Kid Buu

Jan 19 2012, 12:08 PM

I believe Tien is the answer here. Like other people have said, he has showed more power through out the series compared to Krillin

Kblo247

Jan 19 2012, 09:49 AM

Famicommander

Jan 19 2012, 02:33 AM

Espionage

Jan 19 2012, 02:19 AM

Krillin messed up bad with the remote lol. Hmmm I bet if Krillin was asked to hold back semi-perfect Cell the way Tien did, the outcome wouldn't have been very good.

Krillin TRIED to stop Cell from absorbing 18, just like Tien did.

Tien blasted Cell into a giant hole and held him there long enough for 18 to pick up a near-dead 16 and then fly away slowly.

Krillin attacked Cell, got swatted away, and then watched Cell absorb 18.

They both had the same goal against the same opponent. Tien succeeded, Krillin failed.

The Cell Tien held down and didn't even scratch was about as similar to the Cell Krillin tried to stop physically, as the Goku who fought Nappa was to the one who fought Goku. Cell was suppressed as all hell and got surprised when Tien blasted him. Cell had powered up to his max to fight Vegeta and Trunks when Krillin threw punches at him.

- The fact is in DB, Tien was stronger.
- The fact is to start Z, Tein was stronger
- The fact is Krillin was stronger on Namek than Tien with King Kai as Piccolo was the strongest on Kai's planet, and he described the power of Gohan, Krilling, and Piccolo as big when they were facing Frieza.
- The fact is it set in stone that going into the tournament Krillin was the strongest of the three,. Yamcha made the statement based off the last time all of the humans were together and had to fight for their lives which was versus the Cell Jrs. Yamcha didn't qualify it to Marron, he thought it to himself because that was just how things were.
- Krillin was also not mentioned as having stopped training to he had a family btw so there was room for improvement from when he fought the JRs, but I have no problem calling Tien stronger after he became a family man.

And then if you want to get filler technical
- Piccolo tells goku point blank that the two of them, and , Krillin can take Rrieza and Vegta of just get the dragon balls and wish him back. He flat out disregards Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu as trash and unnecessary when he thinks about going to face off aginst those two on Namek. He on the other hand values Krillin.
- Garlic Jr saga happens and they show that he is still training and has gotten even stronger than he was on Namek when he was already stronger than the other humans,
- Krillin out right states that he would be 100% sure he would win vs the androids if he could go SSJ, so his improvement is implied to be great
- Krillin actually makes Cell scream in pain when he saves that girl and boy by physically hitting him. Take into account that Cell had been absorbing people since the Piccolo fight, yet Krillin hurt him with physical strength which was something Tien never did anybody in Z outside a Saibabman and the Ginyu filler. In fact the only other time int h anime Tien tried to physically hurt someone solo and not use his haxed Tribeam was versus 17 who rag dolled him
- Krillin is stated to be the only human who trains to fight Cell at the Cll Games while Tien and Yamcha choose not to compete or prepare.
- Krillin also versus the Cell Jrs is the only human who didn't get out right dominated one on one. In fact the cell jr didn't even hurt him, until one of the ones piccolo attacked surprised him from behind, as he spent the early onslaught outright dodging every attack, whereas Tien and Yamcha got hammered straight up after blocking the first round of blows before Piccolo saved them.
- Krillin is shown to be able to train with 18 and implied to do it throughout the time leading to the tournament.
- Krillin says outright in th Funi dub when he hears about the no super saiyan rule, he can finish Ina top place, and that is without knowing about the junior division,which means he had to think or know he could take both base boys.
- Krillin in the anime was not scared of any of Babadis henchmen but Dabura, wow was ssj2 level, which is a testament to how strong he was (Tien too)
- While trunks gets the radar, Gotwn and Krillin are shown to spar equally on the lookout
- Krillin is brought to other world by King Kai as a plan b to fight Super Buu.
- To be exact, in the anime the Kai's note that Kid Buu was sensing for great powerslam the whole universe. Kid Buu senses Krillin and Yamcha sparring across the universe, which tells how strong they (Tien lumped in too) have become in the anime world. The other world fighters including Pikkon watched when Buu showed real power, yet Krillin and Yamcha attacked which basically showed that the three earthlings were universal beasts in the eyes of Toei and Funi
- In fact if you want to be technical, Yamcha pawned Olibu and another fighter from the tournament like they were fodder at once and bragged they couldn't touch him, yet he admitted to being inferior to Krillin. Krillin also stated while watching Yamcha that he can never get him to train seriously back on earth, which basically says Krillin has trained in that gap as I stated before.

