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SSJ Broly (Movie 8) vs Pikkon
Topic Started: Jan 2 2012, 07:15 AM (1,498 Views)
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In the anime, Pikkon trashed away Super Perfect Cell in two hits. Pikkon stomps.
"Suppressed" Cell mind you,he could've been as suppressed as his initial transformation
Not to mention Goku was fighting well against him in hand to hand combat
There is NO such thing as a SUPPRESSED SPC!!

none!!

Not to mention he was making a bee line for goku who couldnt defend himself, pikkon used his burnbing shoot technique which is similar to gokus kaioken, im tired of people making this excuse, it doesnt hold water for ANY reason. SPC IS spc ALL the time, not some of the time. He was well on his way to clobbering goku, a kick to the chin and a chop to the neck put him DOWN!! not even kid gohan could do that.

Goku as an mssj used a 100x kaioken and a super kamehameha against pikkon and he POWERED through it,

what kind of level would goku be on as an FPMSSJ with 100x kaioken? definitely >>>broly movie 8
Exactly, it makes no sense to be SUPER perfect cell and be suppressed. It's like saying Ultimate Gohan is suppressed. Pikkon GODstomps Broly to nonexistent. Try using LSSJ for something worth honestly.
So Cell has no aura and wants to have fun fighting Goku again, yet he's going full blast? I fail to see how that makes any sense.
Why would he need a aura? Like I said him being Super Perfect Cell makes it impossible to be suppressed. He was SPC by the way. Just like Frieza was in he's final form.
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Isn't Super Perfect Cell only so because he got a Zenkai? I don't really see how it stops him from being able to suppress his power.

Anyway, I still think that Pikkon's technique would beat Broly (he's not likely to figure out it's weakness is he? lol)
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Isn't Super Perfect Cell only so because he got a Zenkai? I don't really see how it stops him from being able to suppress his power.

Anyway, I still think that Pikkon's technique would beat Broly (he's not likely to figure out it's weakness is he? lol)
I agree, if Cell can't change form after going Super Perfect (Which is never stated) Frieza souldn't be able to change after going into his 100% Full Power form, but he did, so I am going to say that Cell was in his Perfect form when Pikkon defeated him.
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Jan 3 2012, 06:22 AM
Isn't Super Perfect Cell only so because he got a Zenkai? I don't really see how it stops him from being able to suppress his power.

Anyway, I still think that Pikkon's technique would beat Broly (he's not likely to figure out it's weakness is he? lol)
No, he's a complete new and stronger Cell. The blast changed him anew as such he's at 100% all the time and can't suppress.
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Nothing states he can't surpress his power.
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Nobody in DBZ CAN'T suppress their power.So it's and idiotic assumption on Sasukes part saying Post zenkai Cell can't suppress his power.

No battle aura=not full power.
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Jan 3 2012, 09:16 AM
Nobody in DBZ CAN'T suppress their power.So it's and idiotic assumption on Sasukes part saying Post zenkai Cell can't suppress his power.

No battle aura=not full power.
And why can't people understand this!?
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because YOU dont make the rules thats why, WHO said that super perfect cell could suppress down to perfect cell? did he? NO, as a master of fact he stays super perfect because he WANTS to!!

you guys saying NO aura no power up should be saying the same for gohan in movie 10. But i dont hear you.

Super perfect cell didnt NEED to power up when he got back to earth did he? NO!

he came back shot trunks and all hell broke loose.

He was REMADE super perfect cell without 18 in him also. But that was chopped up to his memory banks keeping the configuration. Saying he wasnt ready to beat goku down is ridiculous.

Pikkon putting him in his place was SUPPOSED to happen, accept it.

Making excuses when it was made clear cell was no longer gonna be a threat is just herp derp crap. Vegeta was just an assj2 when he threw his big bang and crumpled cells leg. Not much of a distraction but it affected him in some way apparently, and SPC was at full power then, so if he could be affected by an assj2 then he could definitely be felled by a guy stronger than a kaioken 100x goku while using a kaioken technique of his own and putting cells dick in the dirt. Not hard to believe unless you just hate.

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Jan 3 2012, 10:49 AM
because YOU dont make the rules thats why, WHO said that super perfect cell could suppress down to perfect cell? did he? NO, as a master of fact he stays super perfect because he WANTS to!!

you guys saying NO aura no power up should be saying the same for gohan in movie 10. But i dont hear you.

Super perfect cell didnt NEED to power up when he got back to earth did he? NO!

he came back shot trunks and all hell broke loose.

He was REMADE super perfect cell without 18 in him also. But that was chopped up to his memory banks keeping the configuration. Saying he wasnt ready to beat goku down is ridiculous.

Pikkon putting him in his place was SUPPOSED to happen, accept it.

