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Jan 8 2012, 05:57 AM

Valtus3200

Jan 1 2012, 03:20 PM

A friend of mine and I were talking about this a few nights ago, and he brought up an intriguing concept. What if ghosts and spiritual entities were composed of Dark Matter? I mean, there is no actual definition for Dark Matter, the only thing we can tell is that something is there.

I've long believed that varying levels of consciousness drive our universe, and this might explain a lot that cosmology can't seem to explain. Hell, the holographic universe model seems to indicate that our universe is just one massive quantum computer.

I didn't think you could feel dark matter? And doesn't go right through you?

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Wiki: Electromagnetism is the interaction responsible for practically all the phenomena encountered in daily life, with the exception of gravity. Ordinary matter takes its form as a result of intermolecular forces between individual molecules in matter. Electromagnetism attracts electrons to an atomic nucleus to form atoms, which are the building blocks of molecules. This governs the processes involved in chemistry, which arise from interactions between the electrons of neighboring atoms, which are in turn determined by the interaction between electromagnetic force and the momentum of the electrons

Electromagnetism manifests as both electric fields and magnetic fields. Both fields are simply different aspects of electromagnetism, and hence are intrinsically related. Thus, a changing electric field generates a magnetic field; conversely a changing magnetic field generates an electric field. This effect is called electromagnetic induction, and is the basis of operation for electrical generators, induction motors, and transformers. Mathematically speaking, magnetic fields and electric fields are convertible with relative motion as a 2nd-order tensor or bivector.

SirParagon

Jan 5 2012, 08:13 AM

Ghosts are as real as leprechauns and pixies. There's no need to debate whether they exist.

Here's some extremely shaky assumptions you make when asserting ghosts exist:

- Consciousness can exist without physical matter
- There's other dimensions outside what we can perceive
- A mystical energy X which somehow cannot be measured yet

Prove these things, then one might have a case suggesting that ghosts are real, otherwise you're jumping the gun.

SirParagon

Jan 10 2012, 12:35 PM

I never said those things were impossible because indeed there is little solid evidence either way (except neuroscience already leans heavily toward consciousness being a function of the brain, not a separate aspect of our being), but please understand that debating affirmative for whether ghosts exist automatically assumes them to be true, it is an inherent fallacy. The concept of two cannot exist without the foundation 1 + 1. An argument cannot be taken seriously if it fails to reason from first principles.

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Religion cannot be proven with solid factual evidence.

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Unfortunately faith holds little ground in reality. A lack of evidence (for or against) is not a substitute for truth.

SirParagon

Jan 11 2012, 05:17 AM

My opinion demands facts, I do not automatically make assumptions with the shallow justification 'you cannot disprove my opinion therefore it is immune to logic'.

I have also had first hand experience regarding the capacity one's own mind has for self-delusion.

SirParagon

Jan 11 2012, 05:41 AM

Sorry if you feel offended. It's just that I cannot take supernatural discussions seriously, it defies sanity in my eyes (I'm not calling you insane btw :p). I know it can be hard to accept sometimes, but wishful thinking does not equal truth.

ObsessiveFanGirl

Jan 11 2012, 05:08 AM

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Religion cannot be proven with solid factual evidence.

Can it be completely disproven?

-MS-

Feb 14 2012, 03:57 AM

Well the only way to believe in ghost is to be in an occult or in a native american religion. Christianity denies the fact of lost souls roaming the earth and well you know why atheists can't lol So speaking as an Agnostic follower, no i do not.