are not set in stone, because its hard to create any power chains or comparisons from the fight: -Most people argue that because Gohan was relieved and surprised when he saw Tien, it was implying that he believed Tien could go against Buutenks. However, this could be countered because Gohan was very tired at the time, and was probably relieved to see anyone, so this argument doesn't mean much. -Some people say that Tien dodged one of Buu's attacks, so he was not entirely outclassed. This makes no sense, as Buutenks was smiling, and did not look surprised when Tien dodged it, meaning that Buutenks was toying with him. -Tien's kikoho/tri-beam, one of his most hax moves, did temporarily destroy Buu, but he regenerated seconds later. -In the end, Tien lost anyway. Conclusion: Buutenks was holding back, Tien most likely could not have won, it does not show how strong Tien is, but it make make him a bit stronger than suspected. What do you guys think?



+ Pyrus	Jan 25 2012, 01:28 AM Post #2
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I don't take the scene to mean diddly squat. If Tenshinhan was that useful, why didn't he show up sooner and dispose of someone weaker than Gotenks-Boo? Was he too busy "training his ***** off" to care?
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Mysterious9001	Jan 25 2012, 01:29 AM Post #3
Posts: 602 Group: Member Member #7,200 Joined: January 15, 2012	I think only his Shin Kikoho would reach Gotenks-Boo tier, but we all know that has a very high multiplier, so Tien is a weakling at this point.



+ KingOfAllSaiyans	Jan 25 2012, 02:22 AM Post #4
Posts: 2,925 Group: Elite Member Member #6,376 Joined: June 19, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Neon Genesis Evangelion What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Yeah Tien himself was weak compared to Gohan and Buutenks, but his Kikoho was pretty damn strong.



Mesmerize	Jan 25 2012, 02:34 AM Post #5
Posts: 103 Group: Member Member #7,178 Joined: January 8, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ, DB Kai, Naruto, Bleach What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Naruto, Bleach	Wow... Bootenks vs Tien Bootenks > Gohan > Super Boo >>>>>>>> Goku ssj3 >>>>>>>> base Goku >>>> Tien Bootenks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tien Whatever Tien did, it was only because Bootenks allowed it...



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Jan 25 2012, 02:43 AM Post #6
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	Mesmerize Jan 25 2012, 02:34 AM Bootenks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tien Whatever Tien did, it was only because Bootenks allowed it... I believe in that. However, we are unsure exactly how much stronger Tien got from the years of training. Tien's kikoho nearly destroyed Buu, except he could regenerate. If Tien were to use his kikoho on someone such as Goku or Gotenks, it could possibly kill them. I realize that Tien's Tri-beam is kind of a hax move, but it's the only way to bump him up to Buu tier and make him relevent.



+ KingOfAllSaiyans	Jan 25 2012, 02:52 AM Post #7
Posts: 2,925 Group: Elite Member Member #6,376 Joined: June 19, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Neon Genesis Evangelion What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Tien has held off Cell and almost destroyed Buu. Either the Kikoho has an ENORMUS multiplier or Tien is stronger than people give him credit for.



POOHEAD189	Jan 25 2012, 02:57 AM Post #8
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	Tien's attack didn't nearly destroy buu. It didn't hurt him at all. You guys crazy? I think the fact that he blocked an attack with his Neo Kikoho, and the fact that he survived against an unguarded buutenks kick means he was pretty strong. But srsly, he is nowhere near their strength.
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sylentknyte	Jan 25 2012, 03:00 AM Post #9
Posts: 790 Group: Member Member #5,932 Joined: March 30, 2011	Like you said, it does imply that Tien is a respected warrior amongst his peers, but doesnt prove much about his strength. I mean, even if he was SSJ2 strength it wouldnt be any different. I think Gohan was just relieved to see a friendly face, a guy that just saved Dende and Hercule from death. But like you said, Tien was shown to be able to dodge an attack from Buutenks, was able to deflect an attack, and avoided Super Buu's beams. This shows that he is undoubtably in the millions powerlevel, and can justify him being at the Frieza-tier.



+ Pyrus	Jan 25 2012, 03:00 AM Post #10
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I'd rather just give the Shin Kikoho a huge multiplier than have him suddenly on par with SSjin 3 Son Goku or something. If we were to take what Gotenks-Boo says about Tenshinhan being a master at face value, and how he mocked Son Goku after knocking Ten out, then Ten would have to be at least stronger than Son for that to make sense IMO. Edited by Pyrus, Jan 25 2012, 03:02 AM.
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~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Jan 25 2012, 03:03 AM Post #11
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	KingOfAllSaiyans Jan 25 2012, 02:52 AM Tien has held off Cell and almost destroyed Buu. Either the Kikoho has an ENORMUS multiplier or Tien is stronger than people give him credit for. I'd like to go with the idea that the kikoho gives an enormous multiplier, otherwise that'd be putting Tien on the same level as Cell and Buu. As cool as it would be, and as much as I wish it was like that in the series, it's not, at post-Namek, the humans and completely outclasses by the Saiyans. Quote: Tien's attack didn't nearly destroy buu. It didn't hurt him at all. You guys crazy? Tien's attack caused Buu to disintregate into thousands of tiny pieces of goo. If Buu could not regenerate, he would be dead. It is one single hax ability that Buu has that has prevented him from dying many times.



