Piccolo (End of Z) vs. Various Opponents

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Piccolo (End of Z) vs. Various Opponents
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~~CatouttaHell~~	Dec 18 2011, 05:52 PM Post #1
God of Destruction Posts: 483 Group: Suspended Member #5,477 Joined: December 6, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	How far would Piccolo at the end of Z get against the following opponents? He fights each opponent one-on-one and gets healed after every fight. 1. Kaioshin 2. Pui-Pui 3. Base Gohan (Boo arc) 4. Base Vegeta (Boo arc) 5. Base Goku (Boo arc) 6. Yakon Edited by CatouttaHell, Dec 18 2011, 05:59 PM.



sylentknyte	Dec 18 2011, 06:39 PM Post #2
Posts: 790 Group: Member Member #5,932 Joined: March 30, 2011	1. >Kaioshin 2. >Pui-Pui 3. >Base Gohan (Boo arc) 4. >Base Vegeta (Boo arc) 5. >Base Goku (Boo arc) 6. >Yakon He takes all of them with little difficulty. I think the only really debatable one it Kaioshin. I'm of the group of people that think he forfited out of respect, but who knows. Nobody can answer that for sure. But ask yourself this, did Piccolo step down against Raditz, Nappa, Frieza, 17, Broly, Bojack, or anyone else that would either outclass him, or be a tough opponent? Never.



~~CatouttaHell~~	Dec 18 2011, 06:42 PM Post #3
God of Destruction Posts: 483 Group: Suspended Member #5,477 Joined: December 6, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	He couldn't step down against them because he'd be killed anyway. There's a difference between a life and death battle and a mere tournament match. I used to also believe he forfeited out of respect, but if that was the case there would be a statement somewhere contradicting his statement of being worlds below Kaioshin...



sylentknyte	Dec 18 2011, 06:49 PM Post #4
Posts: 790 Group: Member Member #5,932 Joined: March 30, 2011	^ Worlds below could also mean Supreme Kai > Grand Kai > King Kai > King Yama > Kami, or at least how it used to be. Like I said, its one of those things that will never have a clear answer. Especially since we never get to see Kaishin fight much at all, or at least against someone we could use as a footnote. You're totally right though, Piccolo wasnt in a life or death situation. I will definitely take that into consideration. But again, when has Piccolo EVER stepped down from anything? Its just really out of character. As a three dimensional character, the "respect" theory makes complete sense. The Kami in him knows who that guy is, and knows that the supreme god of the universe is standing before him. Edited by sylentknyte, Dec 18 2011, 06:49 PM.



+ Pyrus	Dec 18 2011, 07:17 PM Post #5
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	sylentknyte Dec 18 2011, 06:39 PM 1. >Kaioshin 2. >Pui-Pui 3. >Base Gohan (Boo arc) 4. >Base Vegeta (Boo arc) 5. >Base Goku (Boo arc) 6. >Yakon He takes all of them with little difficulty. I think the only really debatable one it Kaioshin. I'm of the group of people that think he forfited out of respect, but who knows. Nobody can answer that for sure. But ask yourself this, did Piccolo step down against Raditz, Nappa, Frieza, 17, Broly, Bojack, or anyone else that would either outclass him, or be a tough opponent? Never. Raditz: He only fought because he had Goku at his side. He refused to fight on his own. No point. Nappa: By the time he knew he was outclassed, it was too late to run. No point. Freeza: He had a shot and by the time he was outclassed, it was too late to run. No point. #17: He was equal, if not a bit stronger, than #17. I don't understand how this even came across as a viable point. Broly: Non-canon. No point. Bojack: Non-canon. No point. Piccolo doesn't fight battles he knows he can't win if there's another way out.
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+ Clearin	Dec 18 2011, 07:19 PM Post #6
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Kamikaze Pyro Dec 18 2011, 07:17 PM Piccolo doesn't fight battles he knows he can't win if there's another way out. Android 17 and 18 (First time)



+ Pyrus	Dec 18 2011, 07:26 PM Post #7
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Teen GohanZ Dec 18 2011, 07:19 PM Kamikaze Pyro Dec 18 2011, 07:17 PM Piccolo doesn't fight battles he knows he can't win if there's another way out. Android 17 and 18 (First time) Get out, fool. It was an opening since C18 and C17 were preoccupied by the two, so perhaps he was thinking a surprise attack would give them some kind of advantage.
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MysticGotenks	Dec 18 2011, 07:34 PM Post #8
Posts: 761 Group: Member Member #7,087 Joined: December 17, 2011	Yes Piccolo never steps down from fights, but usually he interrupts enemies attacking other Z-fighters and he comes to help, if he didn't his friends would be killed/he would be killed/ Earth would be destroyed and so on. This was simply a tournament when encountering Kaioshin, and the 'Kami' in him, probably swayed his decision as Kami knows Kaioshin is leagues above in terms of God's. But like COH said, for people to solidify this as fact there would need to have been some statement from Piccolo saying that it was out of respect, rather than because he knows that Kaioshin is leagues ahead in terms of strength. Since there isn't one, its open to interpretation. IMO it seems to me that if it Piccolo didn't know Kaioshin, he would have fought, perhaps Kami's influence in this case over took Piccolo's and the very presence of Kaioshin was an honor that he didn't want to fight him. Life and death situation, Piccolo beats the various opponents, including Kaioshin. I don't see all battles being very easy, only Pui Pui is fodder, the rest present some challenge.
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sylentknyte	Dec 18 2011, 07:35 PM Post #9
Posts: 790 Group: Member Member #5,932 Joined: March 30, 2011	I'm not saying Piccolo isn't a smart fighter, just saying he never backs down from a challenge. #17 is a viable point, probably the most viable point in fact. He went in, knowing there were three of them, not knowing if he could defeat them. Takes balls. 17 wasnt a cake-walk for him in any sense, and its highly possible he would have been defeated. Either way, you're a fan of the Attitude Era, so I can at least say I respect you a bit :P.