Making excuses when it was made clear cell was no longer gonna be a threat is just herp derp crap. Vegeta was just an assj2 when he threw his big bang and crumpled cells leg. Not much of a distraction but it affected him in some way apparently, and SPC was at full power then, so if he could be affected by an assj2 then he could definitely be felled by a guy stronger than a kaioken 100x goku while using a kaioken technique of his own and putting cells dick in the dirt. Not hard to believe unless you just hate.

I can't wait until you're banned, it's only a matter of time ^_^

I didn't say that I made the rules, but Cell's Perfect and Super Perfect forms look identical, so for all you know he could have been surpressing power or he was in his Perfect form, I'm guessing this because if he couldn't possibly change form after going Super Perfect, Frieza souldn't be able to change back either, but Frieza was in his Final Form against Pikkon, not 100% Full Power, and if Cell was Super Perfect or not, it doesn't matter, he thought he was going to fight Goku, then Pikkon comes from out of nowhere and takes Cell by surprize, there is no way that Pikkon could beat Cell in a real, clean fight.
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I'm damn serious

SPC is just PC with a zenkai,we've seen vegeta get multiple Zenkais on namek,but was he full power at the beginning of his fight with 1st form freiza?no,he powered up from his suppressed state.

Cell being in his perfect form without 18 is a plot without any explanation,but that leads me into making a theory.That cell with enough human absorbs could've reached Perfect form without the androids...
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Jan 3 2012, 11:08 AM
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Jan 3 2012, 10:49 AM
because YOU dont make the rules thats why, WHO said that super perfect cell could suppress down to perfect cell? did he? NO, as a master of fact he stays super perfect because he WANTS to!!

you guys saying NO aura no power up should be saying the same for gohan in movie 10. But i dont hear you.

Super perfect cell didnt NEED to power up when he got back to earth did he? NO!

he came back shot trunks and all hell broke loose.

He was REMADE super perfect cell without 18 in him also. But that was chopped up to his memory banks keeping the configuration. Saying he wasnt ready to beat goku down is ridiculous.

Pikkon putting him in his place was SUPPOSED to happen, accept it.

Making excuses when it was made clear cell was no longer gonna be a threat is just herp derp crap. Vegeta was just an assj2 when he threw his big bang and crumpled cells leg. Not much of a distraction but it affected him in some way apparently, and SPC was at full power then, so if he could be affected by an assj2 then he could definitely be felled by a guy stronger than a kaioken 100x goku while using a kaioken technique of his own and putting cells dick in the dirt. Not hard to believe unless you just hate.

I can't wait until you're banned, it's only a matter of time ^_^

I didn't say that I made the rules, but Cell's Perfect and Super Perfect forms look identical, so for all you know he could have been surpressing power or he was in his Perfect form, I'm guessing this because if he couldn't possibly change form after going Super Perfect, Frieza souldn't be able to change back either, but Frieza was in his Final Form against Pikkon, not 100% Full Power, and if Cell was Super Perfect or not, it doesn't matter, he thought he was going to fight Goku, then Pikkon comes from out of nowhere and takes Cell by surprize, there is no way that Pikkon could beat Cell in a real, clean fight.
huh? for starters ive been here alot longer, you need to check my warning label. i dont come cheap, you talk crap to me you get told whats up.

Why do you keep comparing a guy with 4 forms and a possible 5th to cell? cell only mutated after consuming the cyborgs.

If you want to make a point about frieza then use mecha frieza, you know? the one trunks killed? im pretty sure HE couldnt turn back into his old self, and he was stronger than before, so your points are moot, and your just babbling cause you THINK it will earn you brownie points. It wont. Say something that convinces me you are here to talk DBZ or you will be reported for trolling.

banned :lol: ive never even been suspended... :huh:
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because YOU dont make the rules thats why, WHO said that super perfect cell could suppress down to perfect cell? did he? NO, as a master of fact he stays super perfect because he WANTS to!!

you guys saying NO aura no power up should be saying the same for gohan in movie 10. But i dont hear you.

Super perfect cell didnt NEED to power up when he got back to earth did he? NO!

he came back shot trunks and all hell broke loose.

He was REMADE super perfect cell without 18 in him also. But that was chopped up to his memory banks keeping the configuration. Saying he wasnt ready to beat goku down is ridiculous.

Pikkon putting him in his place was SUPPOSED to happen, accept it.

Making excuses when it was made clear cell was no longer gonna be a threat is just herp derp crap. Vegeta was just an assj2 when he threw his big bang and crumpled cells leg. Not much of a distraction but it affected him in some way apparently, and SPC was at full power then, so if he could be affected by an assj2 then he could definitely be felled by a guy stronger than a kaioken 100x goku while using a kaioken technique of his own and putting cells dick in the dirt. Not hard to believe unless you just hate.