+ Pyrus	Jan 25 2012, 03:09 AM Post #12
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	TeenGohan Jan 25 2012, 03:03 AM KingOfAllSaiyans Jan 25 2012, 02:52 AM Tien has held off Cell and almost destroyed Buu. Either the Kikoho has an ENORMUS multiplier or Tien is stronger than people give him credit for. I'd like to go with the idea that the kikoho gives an enormous multiplier, otherwise that'd be putting Tien on the same level as Cell and Buu. As cool as it would be, and as much as I wish it was like that in the series, it's not, at post-Namek, the humans and completely outclasses by the Saiyans. Quote: Tien's attack didn't nearly destroy buu. It didn't hurt him at all. You guys crazy? Tien's attack caused Buu to disintregate into thousands of tiny pieces of goo. If Buu could not regenerate, he would be dead. It is one single hax ability that Buu has that has prevented him from dying many times. You must be watching the anime because Tenshinhan never harms Boo. And if we go by the logic of "no regen = dead", then the gunmen must also be super powerful because without regen, Evil Boo would've been shredded. Another thing I don't see is a look of relief on Son Gohan's face when Tenshinhan arrives. He looks surprised if anything.
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+ KingOfAllSaiyans	Jan 25 2012, 03:14 AM Post #13
Posts: 2,925 Group: Elite Member Member #6,376 Joined: June 19, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Neon Genesis Evangelion What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	ObsessiveFanGuy Jan 25 2012, 03:09 AM TeenGohan Jan 25 2012, 03:03 AM KingOfAllSaiyans Jan 25 2012, 02:52 AM Tien has held off Cell and almost destroyed Buu. Either the Kikoho has an ENORMUS multiplier or Tien is stronger than people give him credit for. I'd like to go with the idea that the kikoho gives an enormous multiplier, otherwise that'd be putting Tien on the same level as Cell and Buu. As cool as it would be, and as much as I wish it was like that in the series, it's not, at post-Namek, the humans and completely outclasses by the Saiyans. Quote: Tien's attack didn't nearly destroy buu. It didn't hurt him at all. You guys crazy? Tien's attack caused Buu to disintregate into thousands of tiny pieces of goo. If Buu could not regenerate, he would be dead. It is one single hax ability that Buu has that has prevented him from dying many times. You must be watching the anime because Tenshinhan never harms Boo. And if we go by the logic of "no regen = dead", then the gunmen must also be super powerful because without regen, Evil Boo would've been shredded. Another thing I don't see is a look of relief on Son Gohan's face when Tenshinhan arrives. He looks surprised if anything. I wasnt even thinking about the fact that Tien probably only hurt Buu in the anime. I've never read the Manga, so what exactly happens? Btw I agree with giving the Kikoho a giant multiplier.



+ Pyrus	Jan 25 2012, 03:16 AM Post #14
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	KingOfAllSaiyans Jan 25 2012, 03:14 AM ObsessiveFanGuy Jan 25 2012, 03:09 AM TeenGohan Jan 25 2012, 03:03 AM KingOfAllSaiyans Jan 25 2012, 02:52 AM Tien has held off Cell and almost destroyed Buu. Either the Kikoho has an ENORMUS multiplier or Tien is stronger than people give him credit for. I'd like to go with the idea that the kikoho gives an enormous multiplier, otherwise that'd be putting Tien on the same level as Cell and Buu. As cool as it would be, and as much as I wish it was like that in the series, it's not, at post-Namek, the humans and completely outclasses by the Saiyans. Quote: Tien's attack didn't nearly destroy buu. It didn't hurt him at all. You guys crazy? Tien's attack caused Buu to disintregate into thousands of tiny pieces of goo. If Buu could not regenerate, he would be dead. It is one single hax ability that Buu has that has prevented him from dying many times. You must be watching the anime because Tenshinhan never harms Boo. And if we go by the logic of "no regen = dead", then the gunmen must also be super powerful because without regen, Evil Boo would've been shredded. Another thing I don't see is a look of relief on Son Gohan's face when Tenshinhan arrives. He looks surprised if anything. I wasnt even thinking about the fact that Tien probably only hurt Buu in the anime. I've never read the Manga, so what exactly happens? Btw I agree with giving the Kikoho a giant multiplier. Overall? ~Survives Evil Boo's extinction attack. ~Blows up one of Gotenks-Boo's Ki blasts with the Shin Kikoho. ~Gets OHKO'd by Boo's severed feet.
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Mesmerize	Jan 25 2012, 03:20 AM Post #15
Posts: 103 Group: Member Member #7,178 Joined: January 8, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ, DB Kai, Naruto, Bleach What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Naruto, Bleach	In the manga Tien didn't dodge anything, just deflects attack and is knocked out with one hit by Boo's lower half (if I remember correctly). I just want to add that Vegeta in his ssj form (not ssj2) deflected Kid Boo's attack just as easily, but without even using a technique, just normal blast (no multiplier at all), and we all know that Vegeta even in ssj2 <<< Kid Boo, thus Vegeta ssj <<<<<<<<<<<< Kid Boo. Edited by Mesmerize, Jan 25 2012, 03:21 AM.



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