SIAD	May 24 2013, 01:44 AM Post #10
Posts: 708 Group: Member Member #9,530 Joined: May 24, 2013	Piccolo EoGT I have a little more powerful than FP Perfect Cell.



TheACE	May 24 2013, 01:53 AM Post #11
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	SIAD May 24 2013, 01:44 AM Piccolo EoGT I have a little more powerful than FP Perfect Cell. Really. I recall in GT, Trunks quantified a power chain similar to this: Goku > Vegeta >/= Gohan >/= Piccolo > Trunks > Goten > Pan. Assuming this is with all of them at full power, keep in mind that the Goku as a base is about as tough as some unspecified version of Majin Buu. Trunks is pretty damned close Super Saiyan Goku's power when Trunks has transformed as well. And if Super Namek Piccolo is superior to Super Saiyan Trunks, then at a very bare minimum that puts him in the Buu Category, never the less a pushover like Cell or Frieza (Unless we're referring to the much stronger GT Cell or GT Frieza, in which case it's a slightly different situation.) Whoops I didn't answer the question. Piccolo has the gauntlet. All together outclasses everyone on the list. Edited by TheACE, May 24 2013, 02:05 AM.
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SIAD	May 24 2013, 03:03 AM Post #12
Posts: 708 Group: Member Member #9,530 Joined: May 24, 2013	TheACE May 24 2013, 01:53 AM SIAD May 24 2013, 01:44 AM Piccolo EoGT I have a little more powerful than FP Perfect Cell. Really. I recall in GT, Trunks quantified a power chain similar to this: Goku > Vegeta >/= Gohan >/= Piccolo > Trunks > Goten > Pan. Assuming this is with all of them at full power, keep in mind that the Goku as a base is about as tough as some unspecified version of Majin Buu. Trunks is pretty damned close Super Saiyan Goku's power when Trunks has transformed as well. And if Super Namek Piccolo is superior to Super Saiyan Trunks, then at a very bare minimum that puts him in the Buu Category, never the less a pushover like Cell or Frieza (Unless we're referring to the much stronger GT Cell or GT Frieza, in which case it's a slightly different situation.) Whoops I didn't answer the question. Piccolo has the gauntlet. All together outclasses everyone on the list. I was a fool, I meant EOZ Piccolo. DBGT Piccolo is really powerful, first as you say Trunks said to be less than Piccolo, Piccolo also see surviving a Baby Kamehameha SSJ Gohan when Gohan base is> Mystic Gohan, since according to GT Perfect Files "Gohan did not neglect their education ". Piccolo is the Saga Super 17 is probably more powerful than Cell and Frieza DBGT DBGT, which in turn are more powerful than Rildo (probably more powerful than Metal Rildo). Finally EoGT Piccolo should trump Artificial even 17, since according to GT Perfect files "Artificial 17 17 revived and was sent to hell." This shows us that Artificial 17 is the bad guy of hell more powerful and Piccolo DBGT as guardian was bound to be more powerful than. The Evil Dragons lived in a different dimension, so we did not go to hell and Baby just disappeared from all existence of reality. I have this string: Piccolo (EoGT / Evil Dragon Saga)> Artificial 17> Piccolo (Saga Super 17)> Cell DBGT> Freezer DBGT> = Metal Rildo> Sigma Rildo> General Rildo> Buuhan. What if I find that you are wrong with your chains to the beginning of DBGT Trunks. Probably the second most powerful Gohan was because he was a giant compared to the others to have the mystical state, which over the years became normal, and then have SSJ / 2. I have this: What if I find that you are wrong with your chains to the beginning of DBGT Trunks. Probably the second most powerful Gohan was because he was a giant compared to the others to have the mystical state, which over the years became normal, and then have SSJ / 2. I have this: SSJ3 Goku (DBGT Principle)> Gohan (Principle of DBGT)> SSJ2 Goku (DBGT Principle)> SSJ2 Vegeta (DBGT Principle)> SSJ Goku (DBGT Principle)> SSJ Vegeta (DBGT Principle)> Base Goku (Principle of DBGT) = Oob (Principle DBGT)> Piccolo (Early DBGT)> SSJ Trunks (Top of DBGT). Regarding the question Piccolo eoz Glove crushes.



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