Buu Saga: An Underrated Saga?

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Buu Saga: An Underrated Saga?
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~~Ajith~~	Jan 18 2012, 11:33 AM Post #1
Posts: 187 Group: GTFO Member #6,754 Joined: September 15, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Was it an underrated saga actually? Be it even during its original airings in 1995 or even after years the show aired in CN. Was it ?



SuperSaiyan1993	Jan 18 2012, 01:54 PM Post #2
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	I think one of the major reasons that it's underrated is because it succeeds the Cell saga. That was the place where Toriyama wanted to end the series, and plot-wise it was the best place to do so (he also wanted to end DBZ at the frieza saga but that's a different story). Then, you have the buu saga and while the action is great, Majin Vegeta vs Goku Majin Vegeta vs Fat Buu etc., the plot can't compare to Cell and Frieza sagas. For example just off the top of my head: every character who wasn't a saiyan was now useless i.e. piccolo, and goku had many chances to kill buu but didn't. I however still very much like the saga because it delivers action through SSJ3 and fusion.
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+ Pyrus	Jan 18 2012, 02:05 PM Post #3
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	supersaiyan1993 Jan 18 2012, 01:54 PM I think one of the major reasons that it's underrated is because it succeeds the Cell saga. That was the place where Toriyama wanted to end the series, and plot-wise it was the best place to do so (he also wanted to end DBZ at the frieza saga but that's a different story). Then, you have the buu saga and while the action is great, Majin Vegeta vs Goku Majin Vegeta vs Fat Buu etc., the plot can't compare to Cell and Frieza sagas. For example just off the top of my head: every character who wasn't a saiyan was now useless i.e. piccolo, and goku had many chances to kill buu but didn't. I however still very much like the saga because it delivers action through SSJ3 and fusion. http://www.kanzentai.com/intended_end.php I think the saga is underrated because everybody's favorite Namekian is now trash, two kids get to fuse and become Super Saiyan 3, Goku isn't the almighty strongest at the end of the day, it wasn't entirely serious like the last few sagas, and the villain wasn't Cell or Freeza. I don't have a problem with any of that. Edited by Pyrus, Jan 18 2012, 02:06 PM.
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~~GrooseStrikesBack~~	Jan 18 2012, 02:34 PM Post #4
Posts: 4,614 Group: Suspended Member #6,508 Joined: July 20, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Steve Austin Show: Unleashed. What Browser do you use? Can o Whoop Ass. Favourite Manga Family Friendly Version of the Steve Austin Show.	I liked the Buu saga, the Fusions were epic, SS3 was epic, Mystic Gohan was epic, Majin Vegeta was epic, Dabura was epic everything was epic! IMO, this saga is on a different level than the others, my favourite was the Cell Saga, but if someone asked me which was better, I couldn't answer



Jamason	Jan 18 2012, 04:48 PM Post #5
SSj3 Goten Posts: 300 Group: Member Member #7,017 Joined: November 26, 2011	I loved the buu Saga. That one ties with the Freiza saga with me. But overall i can see why its so undersated. Goku made a bunch a dip**** moves. Gohn ends up leagues above everyone but sacrifices his transformations for it. 2 super saiyan 7 and 8 year olds that fuseand become a super saiyan 3. Plus a monster that never really got tired and had unlimited power and stamina and the most hax regeneration skill ever? The saga was just super far fetched.. But it was a very very good one.



Famicommander	Jan 18 2012, 06:00 PM Post #6
Jukebox hero Posts: 440 Group: Member Member #3,095 Joined: January 7, 2008 Favourite Anime Outlaw Star	No, I think it is overrated if anything. Buu is a hollow and generic character. His back story is nonsensical and uninteresting, he basically has no motivation, and the whole chocolate thing is embarrassing. The presence of advanced Super Saiyan levels, pretty much everyone going Super Saiyan, and the introduction of fusions basically takes a giant crap on the whole rest of the series. Previously, great warriors like Vegeta, Goku, and Tien had to train for years and even decades to make significant gains in power. But now, whether it be through some Kai magic, transformation, or fusion the main characters can multiply their power exponentially seemingly whenever the situation calls for it. It's just plain lazy writing. Everything past the first Super Saiyan form is complete overkill and it devalues the transformation. The stuff with Saiyaman and Gohan in school is painful to watch. I understand his social ignorance is supposed to create humorous situations and give Gohan some charm, and it does for about five minutes, but they just take it entirely too far. It's worse than the Para Brothers or Ginyu Force. The saga as a whole is over 100 epiodes long, which is insane. Everything is way too drawn out (even worse than Goku vs Frieza in "five minutes") and there is way too much filler. Mr Satan is annoying and has far too many segments while characters like Piccolo, Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu are almost completely disregarded. The overpowering of the Dragon Balls takes away any emotional aspect of the series. We have already seen mass populations destroyed and restored multiple times so it is hard to care when Buu kills everyone. Then they destroy Earth, which is pretty irrelevant considering the whole population is already dead when it happens. Every character who fights Buu is painted to be a complete moron (allowing Babadi to take their energy to revive Buu, not destroying the many pieces of Buu and instead standing there gawking as he regenerates, consistently under estimating him, getting absorbed...) It's by far the worst saga of DB or Z in my book. The only ones as bad are DB's wedding arc, the Garlic Jr Saga, Super 17, and the Shadow Dragon Saga.