* Piccolo let Tien come with him to look for Cell true, but you also need to remember that it was Krillin who came up with the plan to kill that timelines Cell and that Trunks was also there, so it had nothing to do with power as he could have easily went with piccolo while Tien went with Krillin since both Tien and Krillin were implied int eh anime to be weaker than Gohan in the android arc who Trunks says needs to stay behind and protect Goku from a possible android attack.

Summary
DB - Tien
Z Saiyan arc - Tien
Namek - Cell Games - Krillin
Post 7 years - EOZ - Tien

That is basically it in the manga and anime. No matter how you slice it, it is stated that Krillin was stronger by Yamcha in print and film than himself and Tien, and the only time he could make that comparison were the games. Krillins as simply thought of as being more relevant and essential to the team throughout the majority of Z.

Famicommander

Jan 19 2012, 04:45 PM

Kblo247

Jan 19 2012, 09:49 AM

Famicommander

Jan 19 2012, 02:33 AM

Espionage

Jan 19 2012, 02:19 AM

Krillin messed up bad with the remote lol. Hmmm I bet if Krillin was asked to hold back semi-perfect Cell the way Tien did, the outcome wouldn't have been very good.

Krillin TRIED to stop Cell from absorbing 18, just like Tien did.

Tien blasted Cell into a giant hole and held him there long enough for 18 to pick up a near-dead 16 and then fly away slowly.

Krillin attacked Cell, got swatted away, and then watched Cell absorb 18.

They both had the same goal against the same opponent. Tien succeeded, Krillin failed.

The Cell Tien held down and didn't even scratch was about as similar to the Cell Krillin tried to stop physically, as the Goku who fought Nappa was to the one who fought Goku. Cell was suppressed as all hell and got surprised when Tien blasted him. Cell had powered up to his max to fight Vegeta and Trunks when Krillin threw punches at him.

- The fact is in DB, Tien was stronger.
- The fact is to start Z, Tein was stronger
- The fact is Krillin was stronger on Namek than Tien with King Kai as Piccolo was the strongest on Kai's planet, and he described the power of Gohan, Krilling, and Piccolo as big when they were facing Frieza.
- The fact is it set in stone that going into the tournament Krillin was the strongest of the three,. Yamcha made the statement based off the last time all of the humans were together and had to fight for their lives which was versus the Cell Jrs. Yamcha didn't qualify it to Marron, he thought it to himself because that was just how things were.
- Krillin was also not mentioned as having stopped training to he had a family btw so there was room for improvement from when he fought the JRs, but I have no problem calling Tien stronger after he became a family man.

And then if you want to get filler technical
- Piccolo tells goku point blank that the two of them, and , Krillin can take Rrieza and Vegta of just get the dragon balls and wish him back. He flat out disregards Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu as trash and unnecessary when he thinks about going to face off aginst those two on Namek. He on the other hand values Krillin.
- Garlic Jr saga happens and they show that he is still training and has gotten even stronger than he was on Namek when he was already stronger than the other humans,
- Krillin out right states that he would be 100% sure he would win vs the androids if he could go SSJ, so his improvement is implied to be great
- Krillin actually makes Cell scream in pain when he saves that girl and boy by physically hitting him. Take into account that Cell had been absorbing people since the Piccolo fight, yet Krillin hurt him with physical strength which was something Tien never did anybody in Z outside a Saibabman and the Ginyu filler. In fact the only other time int h anime Tien tried to physically hurt someone solo and not use his haxed Tribeam was versus 17 who rag dolled him
- Krillin is stated to be the only human who trains to fight Cell at the Cll Games while Tien and Yamcha choose not to compete or prepare.
- Krillin also versus the Cell Jrs is the only human who didn't get out right dominated one on one. In fact the cell jr didn't even hurt him, until one of the ones piccolo attacked surprised him from behind, as he spent the early onslaught outright dodging every attack, whereas Tien and Yamcha got hammered straight up after blocking the first round of blows before Piccolo saved them.
- Krillin is shown to be able to train with 18 and implied to do it throughout the time leading to the tournament.
- Krillin says outright in th Funi dub when he hears about the no super saiyan rule, he can finish Ina top place, and that is without knowing about the junior division,which means he had to think or know he could take both base boys.
- Krillin in the anime was not scared of any of Babadis henchmen but Dabura, wow was ssj2 level, which is a testament to how strong he was (Tien too)
- While trunks gets the radar, Gotwn and Krillin are shown to spar equally on the lookout
- Krillin is brought to other world by King Kai as a plan b to fight Super Buu.
- To be exact, in the anime the Kai's note that Kid Buu was sensing for great powerslam the whole universe. Kid Buu senses Krillin and Yamcha sparring across the universe, which tells how strong they (Tien lumped in too) have become in the anime world. The other world fighters including Pikkon watched when Buu showed real power, yet Krillin and Yamcha attacked which basically showed that the three earthlings were universal beasts in the eyes of Toei and Funi
- In fact if you want to be technical, Yamcha pawned Olibu and another fighter from the tournament like they were fodder at once and bragged they couldn't touch him, yet he admitted to being inferior to Krillin. Krillin also stated while watching Yamcha that he can never get him to train seriously back on earth, which basically says Krillin has trained in that gap as I stated before.

