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Meta Cooler x 2 VS Android 17 + 18
Topic Started: Jan 1 2012, 05:53 PM (1,494 Views)
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Who would win? I was thinking long and hard. They both owned super saiyans at the start. I'm kind of heading toward the androids because of their seemingly unlimited ki (GT messes that up of course -.-) so they could spam the meta coolers like vegeta and goku... who were weaker and still able to do it to one. Up to you guys to help me decide.
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I don't think a combined attack from SSjin Goku and SSjin Vegeta would've shattered C18 or C17, so the cyborgs win.
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How does gt mess up the androids?

Not to mention meta cooler himself was a cyborg. But alot weaker than geros bots. 19 and 20 could take meta cooler let alone 17 and 18, they arent even the strongest. super 13, 16, and cell are stronger than them.
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17&18 take this.
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Jan 1 2012, 06:59 PM
How does gt mess up the androids?

Not to mention meta cooler himself was a cyborg. But alot weaker than geros bots. 19 and 20 could take meta cooler let alone 17 and 18, they arent even the strongest. super 13, 16, and cell are stronger than them.
Well when #18 was attacking super 17 to let goku use his dragonfist, she shows signs of fatigue, which she should not be showing.
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Guys are you not missing out meta coolers ability to sort itself out to prevent further damage of the same kind? Just saying, it may be a large factor in the battle. Say when #18 kicked vegeta in the arm and broke, it wouldn't have the near the same effect for meta cooler (since he was stronger than vegeta in the first place). Again just point a couple of things out ^_^
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Guys are you not missing out meta coolers ability to sort itself out to prevent further damage of the same kind? Just saying, it may be a large factor in the battle. Say when #18 kicked vegeta in the arm and broke, it wouldn't have the near the same effect for meta cooler (since he was stronger than vegeta in the first place). Again just point a couple of things out ^_^
I think 17&18 are stronger than Meta, so his ability to 'regenerate' himself with the bonus preventing further damage from a similar attack, for me is irrelevant. C17/18 can just spam the hell out of the meta's with a mixture of ki blasts and constant H2H combat and always mix it up, to result in a similar end to the first Meta Cooler we encounter in M6. 17 tanked Kamiccolo's Hell Zone Grenade w/ his energy shield, something which I can see Meta Cooler getting seriously messed up by. Also, we see that it takes a few seconds for Meta to sort itself out and with the speed of the Cyborgs those are precious seconds that the Coolers would ultimately perish by.
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Jan 1 2012, 06:59 PM
How does gt mess up the androids?

Not to mention meta cooler himself was a cyborg. But alot weaker than geros bots. 19 and 20 could take meta cooler let alone 17 and 18, they arent even the strongest. super 13, 16, and cell are stronger than them.
Well when #18 was attacking super 17 to let goku use his dragonfist, she shows signs of fatigue, which she should not be showing.
in some filler krillin had wished her to be human again. first the bomb, then he asked her to be made human later on.

its filler but toei put it in there, and you cant fight the creators... :rofl:
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Jan 1 2012, 11:10 PM
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Jan 1 2012, 06:59 PM
How does gt mess up the androids?

Not to mention meta cooler himself was a cyborg. But alot weaker than geros bots. 19 and 20 could take meta cooler let alone 17 and 18, they arent even the strongest. super 13, 16, and cell are stronger than them.
Well when #18 was attacking super 17 to let goku use his dragonfist, she shows signs of fatigue, which she should not be showing.
in some filler krillin had wished her to be human again. first the bomb, then he asked her to be made human later on.

its filler but toei put it in there, and you cant fight the creators... :rofl:
Actually was the wished not granted, as she was still part human as such. That would still allow her to have kids. She was still therefor and the same. it was true the bomb was removed in a wish instead. Furthermore if she was human, she would be able to fight goten/trunks in the tournament... as her cyborg abilities were the source of her power. It's like someone wishing, goku couldnt turn Super saiyan, because of the wish he would lose a large portion of his power, if you get my meaning.

And I can fight the creator cause they have been doing stupid stuff in GT all the time, E.G goku junior becoming super saiyan when he is 1/16 saiyan, and akira said that the most you could be was 1/4 anything below that was incapable of becoming a super saiyan...
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true, but the bomb was just a plot hole to begin with, gero used that to control THEM not make threats to others.

She was a cyborg but i dont know just how much considering he could shut them on and off, for all we know? their entire bodies could be as fake as motoko kusnagi's in GITS. But have a brain inside.

Since her and krillin got it on though, its entirely possible he only enhanced certain parts. If that IS the case? then they also had steel hard skin.

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Jan 1 2012, 11:19 PM
true, but the bomb was just a plot hole to begin with, gero used that to control THEM not make threats to others.

She was a cyborg but i dont know just how much considering he could shut them on and off, for all we know? their entire bodies could be as fake as motoko kusnagi's in GITS. But have a brain inside.

Since her and krillin got it on though, its entirely possible he only enhanced certain parts. If that IS the case? then they also had steel hard skin.

what was krillin thinking lmao... and what about the kids genes :P would it not make the kid somewhat a fighter?
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Jan 1 2012, 11:10 PM
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Jan 1 2012, 06:59 PM
How does gt mess up the androids?