FollowtheLeader	Jan 18 2012, 06:29 PM Post #7
Posts: 1,653 Group: Member Member #7,064 Joined: December 12, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Manga Berserk	It might be a bit underrated, because of all the silly ***** that happens. Here's a list 1. Piccolo, one of the best DBZ characters, does nothing. He's reduced to the same level as Krillin for crying out loud! 2. The whole "Fusion" thing...while cool at first...just seems stupid now. 3. It follows the god awful "Great Saiyaman" saga, which is the worst of DBZ. 4. Evil Buu wasn't around as long as he should have. 5. As the final saga, it ended with a lack luster "meh" Oh look, Goku's going away again. It's not like he could stay with his family. He's just gonna go off with a young boy he barely knows who is some how the good reincarnation of one of the most powerful villains in DBZ history. Makes perfect sense.



+ Clearin	Jan 18 2012, 06:32 PM Post #8
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	It's my 2nd favourite saga in the entire series (Including Dragonball). I feel like it just had more life and soul into it compared to the older saga's like Saiyan and Namek. Plus, dub wise, I feel this is where Funi were at their peak, and the music was the best imo.



DBZAOTA482	Jan 18 2012, 11:12 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	It didn't do a lot for the characters compared to the Cell Saga. Sure it added plenty to Vegeta but overall we can live without it.



Lonely Wolf	Jan 19 2012, 02:35 PM Post #10
Posts: 136 Group: Member Member #7,182 Joined: January 9, 2012	I love Raditz,Ginyu Force,Frieza,Android 17,Cell.. Spopovich,Dabura,Fat Buu,Kid Buu..not really..
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~~Victorious~~	Jan 19 2012, 11:30 PM Post #11
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	The Buu saga is just atrocious in the Funi dub but in the original Japanese anime it's tolerable IMO. It's still the most inferior saga in my opinion and cannot come close to matching the Cell or Freeza arcs. Buu was not a villain on par with Cell or Freeza's personality, the minor villains were all crappy as well (Dabura Pui Pui and Babidi? Mehh). Buu was all just a Cell..he absorbed and regenerated..but at least Cell couldnt just absorb anything and didnt regenerate a hundred freakin times. I think Cell used regeneration maybe 4 times the whole series. The introduction of Goten, Kid Trunks, and Gotenks was annoying..all very annoying characters IMO. Future Trunks was so much more likeable to Kid Trunks. Another think that sucked is Piccolo became completely irrelevant. At least for the first half of the Cell arc he was right with everyone in the middle of the action and his power was still fearsome. Buu saga he's just fodder. And Gohan, teen Gohan sucked, he couldn't compare to the Gohan that fought Cell. So yeah the Buu arc really was deteriorated compared to the other arcs IMO. About the only thing I liked in the whole arc was Super Vegetto..that's it. Edited by Victorious, Jan 19 2012, 11:38 PM.
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Toji	Jan 20 2012, 02:26 AM Post #12
ザラブファントム Posts: 1,102 Group: Member Member #5,229 Joined: September 11, 2010 Gender Other What Browser do you use? Chrome	The buu story arc was just one big mess...
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ForagingPanda	Jan 21 2012, 06:41 AM Post #13
Posts: 61 Group: Member Member #7,144 Joined: December 30, 2011	The Buu saga started off good, I liked seeing the tournament group of Goku, Vegeta, 18, Krillin, Piccolo all hanging out together. It quickly became boring after the tournament dissolved and people started chasing after Babidi's minions. Buu saga didn't really introduce any great characters, either. All the versions of Majin Buu were pretty mute. I think the fat one was the most vocal but he just babbled about candy and he was hard to take seriously even when he beat people up. The Kai's and Kaveto (think was his name) didn't do anything and were weak compared to Dabura, who turned out ot be eerily similar to Mr Satan in south park (his flower field frolicking scenes). Babidi was hard to look at since his head resembled an insect's butt.



SS2Zone	Jan 21 2012, 06:48 AM Post #14
Posts: 11 Group: New Member Member #7,220 Joined: January 21, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DBZ	The story was horrible, the "amazing" plot twists weren't really amazing, and all these stupid forms and whose stronger can confuse the hell out of anybody (Kid Buu vs Super Buu, what happened to the absorbed Kais, how Fat Buu returns, etc). Plus, I always thought that it was kind of stupid how this magic sorcerer can create this invincible monster... how does he generate enough energy to even create such a thing? It really seemed like Toriyama made all these forms and plot twists because he was being pressured to continue the series for as long as possible. The only thing I really liked was SS3, Fusion, Anime Vegito, and the ending.



~~Espionage~~	Jan 21 2012, 07:00 AM Post #15
Posts: 130 Group: GTFO Member #6,345 Joined: June 11, 2011	Underrated implies it should be higher ranked. It's not nearly as good as the first two sagas. I would go as far as to say it was a failure but I'm not a dbzhard and I did enjoy Vegito a lot. It was decent far as entertainment goes



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