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Destructo Disk
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 10 2012, 02:41 PM (2,855 Views)
SuperSaiyan1993	Jan 10 2012, 02:41 PM Post #1
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	How is Krillin able to damage Nappa and Frieza with this technique? It's a very good technique but the power gaps between Krillin and Nappa/ Frieza were considerably high. Both outclassed him and yet he was almost able to take off Nappa's head and cut off Frieza's tail
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SirParagon	Jan 10 2012, 03:01 PM Post #2
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	I haven't read the manga, but there appears to be some inconsistencies regarding the effect of destructo disk in the anime (in that the times it was used and landed a direct hit with little effect did not occur in the manga, it was just filler). the technique is supposed to be able to cut through anything regardless of power gaps. Edited by SirParagon, Jan 10 2012, 03:01 PM.
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24KakarotGold	Jan 23 2012, 06:30 AM Post #3
Posts: 8 Group: New Member Member #7,229 Joined: January 23, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? FireCocks Favourite Manga Manga? No	I don't have a problem with hurting Nappa but the whole Frieza thing just shouldn't have been able to occur. It's probably like a sword edge vs a baseball bat. The thinner surface makes it easier to cut through things. Edited by 24KakarotGold, Jan 23 2012, 06:31 AM.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Jan 23 2012, 03:52 PM Post #4
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	It can basically cut through anything maybe, or at least cut way above the user's power level. In the manga the destructo disc/kienzan never failed to cut through anything, so it's unknown if it can be stopped.
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lunar2	Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM Post #5
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	the kienzan is able to cut absolutely anything it touches. theoretically, even a katchin block wouldn't be able to stand against saiyan saga krillin's kienzan. the only defenses against a kienzan are to outrun it or dodge it. neither are particularly difficult, though, since it's a slow, noisy technique.
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SuperSaiyan1993	Jan 23 2012, 05:10 PM Post #6
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	What about when Perfect Cell and SSJ2 Gohan were immune to the attack? Perfect Cell- Krillin's attack didn't phase him SSJ2 Gohan - Caught Cell's attack I'm presuming then that these two events only occurred in the anime?
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+ Clearin	Jan 23 2012, 05:34 PM Post #7
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	supersaiyan1993 Jan 23 2012, 05:10 PM What about when Perfect Cell and SSJ2 Gohan were immune to the attack? Perfect Cell- Krillin's attack didn't phase him SSJ2 Gohan - Caught Cell's attack I'm presuming then that these two events only occurred in the anime? Yep, only in filler. The last time it was used in the Manga was against 2nd form Freeza.



lunar2	Jan 23 2012, 08:11 PM Post #8
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	actually, the last time it was used in the manga was against buutenks by goku. the kienzan was a generic attack that at least 5 people knew how to do. krillin, vegeta, frieza, cell, and goku.
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~~Victorious~~	Jan 23 2012, 08:37 PM Post #9
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	manga wise it cut through Freeza but it should have a limit...people saying it does not have limit is pretty stupid. That's like saying Final Flash has no limit since the only time it was fired Final Flash ripped through it's opponent..and the gap between Vegeta and Cell there was huge. Edited by Victorious, Jan 23 2012, 08:40 PM.
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+ Pyrus	Jan 23 2012, 08:46 PM Post #10
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Victorious Jan 23 2012, 08:37 PM manga wise it cut through Freeza but it should have a limit...people saying it does not have limit is pretty stupid. That's like saying Final Flash has no limit since the only time it was fired Final Flash ripped through it's opponent..and the gap between Vegeta and Cell there was huge. That's a little different. The Kienzan is stated to cut through anything (maybe not in the manga itself, but in guidebooks), while the Final Flash was never touted to do be able to do so.
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~~Victorious~~	Jan 23 2012, 08:51 PM Post #11
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	ObsessiveFanGuy Jan 23 2012, 08:46 PM Victorious Jan 23 2012, 08:37 PM manga wise it cut through Freeza but it should have a limit...people saying it does not have limit is pretty stupid. That's like saying Final Flash has no limit since the only time it was fired Final Flash ripped through it's opponent..and the gap between Vegeta and Cell there was huge. That's a little different. The Kienzan is stated to cut through anything (maybe not in the manga itself, but in guidebooks), while the Final Flash was never touted to do be able to do so. Well Guidebooks aren't canon. Anime filler should be taken as equal authority to them IMO. Edited by Victorious, Jan 23 2012, 08:58 PM.
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lunar2	Jan 23 2012, 09:16 PM Post #12
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	no. anime is nowhere near as reliable as guidebooks. you are right, guidebooks aren't canon, but kienzan has also never failed to cut in canon. the gap between vegeta and cell was much smaller than the gap between krillin and frieza, btw. krillin was, at best, maybe 1/3 of frieza's power, while vegeta was over 1/2 of cell's power. still, krillin's kienzan cut nappa, who was ~4x stronger than krillin. it cut frieza, who was ~3x stronger than krillin. ssj3 goku's kienzan cut buutenks, who was ~40x stronger than goku. there may be a limit to the attack, but that limit never came up in the series.
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~~Victorious~~	Jan 23 2012, 09:27 PM Post #13
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	Quote: no. anime is nowhere near as reliable as guidebooks. Neither are reliable totally but neither are canon and both should be ignored. But if anyone brings up Guidbooks I can bring up filler. Quote: while vegeta was over 1/2 of cell's power. That's your opinion...my equal authoritative opinion has Cell nearly 4x Vegeta there. Quote: still, krillin's kienzan cut nappa, who was ~4x stronger than krillin. it cut frieza, who was ~3x stronger than krillin. ssj3 goku's kienzan cut buutenks, who was ~40x stronger than goku. there may be a limit to the attack, but that limit never came up in the series. Yajirobe is weaker than a Saibaman and his Sword can cut through Oozaru Vegeta..that's a bigger feat than anything Kienzan ever did. So Yaji's Sword can cut Super Vegetto you think? It has no limits? Mehh Also I wouldn't take much feats on Buu seriously...Machine gun bullets pierced him and that's something Kid Goku tanked. Edited by Victorious, Jan 23 2012, 09:28 PM.
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ziro	Jan 23 2012, 09:33 PM Post #14
Posts: 45 Group: Member Member #4,504 Joined: October 5, 2009	Victorious Jan 23 2012, 09:27 PM Yajirobe is weaker than a Saibaman and his Sword can cut through Oozaru Vegeta..that's a bigger feat than anything Kienzan ever did. So Yaji's Sword can cut Super Vegetto you think? It has no limits? Mehh Cutting frieza's tail >> Cutting Oozaru tail
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~~Victorious~~	Jan 23 2012, 09:34 PM Post #15
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	ziro Jan 23 2012, 09:33 PM Victorious Jan 23 2012, 09:27 PM Yajirobe is weaker than a Saibaman and his Sword can cut through Oozaru Vegeta..that's a bigger feat than anything Kienzan ever did. So Yaji's Sword can cut Super Vegetto you think? It has no limits? Mehh Cutting frieza's tail >> Cutting Oozaru tail No way dude, Yaji is like 1/100th or less than Vegeta there. Krillin should be at minimum like 1/25th 2nd form Freeza. Anyway, both were kinda by surprise which Is why I see either of them even cutting their opponents. Edited by Victorious, Jan 23 2012, 09:41 PM.
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