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The Collapse of the Greatest Nation in a Century
Topic Started: Dec 17 2011, 02:54 AM (2,190 Views)
Cal Dec 19 2011, 03:05 AM Post #46
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I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade!

 Money is the ONLY thing that does matter. Before EVERY foreign money transaction the money is converted into USD because at a time it was the strongest currency and it was easier to see how much things are worth and for multiple countries to trade etc. Now that it's become weak it doesn't have to be the world's reserve currency anymore.

When you said "host" I thought you meant we're head of every meeting (which is why I said I wasn't sure what you meant in my earlier post), not that it's literally here, which doesn't really matter anyway. If we do end up backing out of it it still wont matter if they meet in NYC or change locations. Foreign leaders don't live under US rule when they're here anyway.
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Mihawk Dec 19 2011, 03:14 AM Post #47
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Dec 18 2011, 08:45 PM
Simple: I want someone who has actually experienced war to be in charge of sending our soldiers to war.
I hope you know Ron Paul was drafted into the military (got a draft letter, but joined the air force). That's where he gets his viewpoints on foreign policy from.


Not only that he has the most donations from the military than all the other candidates combined, including Obama. Here you go:



You also said you wanted someone who understands the economy. He predicted the financial collapse. I don't get how you can possibly get a better understanding of the economy than that.
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Cal Dec 19 2011, 03:34 AM Post #48
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 Great video man. I hadn't seen that one yet. The thing that upsets me most about this election is a lot of people ride Ron Paul off as crazy (which as I've said in the past I do disagree with me a decent amount), but it takes one person to say what someone wants to hear and it takes someone like Ron Paul to say how things truly are and how we can progress. Also note that every time I said he was crazy I mentioned that he was the only honest candidate.
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Mihawk Dec 19 2011, 03:40 AM Post #49
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 Yeah that's totally cool. It's a shame that everyone is always kept in dark about the oil fueled foreign policy.
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Doggo Champion 2k17 Dec 19 2011, 03:43 AM Post #50
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Did he actually see combat? Ehhh...

I'm still not sold, and I probably never will be. I've seen Ron Paul in plenty of interviews and debates. I know just as much as you guys, so it will take a heck of a lot to convince me. :p
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Mihawk Dec 19 2011, 03:47 AM Post #51
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 Well if you don't believe in the foreign policy then watch that video above and you will most likely will. Tons of veterans that have seen combat agree with him. I don't see how you can't agree with the economic policy if he predicted the crisis years before it happened.

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Ani-Nation Dec 19 2011, 04:11 AM Post #52
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 Thanks for sharing that video illstand1.
Didn't know that about troops supporting Ron Paul.
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Mc Esse Jan 2 2012, 05:35 AM Post #53
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 Personally something that I have noticed is that in the past 10-15 years, the American dollar went from trading at $0.67 Canadian to being at par. The economy of Canada has fluctuated over the past 5 years, therefore let's not give credit to a rising Canadian economy, but rather a sinking American.
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+ Pelador Jan 2 2012, 05:47 AM Post #54
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 Is there a single government you can attribute most of these problems too? Like Reagon, Bush, Clinton or Bush? Or is it more a fault of the private sector like the banks and real estate companies. Even though both government and private companies are responsible of course. One could probably take more of the blame than the other.


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Optimus Banana Jan 2 2012, 07:49 AM Post #55
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Dec 18 2011, 08:45 PM
Simple: I want someone who has actually experienced war to be in charge of sending our soldiers to war.
But he doesn't want us going to war, unless necessary. He doesn't want us trying to police the world, which is one of the reasons we're in so much debt. I believe we have military outposts in over 130 countries and and we always try to pick sides and rub our nose in every else's business.
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Optimus Banana Jan 2 2012, 07:52 AM Post #56
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Is there a single government you can attribute most of these problems too? Like Reagon, Bush, Clinton or Bush? Or is it more a fault of the private sector like the banks and real estate companies. Even though both government and private companies are responsible of course. One could probably take more of the blame than the other.
Probably the private sector because the the federal bureau that's prints money is a private sector IIRC. I believe they bailed out Greece a few years back but I could be thinking of something else. It's 3am and I can barely keep my open lol.
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Fulgore Jan 2 2012, 09:09 AM Post #57
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 Obama signed the NDAA into law. At the president's SOLE DISCRETION every american lose all of their rights. Indefinitely.

Obama Administration is responsible for taking away the Bill of Rights.
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Paikuan extreme Jan 2 2012, 05:44 PM Post #58
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Is there a single government you can attribute most of these problems too? Like Reagon, Bush, Clinton or Bush? Or is it more a fault of the private sector like the banks and real estate companies. Even though both government and private companies are responsible of course. One could probably take more of the blame than the other.
That and the need to please them as they also ship their money overseas, inflation could also be possible by the simple fact that american money is used all around the world.

corporations are notorious for hiding their money everwhere else but here, in effect making THEIR money more valuable than ours even though its the same.

if corps were held to just putting their money into AMERICAN owned banks around the world that could help a little.

But pels right, this has been going on for decades, we could go back to johnson on this one. The 80's boom for trading got the game kicked off right, but hiding money and dodging taxes is also a part of the game to stay rich, why do u think actors are on tv all the time promoting some charity of some sort? tax write offs help alot, but the government doesnt pay for them anymore, we do.
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Paikuan extreme Jan 2 2012, 05:47 PM Post #59
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 sorry for a double post but this has to be checked,

NO president has the power to do such a thing, if anything congress holds them to it.
The bill of rights were put off to the side decades ago when they started amending the bill of rights, especially the 1st, 2nd, 13th 14th and 15th amendments.
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Fulgore Jan 2 2012, 05:52 PM Post #60
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 Uhh.. You clearly are NOT up to date with what's going on. Read what the NDAA is capable of. Ignorance is bliss.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/02/ndaa-historic-assault-american-liberty?newsfeed=true

American citizens can be detained indefinitely without due process, making America a war zone. Ron Paul said it right in regards to this bill.

The Bill of Rights has no exceptions for really bad people or terrorists or even non-citizens. It is a key check on government power against any person. That is not a weakness in our legal system; it is the very strength of our legal system. The NDAA attempts to justify abridging the Bill of Rights on the theory that rights are suspended in a time of war, and the entire United States is a battlefield in the war on terror. This is a very dangerous development, indeed. Beware.

Do some research you guys talk as if you care, but I'm not seeing it
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