Jesus vs Religon

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Jesus vs Religon
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 13 2012, 01:55 PM (2,677 Views)
* Sousen Ichimonji	Jan 15 2012, 01:23 AM Post #46
You are calm and reposed, let your beauty unfold Posts: 4,176 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,986 Joined: February 15, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Avatar What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Ai Kora	Seruphim So no, religious people are not the only ones with a valid excuse to call out others. No-one has, in common circumstances, that right. Not theists, not atheists.
	Call me a safe bet, I'm betting I'm not I'm glad that you can forgive, only hoping as time goes, you can forget


Seruphim	Jan 15 2012, 01:25 AM Post #47
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	Voltaire Jan 15 2012, 01:23 AM Seruphim So no, religious people are not the only ones with a valid excuse to call out others. No-one has, in common circumstances, that right. Not theists, not atheists. People, in general, don't have the right to call others out?



SirParagon	Jan 15 2012, 01:26 AM Post #48
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Voltaire Jan 15 2012, 01:23 AM Seruphim So no, religious people are not the only ones with a valid excuse to call out others. No-one has, in common circumstances, that right. Not theists, not atheists. That's just silly, you're basically saying that everyone is allowed to hold onto illogical opinions without copping some flak because that might hurt their feelings. It doesn't matter if the doctor offends you with their diagnosis, they're still trying to help. Edited by SirParagon, Jan 15 2012, 01:28 AM.
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* Sousen Ichimonji	Jan 15 2012, 01:29 AM Post #49
You are calm and reposed, let your beauty unfold Posts: 4,176 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,986 Joined: February 15, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Avatar What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Ai Kora	In common circumstances, in regards to religion, people should not feel they have the right to tell a person that they feel that their opinion, their heritage-borne beliefs, are wrong. If they saw a person use their belief as grounds to perform an action that is morally questionable, then they have every right to "call them out". But not for having an opinion you disagree with.
	Call me a safe bet, I'm betting I'm not I'm glad that you can forgive, only hoping as time goes, you can forget


SirParagon	Jan 15 2012, 01:37 AM Post #50
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Yes violence should never enter the scenario, but I disagree, believes formed through heritage and tradition deserve to be criticized the most. They tend to be the imprinted opinion of someone else rather than one formed through some sort of personal enlightenment. Edited by SirParagon, Jan 15 2012, 01:41 AM.
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Seruphim	Jan 15 2012, 01:41 AM Post #51
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	SirParagon Jan 15 2012, 01:37 AM Yes violence should never enter the scenario, but I disagree, believes formed through heritage and tradition deserve to be criticized the most. this you're never going to expand your mind and learn new things if you don't open it to other ideals. I agree that you shouldn't call people out just to be mean, but you also shouldn't close your mind off to outside influence



* Sousen Ichimonji	Jan 15 2012, 01:45 AM Post #52
You are calm and reposed, let your beauty unfold Posts: 4,176 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,986 Joined: February 15, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Avatar What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Ai Kora	But is it really your responsibility to educate an individual in a subject that they already feel content with? Especially, and most commonly, in what can simply be described as an argument where the atheist will assert their utter correctness just as blindly as the theist will?
	Call me a safe bet, I'm betting I'm not I'm glad that you can forgive, only hoping as time goes, you can forget


Meowth	Jan 15 2012, 02:07 AM Post #53
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Voltaire Jan 15 2012, 01:45 AM in what can simply be described as an argument where the atheist will assert their utter correctness just as blindly as the theist will? In most cases where an athiest says something, they back it up with scientific research, in which theists don't do because there isn't any research that I am aware of.



Seruphim	Jan 15 2012, 02:08 AM Post #54
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	Voltaire Jan 15 2012, 01:45 AM But is it really your responsibility to educate an individual in a subject that they already feel content with? Especially, and most commonly, in what can simply be described as an argument where the atheist will assert their utter correctness just as blindly as the theist will? I don't think it's right that people close off their minds to learning. It's tragedy, if you ask me. But I won't bring up the subject every time we're together or talk about it all the time. I will let them know that I'm here to talk about whatever they want concerning religion and I'll give my ideas if they ask. But cornering them and forcing down their throats, no.



~~I have come to reclaim Rome!~~	Jan 15 2012, 03:33 PM Post #55
Posts: 59 Group: Suspended Member #7,185 Joined: January 10, 2012	Jesus is a Mithra rip-off. Nuff' said.



.:.MS.:.	Feb 6 2012, 11:10 PM Post #56
Posts: 18 Group: New Member Member #7,289 Joined: February 6, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	I'm not big on religious arguments but, I'm More agnostic than atheist and this video explains it perfect. Just about everything the man says is a contradiction. I believe the bible is invalid. If there is a god, I don't believe he approves the views of the bible. Every verse has a similar contradiction and is written by men. I have always been open to the chance of a god, but I seek further proof. This view on religion is completely false and invalid. Those accepting this view are looking for an easy way to explain why they don't go to church. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't religion your sole view on a particular way to live life. I feel the bible is more or less instructions. If I ever convert back to believing in a god, I will never call myself a christian. Christianity is full of separation, and completely destroys the basis of Christianity. Christianity is supposed to be worshipers who come together and express their undying love for god. Now please note that I have mixed my opinion in on this post and it is not strictly fact although a lot of it is inferred information and fact. Edited by .:.MS.:., Feb 6 2012, 11:19 PM.



~~Destiny~~	Feb 7 2012, 03:10 AM Post #57
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	Aren't the savage and hateful verses from the Old Testament and not from the New Testament? I can't recall a passage in which Jesus can be seen as being morally wrong/invalid even in today's ethics. It's not to say there isn't any room for interpretation of passages but can he really be called evil now?



SirParagon	Feb 10 2012, 05:09 AM Post #58
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	What always confuses me is how people can disregard the old testament in favor of the new one yet believe both are the workings of god. If you think the old testament does not represented the works of god then why the hell should the new testament? If both are indeed the works of god then god is a loathsome tool. Edited by SirParagon, Feb 10 2012, 05:10 AM.
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~~Destiny~~	Feb 10 2012, 05:39 AM Post #59
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	SirParagon Feb 10 2012, 05:09 AM What always confuses me is how people can disregard the old testament in favor of the new one yet believe both are the workings of god. If you think the old testament does not represented the works of god then why the hell should the new testament? If both are indeed the works of god then god is a loathsome tool. Because it's from Jesus. Fits your morale and what you seek in life. Perhaps in olden days did the Old Testament do well for others but the revamping of it had to come or else God would have stuck with the Old testament.



Vince	Feb 10 2012, 05:40 AM Post #60
DBZF'S Original Lurker Posts: 362 Group: Demi-God Member #4,502 Joined: October 4, 2009 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Sword art online and Seraph of the end What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	This topic will be argued until death.I noticed we have a large atheist/agnostic population. I love it! I'm normally thrashed on for my belief, strangely not in school but anywhere online i am. Edited by Vince, Feb 10 2012, 05:40 AM.



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