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SSJ4 Vegeta vs..
Topic Started: Dec 18 2011, 08:32 PM (566 Views)
Jamason
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SSj3 Goten

Nouva Shenron. Say that they were both seriouse about it and both were at maximum power.

Syn Shenron.

Super 17

Naturon Shenron

Ice Shenron
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DarkCore
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All of them at same time ?

if one by one,he pretty much *****s on them all
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Jamason
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SSj3 Goten

One at a time
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xDanny 117
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So you want to play huh?

He loses to Nuova shenron
He loses to Syn Shenron
He loses to Super 17(he'd spam his Ki blasts and 17 would absorb)
He beats Naturon Shenron
He beats Ice Shenron.

I have SSJ4 Vegeta =< SSJ4 Goku
He may be much, much weaker though.
Edited by xDanny 117, Dec 18 2011, 10:29 PM.
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Si Xing Long would beat him eventually I'd think. He's ridiculously fast. Son managed to beat him (sorta) but that was only because he's an awfully good fighter.

Yi Xing Long and Super #17 would ***** Vegeta so hard he'd be gulping for air unless you believe Buruma's device haxed him up.

Qi Xing Long and San Xing Long both get utterly battered. San Xing Long is only problematic because of how dirty he fights, but even Son Goku defeated him despite how kind and trustworthy is.
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ssj4 vegeta couldnt even take nuova and ice at full power, goku was at half strength and hungry and still beat em down.

How on gods green earth do people KEEP trying to act like vegeta can be as strong as goku??? his ssj4 is MUCH weaker than gokus, not to mention goku can actually control his form in and out as he pleases, vegeta needs a machine.

By the end of gt? goku was a mssj4, and vegeta still had NO tail.

Gt showed you what vegeta could do, nothing....without fusion.
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xDanny 117
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So you want to play huh?

Ninjajp247
Dec 18 2011, 09:12 PM

How on gods green earth do people KEEP trying to act like vegeta can be as strong as goku??? his ssj4 is MUCH weaker than gokus, not to mention goku can actually control his form in and out as he pleases, vegeta needs a machine.

I'm basing my assumptions on the fact that there is no mention from Goku about lowering his power level to fuse with vegeta. So I assume that they're near equals.
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Jamason
Dec 18 2011, 08:32 PM
Nouva Shenron.
I don't remember much of GT but I'm 100% sure Nouva Shenron beat Vegeta without even trying
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Jamason
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SSj3 Goten

Nouva also wasnt even trying to hurt Vegeta just get him out of the way. Plus Nouva got a power boost from Omega.
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The Legendary Nightmare

Nouva Shenron wins
Syn Shenron wins
Super 17 realizes he shouldn't exist and fades
Naturon Shenron loses
Ice Shenron wins
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Ninjajp247
Dec 18 2011, 09:12 PM
ssj4 vegeta couldnt even take nuova and ice at full power, goku was at half strength and hungry and still beat em down.

How on gods green earth do people KEEP trying to act like vegeta can be as strong as goku??? his ssj4 is MUCH weaker than gokus, not to mention goku can actually control his form in and out as he pleases, vegeta needs a machine.

By the end of gt? goku was a mssj4, and vegeta still had NO tail.

Gt showed you what vegeta could do, nothing....without fusion.
SSJ4 Vegeta is equal to SSJ4 Goku,sry

And at that point in the show,Goku alone couldn't do anything either,and tell me how is it better to have your tail pulled out of your ***** than having a machine to turn ssj4 ? And considering how we saw his tail in Z during his shower,I always wonder what *****ing imbecile wrote GT and forgot to draw Vegeta's tail back like Goku's

And yea,Vegeta IS as strong as Goku in base forms.Only thing Goku had over him was transformation multipliers given to him because he is main character

First it was FPSSJ multiplier in Cell saga

Then it was SSJ3 in Buu saga

And then during GT it was SSJ4

Their bases were always the same,and as Vegeta is as skilled as Goku(proven in their Majin Vegeta vs SSJ2 Goku fight),he will not have problems vs anybody Goku fought

You really have to tone down that fanboyism and hate
Edited by DarkCore, Dec 19 2011, 04:28 PM.
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DarkCore
Dec 19 2011, 04:27 PM
And at that point in the show,Goku alone couldn't do anything either,and tell me how is it better to have your tail pulled out of your ***** than having a machine to turn ssj4 ? And considering how we saw his tail in Z during his shower,I always wonder what *****ing imbecile wrote GT and forgot to draw Vegeta's tail back like Goku's
Vegeta's tail never came back after he lost it in the Saiyan saga. Also Vegeta is as strong as Goku in Buu saga but that doesn't necessarily mean it has to carry over to GT.
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SSJ Chibi Goku did as good or better than SSJ2 Vegeta against Super 17.
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Dec 19 2011, 04:36 PM
SSJ Chibi Goku did as good or better than SSJ2 Vegeta against Super 17.
Super #17 stated he was toying with Goku, and that Goku hit(s) did nothing. He basically allowed Goku to hit him across the planet. So I don't think their fights proved who was stronger than who.

As for the debate at hand, Vegeta beats all of them except Nuova and Syn Shenron.

After Nuova beats him down and Trunks comes to his rescue (which you'll soon read was completely unnecessary), Vegeta states:

"That bastard! What does he think he's doing? He's toying with us! That technique he used on me was nothing but show, and didn't hurt in the least! He pulled his punch! He's not at all serious!"

So Nuova was toying with him, but he also had the upper hand against Goku when they fought as well. Considering Goku didn't need to lower his Ki to fuse with Vegeta, I'd say that proves they're equal in SSjin 4 at least.

Goku didn't do anything of worth against Nuova. Even when he was teleporting all around, trying to confuse Nuova while he prepared his 10x Kamehameha, Nuova still blasted him in the middle of it. The only reason Goku won the fight was because Goku tricked him with a mirror, not from brute strength.
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