* Piccolo let Tien come with him to look for Cell true, but you also need to remember that it was Krillin who came up with the plan to kill that timelines Cell and that Trunks was also there, so it had nothing to do with power as he could have easily went with piccolo while Tien went with Krillin since both Tien and Krillin were implied int eh anime to be weaker than Gohan in the android arc who Trunks says needs to stay behind and protect Goku from a possible android attack.

Summary
DB - Tien
Z Saiyan arc - Tien
Namek - Cell Games - Krillin
Post 7 years - EOZ - Tien

That is basically it in the manga and anime. No matter how you slice it, it is stated that Krillin was stronger by Yamcha in print and film than himself and Tien, and the only time he could make that comparison were the games. Krillins as simply thought of as being more relevant and essential to the team throughout the majority of Z.

I think you need to refresh your memory on the manga and anime. There is so much wrong with this post it would take all day to correct it.

Lonely Wolf

Jan 24 2012, 10:12 AM

The answer
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Teen GohanZ

Jan 25 2012, 11:43 PM

Why do people use Tien vs Cell as evidence?

Not only did Krillin never fight 2nd form Cell (Only in filler) the only way to accurately compare the 2 would be if Krillin had mastered Tri Beam to the exact same point as Tien, used it at full health and agaisnt a full health Cell who was caught off guard (So no blocking). Otherwise we learn nothing from it except Tien has a stronger move than Krillin.

Android 16 couldn't even touch Semi-Perfect Cell, so I guess the same logic means Tien >>>> Android 16 now?

Fulgore

Jan 25 2012, 11:50 PM

Teen GohanZ

Jan 25 2012, 11:43 PM

Why do people use Tien vs Cell as evidence?

Not only did Krillin never fight 2nd form Cell (Only in filler) the only way to accurately compare the 2 would be if Krillin had mastered Tri Beam to the exact same point as Tien, used it at full health and agaisnt a full health Cell who was caught off guard (So no blocking). Otherwise we learn nothing from it except Tien has a stronger move than Krillin.

Android 16 couldn't even touch Semi-Perfect Cell, so I guess the same logic means Tien >>>> Android 16 now?

The technique alone means Tien > krillin

Teen GohanZ

Jan 25 2012, 11:52 PM

Fulgore

Jan 25 2012, 11:50 PM

Teen GohanZ

Jan 25 2012, 11:43 PM

Why do people use Tien vs Cell as evidence?

Not only did Krillin never fight 2nd form Cell (Only in filler) the only way to accurately compare the 2 would be if Krillin had mastered Tri Beam to the exact same point as Tien, used it at full health and agaisnt a full health Cell who was caught off guard (So no blocking). Otherwise we learn nothing from it except Tien has a stronger move than Krillin.

Android 16 couldn't even touch Semi-Perfect Cell, so I guess the same logic means Tien >>>> Android 16 now?

The technique alone means Tien > krillin

It also means Tien > 16 then? That seems rather odd to me.