Not to mention meta cooler himself was a cyborg. But alot weaker than geros bots. 19 and 20 could take meta cooler let alone 17 and 18, they arent even the strongest. super 13, 16, and cell are stronger than them.
Well when #18 was attacking super 17 to let goku use his dragonfist, she shows signs of fatigue, which she should not be showing.
in some filler krillin had wished her to be human again. first the bomb, then he asked her to be made human later on.

its filler but toei put it in there, and you cant fight the creators... :rofl:
Actually was the wished not granted, as she was still part human as such. That would still allow her to have kids. She was still therefor and the same. it was true the bomb was removed in a wish instead. Furthermore if she was human, she would be able to fight goten/trunks in the tournament... as her cyborg abilities were the source of her power. It's like someone wishing, goku couldnt turn Super saiyan, because of the wish he would lose a large portion of his power, if you get my meaning.

And I can fight the creator cause they have been doing stupid stuff in GT all the time, E.G goku junior becoming super saiyan when he is 1/16 saiyan, and akira said that the most you could be was 1/4 anything below that was incapable of becoming a super saiyan...
Toriyama never said that.
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Jan 1 2012, 06:59 PM
How does gt mess up the androids?

Not to mention meta cooler himself was a cyborg. But alot weaker than geros bots. 19 and 20 could take meta cooler let alone 17 and 18, they arent even the strongest. super 13, 16, and cell are stronger than them.
Well when #18 was attacking super 17 to let goku use his dragonfist, she shows signs of fatigue, which she should not be showing.
in some filler krillin had wished her to be human again. first the bomb, then he asked her to be made human later on.

its filler but toei put it in there, and you cant fight the creators... :rofl:
Actually was the wished not granted, as she was still part human as such. That would still allow her to have kids. She was still therefor and the same. it was true the bomb was removed in a wish instead. Furthermore if she was human, she would be able to fight goten/trunks in the tournament... as her cyborg abilities were the source of her power. It's like someone wishing, goku couldnt turn Super saiyan, because of the wish he would lose a large portion of his power, if you get my meaning.

And I can fight the creator cause they have been doing stupid stuff in GT all the time, E.G goku junior becoming super saiyan when he is 1/16 saiyan, and akira said that the most you could be was 1/4 anything below that was incapable of becoming a super saiyan...
Toriyama never said that.
which part were you taking about?
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Jan 1 2012, 06:59 PM
How does gt mess up the androids?

Not to mention meta cooler himself was a cyborg. But alot weaker than geros bots. 19 and 20 could take meta cooler let alone 17 and 18, they arent even the strongest. super 13, 16, and cell are stronger than them.
Well when #18 was attacking super 17 to let goku use his dragonfist, she shows signs of fatigue, which she should not be showing.
in some filler krillin had wished her to be human again. first the bomb, then he asked her to be made human later on.

its filler but toei put it in there, and you cant fight the creators... :rofl:
Actually was the wished not granted, as she was still part human as such. That would still allow her to have kids. She was still therefor and the same. it was true the bomb was removed in a wish instead. Furthermore if she was human, she would be able to fight goten/trunks in the tournament... as her cyborg abilities were the source of her power. It's like someone wishing, goku couldnt turn Super saiyan, because of the wish he would lose a large portion of his power, if you get my meaning.

And I can fight the creator cause they have been doing stupid stuff in GT all the time, E.G goku junior becoming super saiyan when he is 1/16 saiyan, and akira said that the most you could be was 1/4 anything below that was incapable of becoming a super saiyan...
Toriyama never said that.
which part were you taking about?
'akira said that the most you could be was 1/4 anything below that was incapable of becoming a super saiyan...'

I'm pretty sure KP is talking about that part. When did AT say this? Considering he never made a Saiyajin character below 1/4 Saiyajin, i.e Pan, there would never have been a need for him to state this fact.
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Jan 2 2012, 02:03 AM
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Jan 1 2012, 11:10 PM
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Jan 1 2012, 06:59 PM
How does gt mess up the androids?

Not to mention meta cooler himself was a cyborg. But alot weaker than geros bots. 19 and 20 could take meta cooler let alone 17 and 18, they arent even the strongest. super 13, 16, and cell are stronger than them.
Well when #18 was attacking super 17 to let goku use his dragonfist, she shows signs of fatigue, which she should not be showing.
in some filler krillin had wished her to be human again. first the bomb, then he asked her to be made human later on.

its filler but toei put it in there, and you cant fight the creators... :rofl:
Actually was the wished not granted, as she was still part human as such. That would still allow her to have kids. She was still therefor and the same. it was true the bomb was removed in a wish instead. Furthermore if she was human, she would be able to fight goten/trunks in the tournament... as her cyborg abilities were the source of her power. It's like someone wishing, goku couldnt turn Super saiyan, because of the wish he would lose a large portion of his power, if you get my meaning.

And I can fight the creator cause they have been doing stupid stuff in GT all the time, E.G goku junior becoming super saiyan when he is 1/16 saiyan, and akira said that the most you could be was 1/4 anything below that was incapable of becoming a super saiyan...
Toriyama never said that.
which part were you taking about?
'akira said that the most you could be was 1/4 anything below that was incapable of becoming a super saiyan...'

I'm pretty sure KP is talking about that part. When did AT say this? Considering he never made a Saiyajin character below 1/4 Saiyajin, i.e Pan, there would never have been a need for him to state this fact.
It was in one of his interviews or something, many hardcore fans have also stated this fact and it is very plausible.
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