Chibi Trunks and Goten

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Chibi Trunks and Goten
Tweet Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 09:51 AM (1,051 Views)
SSJ JJ	Dec 24 2011, 09:51 AM Post #1
Posts: 82 Group: Member Member #7,119 Joined: December 24, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z	How is it, it took Kakorot so long to become a Super Sayian, it took Vegeta forever to achieve, Gohan had rage to help him.. Now how did Goten (Age 7) being trained by Chi Chi and Trunks (Age 8) get to Super Sayian? I know Vegeta and Kakorot trained way harder
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*Copy_Ninja*	Dec 24 2011, 10:17 AM Post #2
*Novacane for the pain* Posts: 8,033 Group: Guardian Member #6,499 Joined: July 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter x Hunter (2011) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Monster, One Piece, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hunter X Hunter, Death Note, SnK	Nothings really confirmed, but it's possibly because their father's were Super Saiyans when they were conceived, so they could attain the transformation younger and easier. That's one of the theories anyway.
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Ricky	Dec 24 2011, 01:57 PM Post #3
Posts: 81 Group: Member Member #7,004 Joined: November 21, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Firefox on occasion. Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	^ Agree. Vegeta said that the last Super Saiyan destroyed himself with his own power, so he was never able to reproduce and keep that 'gene' going. (Can't think of a better word.) So to me, it only makes sense that if someone who achieved it reproduced, his offspring would also be able to achieve it, also much easier, because the 'gene' is already in their system. I would imagine it's sorta like, inheritance. Hereditary maybe? :P Edited by Ricky, Dec 24 2011, 01:57 PM.
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~~Cocoman~~	Dec 24 2011, 02:28 PM Post #4
Badabing! Posts: 1,913 Group: Suspended Member #5,983 Joined: April 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z	It's gag character logic.
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seminoles1	Dec 25 2011, 05:32 AM Post #5
Posts: 117 Group: Member Member #6,254 Joined: May 24, 2011 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ	It doesn't make sense and it's one of the things I did not like about DBZ.



~~DarkCore~~	Dec 25 2011, 03:49 PM Post #6
Posts: 451 Group: Suspended Member #6,998 Joined: November 20, 2011 Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Mozilla Favourite Manga DBZ	Luke_93 Dec 24 2011, 10:17 AM Nothings really confirmed, but it's possibly because their father's were Super Saiyans when they were conceived, so they could attain the transformation younger and easier. That's one of the theories anyway. Yea,thats a pretty good theory But still its not cool that they get free power,it spoils them
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J-Smack	Dec 26 2011, 06:38 AM Post #7
Posts: 1,328 Group: Member Member #5,101 Joined: August 5, 2010 Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball	A popular theory (though I still don't like that there are SSJ 7 and 8 year olds) is that the human portions of half-saiyans carry the ability to experience the powerful emotions needed to turn SSJ. Saiyans (not really Goku) aren't the most emotional types compared to humans. So, the human emotions allow the Saiyan SSJ form to come about more easily. Maybe Goten was grounded and got upset or something.
	darkwarrior has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it. Y2J Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****. ObsessiveFanGirl I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. Now, there's an idea.


*Copy_Ninja*	Dec 26 2011, 07:06 AM Post #8
*Novacane for the pain* Posts: 8,033 Group: Guardian Member #6,499 Joined: July 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter x Hunter (2011) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Monster, One Piece, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hunter X Hunter, Death Note, SnK	Was the Goten - ChiChi sparring scene filler? I thought that was how he transformed.
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Doctor Know	Dec 26 2011, 07:18 AM Post #9
Posts: 478 Group: Member Member #5,351 Joined: October 23, 2010	It was filler. In story explanation was never given. But Gohan and Vegeta remarked how surprised they were it happened. Real world explanation is AT wanted Trunks and Goten to be central characters, and being a SSJ is a prerequisite for being important in DBZ at that stage in the manga and anime.



*Copy_Ninja*	Dec 26 2011, 07:27 AM Post #10
*Novacane for the pain* Posts: 8,033 Group: Guardian Member #6,499 Joined: July 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter x Hunter (2011) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Monster, One Piece, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hunter X Hunter, Death Note, SnK	Oh, could have swore I read it in the manga.
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Super Gohan	Dec 26 2011, 09:03 AM Post #11
Posts: 674 Group: Member Member #6,283 Joined: May 29, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	I don't think you'll really find any satisfiable explanation that doesn't break the fourth wall. The fact that it isn't treated as any big deal, with Goten not even remembering how he attained the form when asked, seems to be the intended humor in itself. Poking fun at the whole Super Saiyan legend, which took the others unbearable hardship. The Buu arc had a less serious tone than the direction the story had taken just prior and it appeared Toriyama was writing it closer to its gag manga roots. So Goten and Trunks were likely being established as comedic relief characters, which essentially aren't bound by logic. The closest to some in-universe justification you'd probably get is from just going by what is stated about Saiyan hybrids: Chapter: 204 (DBZ 10), P12.1-2 Vegeta: “At any rate, the battle power of Kakarrot’s son is unusually high, even by the standards of Saiyan children.” Nappa: “Maybe his reading was wrong.” Vegeta: “No, it wasn’t wrong. Raditz really took a large amount of damage from that brat’s attack. It seems that mixing Saiyan and Earthling blood begets a powerful hybrid.” They weren't just ordinary Super Saiyans though, they were strong ones at that. And all without having to work for it.



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Dec 26 2011, 05:01 PM Post #12
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	To quote Piccolami from another thread from a while ago: Quote: It just seems to me as if Goten and Trunks popped out of Chi-chi and Bulma with power levels of 10,000,000 for no reason. Kid Trunks and Kid Goten becoming SSJ so easy is one of my major pet peeves of the series, but I'll just go with the theory that the SSJ DNA was already present in their fathers during their conception, which made it easier for them.



Piccolami	Dec 26 2011, 10:43 PM Post #13
Posts: 41 Group: Member Member #6,686 Joined: September 1, 2011	The DNA/inheritance theory is just looking for a way to explain a confusing situation. Has Vegeta even achieved SSJ when Trunks is conceived? Going from the timeline Trunks would have been conceived roughly 1 year after future Trunks killed Frieza and the first time we see a SSJ Vegeta is vs the androids. There is no logical explanation for it imo, it was just that the story line with fusion/Gotenks required Goten/Trunks to be strong or fusion would have been pointless.



Battle Power	Dec 27 2011, 05:32 AM Post #14
Posts: 663 Group: Member Member #6,803 Joined: September 28, 2011	Yes, I'm also on the opinion that it's simply plot-based, most things on Buu Saga were like that.
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Kblo247	Dec 27 2011, 09:15 AM Post #15
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Piccolami Dec 26 2011, 10:43 PM The DNA/inheritance theory is just looking for a way to explain a confusing situation. Has Vegeta even achieved SSJ when Trunks is conceived? Going from the timeline Trunks would have been conceived roughly 1 year after future Trunks killed Frieza and the first time we see a SSJ Vegeta is vs the androids. There is no logical explanation for it imo, it was just that the story line with fusion/Gotenks required Goten/Trunks to be strong or fusion would have been pointless. Just because he couldn't hold the transformation doesn't mean the form was present in hisndna. Maybe he was so close and actually broke through, but just couldn't hold it like when Gohan or Trunks both first almost have it



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