I can't wait until you're banned, it's only a matter of time ^_^

I didn't say that I made the rules, but Cell's Perfect and Super Perfect forms look identical, so for all you know he could have been surpressing power or he was in his Perfect form, I'm guessing this because if he couldn't possibly change form after going Super Perfect, Frieza souldn't be able to change back either, but Frieza was in his Final Form against Pikkon, not 100% Full Power, and if Cell was Super Perfect or not, it doesn't matter, he thought he was going to fight Goku, then Pikkon comes from out of nowhere and takes Cell by surprize, there is no way that Pikkon could beat Cell in a real, clean fight.
huh? for starters ive been here alot longer, you need to check my warning label. i dont come cheap, you talk crap to me you get told whats up.

Why do you keep comparing a guy with 4 forms and a possible 5th to cell? cell only mutated after consuming the cyborgs.

If you want to make a point about frieza then use mecha frieza, you know? the one trunks killed? im pretty sure HE couldnt turn back into his old self, and he was stronger than before, so your points are moot, and your just babbling cause you THINK it will earn you brownie points. It wont. Say something that convinces me you are here to talk DBZ or you will be reported for trolling.

banned :lol: ive never even been suspended... :huh:
Reported for Trolling? I am just sharing an opinion, your just acting like a giant douche when I am trying to be apart of a SERIOUS disscusion, and it doesn't matter if you were here longer, I am being more well behaved, and I bet I am a lot more liked here than you are, I won't bother to read your posts anymore, welcome to my ignored users list buddy!

Back on topic, I have Pikkon = to FPSS Goku (Cell Games), and I have FPSS Goku (Cell Games) above SS Broly (Movie 8), so...

Pikkon = FPSS Goku (Cell Games) > SS Broly (Movie 8).

Pikkon takes this.
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^But RSSJ Broly is in fact stronger than MSSJ Goku,Goku wasn't too sure if he would be able to win against him,and Kaio also said something about Broly being stronger:
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In the anime, Pikkon trashed away Super Perfect Cell in two hits. Pikkon stomps.
"Suppressed" Cell mind you,he could've been as suppressed as his initial transformation
Not to mention Goku was fighting well against him in hand to hand combat
There is NO such thing as a SUPPRESSED SPC!!

none!!

Not to mention he was making a bee line for goku who couldnt defend himself, pikkon used his burnbing shoot technique which is similar to gokus kaioken, im tired of people making this excuse, it doesnt hold water for ANY reason. SPC IS spc ALL the time, not some of the time. He was well on his way to clobbering goku, a kick to the chin and a chop to the neck put him DOWN!! not even kid gohan could do that.

Goku as an mssj used a 100x kaioken and a super kamehameha against pikkon and he POWERED through it,

what kind of level would goku be on as an FPMSSJ with 100x kaioken? definitely >>>broly movie 8
Exactly, it makes no sense to be SUPER perfect cell and be suppressed. It's like saying Ultimate Gohan is suppressed. Pikkon GODstomps Broly to nonexistent. Try using LSSJ for something worth honestly.
So Cell has no aura and wants to have fun fighting Goku again, yet he's going full blast? I fail to see how that makes any sense.
Why would he need a aura? Like I said him being Super Perfect Cell makes it impossible to be suppressed. He was SPC by the way. Just like Frieza was in he's final form.
Freeza is always in his final form despite being able to regress before dying? I don't see how that makes any sense either, dude.

Cell can suppress his power. What in the blue hell makes you think he can't? Everybody can suppress their power at that point in the series. How is Cell going to have a fun fight with Goku if he's at full power? He'd smack Goku in half with his pinkie. :(
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I believed that to be true KP which is the reason pikkon got introduced in the first place. It was all part of the plan.

Vegeta-rules- i dont know where you THINK you are being anything other than uncivil, but its plain to see that you are in FACT trolling and i will report you, as i am not convinced you even answered to discuss dbz, but to pretend anyone is really here to actually talk to YOU other than discuss the topic.

Your ignore list is gonna be pretty long if you keep spouting this nonsense.

anyways, rssj broly might be able to fend off the androids one on one but not together imo. ssj>them alive

look ive SEEN the pikkon Vs cell clip again and and again, and in it every single time? is cell running(moving, flying) towards goku at what seems like incredible speed, if it wasnt for pikkon speeding throught with his OWN technique? goku would have bit the dust and pikkons mission would have been over before it started. He was basically assigned to protect goku at first.

Whether they did it for comedic effect or not, for some reason SPC became th butt of the joke and pikkon was the punchline, Now i hate to use your own words against you, but pikkon proved otherwise without a doubt that he could take spc and it was never contradicted.

So whether people WANt to believe SPc wasnt fully powered or had tunnel vision, toei and AT made a point with him to do what they did. That right there is enuff to convince me, and then of course we dont even see SPC until GT. Doing the same thing he was before. Causing trouble.

His whirling tornado move and thunderflash would have an easier time disposing of cell, and i mean in all honesty? he did cell so cold and final when you think there should have BEEN a fight.

Goku had to use his brain against pikkon, not something he usually has to do in a fight.

a 100x kaioken goku got his butt handed to him in a good fight. His IT kamehameha was a classic move though. Kinda disappointed it took pikkon out so easy. :T_T:

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