Who's to blame: the parent or the child?

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Who's to blame: the parent or the child?
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sylentknyte	Feb 17 2012, 02:47 AM Post #46
Posts: 790 Group: Member Member #5,932 Joined: March 30, 2011	The adults are to blame, almost 100% of the time, imo. Sometimes you get a child who is a bad egg, but I think good parenting and guidance will almost always make a good human being. During my childhood, I went from skinny to near-obese. I changed things when I was old enough to really change my own life (15-16), and lost weight. But honestly, it ruined my childhood in some ways, and ruined my self esteem, which I only really rebuilt in my late teens. Its one thing I'll never forgive my parents for, and I'm never letting it happen to any kid I have. Sure, I ate the mcdonalds, the candy, and drank the pop that was provided for me. But who provided it? Who gave me that food, and formed my bad eating habits? F*ck them.



SirParagon	Feb 17 2012, 03:05 AM Post #47
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	I underwent a similar transformation, but you cannot lay all the blame on your parents because they too were influenced by how your grandparents raised them and so on. Edited by SirParagon, Feb 17 2012, 03:06 AM.
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sylentknyte	Feb 17 2012, 03:15 AM Post #48
Posts: 790 Group: Member Member #5,932 Joined: March 30, 2011	SirParagon Feb 17 2012, 03:05 AM I underwent a similar transformation, but you cannot lay all the blame on your parents because they too were influenced by how your grandparents raised them and so on. Well, not really. I think there has to come a certain point where you are a grown man or woman, and you make your own choices. I mean, sure, your parents raise you one way. I was raised to be a fatass, and I broke out of it when I grew up. Just thinking about the food that I got back then really sicken's me. Mcdonalds all the time, etc. But anyways, I don't actually hold a grudge against them. I'm not angry at them or anything. But I still find it hard to forgive, and I will never, ever, raise my kids that way.



SirParagon	Feb 17 2012, 04:13 AM Post #49
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Even the way you make choices is influenced by how you were raised.
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Fulgore	Feb 17 2012, 04:25 AM Post #50
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Society has become too lenient and protective of children. It has created an entire generation of parents terrified to discipline their children. Children are spoiled, directly because of everyone outside of the family having aggressively opinionated views on how children should be raised.
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+ Pyrus	Feb 17 2012, 04:29 AM Post #51
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Fulgore Feb 17 2012, 04:25 AM Society has become too lenient and protective of children. It has created an entire generation of parents terrified to discipline their children. Children are spoiled, directly because of everyone outside of the family having aggressively opinionated views on how children should be raised. I think so, too. Society is to blame, not the parents anymore (at least not fully). If parents raised their kids how they really wanted to, some *** would come along and call child services, the parents would be fined, and the kids would be moved to a shelter or something. Parents get a lot of unwarranted crap nowadays; they can only do so much before the law steps in to intervene. I wish society wouldn't pamper kids so much. It's become crazy. They're so selfish and self-entitled now. Back in the day, you'd only see the very rich kids like that, but now you see the whole lot of them...in my opinion. Edited by Pyrus**, Feb 17 2012, 04:30 AM.
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SirParagon	Feb 17 2012, 04:33 AM Post #52
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	I think you guys are forgetting that the branches of the tree do not grow the roots... in the same way society is the result of how children are raised within the family. You can continue crafting ad hominems directed at particular parties, but it's all essentially empty words and generalized assumption. Edited by SirParagon, Feb 17 2012, 04:37 AM.
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+ Pyrus	Feb 17 2012, 04:35 AM Post #53
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	SirParagon Feb 17 2012, 04:33 AM I think you guys are forgetting that the branches of the tree do not grow the roots... in the same way society is the result of how children are raised within the family. You can continue crafting ad hominems directed at particular parties, but it's all essentially empty words. You speak in riddles, my Russian friend.
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Fulgore	Feb 17 2012, 04:36 AM Post #54
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	SirParagon Feb 17 2012, 04:33 AM I think you guys are forgetting that the branches of the tree do not grow the roots... in the same way society is the result of how children are raised within the family. No, it's really not. Traditional values/methods of child rearing that were implemented in previous generations have becoming increasingly frowned upon by Society. Most of these 'watchdog' groups are *****ing outrageous. You spank your child and suddenly you're 'beating' them.
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SirParagon	Feb 17 2012, 04:39 AM Post #55
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	I implore you to look into the merits of spanking/'traditional values'. It is abuse, nothing more. Such abuse that starts in the family rears its ugly head in society. Anyway we're currently in a state of hypocrisy where it is politically incorrect to spank children, but most people still do it anyway. Edited by SirParagon, Feb 17 2012, 04:41 AM.
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Fulgore	Feb 17 2012, 04:42 AM Post #56
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	SirParagon Feb 17 2012, 04:39 AM I implore you to look into the merits of spanking/'traditional values'. It is abuse, nothing more. Such abuse that starts in the family rears its ugly head in society. Really? Because I look at previous generations from the 1900-1960's and I see admirable people. Almost everyone from my generation I find lacking, and don't get me started on the 1995+ Kids. ARE YOU ***ING KDIDING ME? Almost no parents I know spank their children. I SEE CHILDREN SAYING THEY'LL TELL SOCIAL SERVICES IF THEY DONT GET X. It's ridiculous, parents are SCARED to go to jail. * I know this as fact because my little brother lied to his teacher and said my mother was beating him. Social Services jumped all over her *. This was over 10 years ago. So don't hand me this *, about people still beating their children. No. If a child puts up a fuss in the store you don't ever see parents spanking that kid's * for blatantly disrespecting them in public. No. You don't EVER see this anymore. Edited by Fulgore**, Feb 17 2012, 04:45 AM.
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SirParagon	Feb 17 2012, 04:45 AM Post #57
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	...and of course that period was an utter golden age for society, now wasn't it? War-time propaganda comes to mind. Also calm down, clearly you're becoming oddly defensive. Edited by SirParagon, Feb 17 2012, 04:50 AM.
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Fulgore	Feb 17 2012, 04:46 AM Post #58
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	SirParagon Feb 17 2012, 04:45 AM ...and of course that period was an utter golden age for society now wasn't it? War-time propaganda comes to mind. Wow. You're ridiculous.
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SirParagon	Feb 17 2012, 05:00 AM Post #59
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Fulgore Feb 17 2012, 04:46 AM SirParagon Feb 17 2012, 04:45 AM ...and of course that period was an utter golden age for society now wasn't it? War-time propaganda comes to mind. Wow. You're ridiculous. Any... reason?
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sylentknyte	Feb 17 2012, 04:44 PM Post #60
Posts: 790 Group: Member Member #5,932 Joined: March 30, 2011	I disagree with this "society" notion. The only thing not sanctioned is beating your kids, which I agree with, because it messes them up in the long run. You also can't neglect, or have sex with them, also two things everyone should agree with. Besides that, what restrictions are there? Shooting your daughter's laptop with a gun? That is pretty well abuse imo. Besides letting my weight get out of control, my mother raised me well. You have to be firm.



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