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The Collapse of the Greatest Nation in a Century
Tweet Topic Started: Dec 17 2011, 02:54 AM (2,191 Views)
~~Emma~~	Dec 18 2011, 06:12 PM Post #31
Posts: 58 Group: Suspended Member #6,912 Joined: October 26, 2011 Favourite Anime DBZ is the best and only Anime What Browser do you use? Any Favourite Manga Same as above!	yeah ron paul is getting more popular than ever. you guys at first called me crazy for liking him, well everyone except illstand. He was the only one that like him from the start! We need to get him more popular. he will have a huge chance of winning. Ron Paul can't be touch. alto did you guy hear herman cain quit? It finally shows that he was lying. Obama could have easily done anything he wanted to during the first 2 years and nothing was done. he has no respect for this country. also pelador you still haven't learned a thing. you are the only one that hasn't. can't you tell me why?



Ani-Nation	Dec 18 2011, 06:16 PM Post #32
Posts: 2,751 Group: Members Member #6,334 Joined: June 9, 2011	Quote: And if someone doesn't like one of his policies post and I'll try to sway you etc. How about Quote: eliminating five cabinet departments (Energy, HUD, Commerce, Interior, and Education),



Mihawk	Dec 18 2011, 06:19 PM Post #33
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Ani-Nation Dec 18 2011, 06:16 PM Quote: And if someone doesn't like one of his policies post and I'll try to sway you etc. How about Quote: eliminating five cabinet departments (Energy, HUD, Commerce, Interior, and Education), I'm sure tons of people like those but you can't always afford things you like when you're broke.



Cal	Dec 18 2011, 06:41 PM Post #34
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Ani-Nation Dec 18 2011, 06:16 PM Quote: And if someone doesn't like one of his policies post and I'll try to sway you etc. How about Quote: eliminating five cabinet departments (Energy, HUD, Commerce, Interior, and Education), It's not that simple. Alright before anyone posts fandom etc with no reasons I'll answer this.... I'll single out the biggest one here which is Education. Why eliminate the departments? Well let's see, for those of us who understand the US Constitution understands that changes in policies and the handling of money through the departments is supposed to be made within the individual state's laws, not through a fundamentally screwed federal system. Ever heard of No Child Left Behind? It's goal was to help struggling students, and it somewhat helped, however the negative impact it had was push us even further in debt (and this was at the start of it all)... Quote: The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 dramatically increased federal spending on and authority over public education in America. According to the Department of Education, the Bush Administration's budget request of $24.4 billion for No Child Left Behind in 2008 would be a 41 percent increase over 2001 spending.[6] This budget request also includes a 59 percent increase in Title I grants to local educational agencies.[7] But with these funding increases has come an increased administrative burden on state and local authorities. No Child Left Behind created new rules and regulations for schools and significantly increased compliance costs for state and local governments. According to the Office of Management and Budget, No Child Left Behind increased state and local governments' annual paperwork burden by 6,680,334 hours, at an estimated cost of $141 million dollars.[8] A number of states have published reports estimating the cost of complying with No Child Left Behind.[9] For example, the state of Connecticut found that the state government would spend more than $17 million in 2007 to comply with NCLB. [10] Virginia estimated that state implementation costs totaled approximately 20 million per year.[11] Reduce the Burden by Restoring State Policymaking Authority One way to reduce these administrative costs would be to allow states to opt out of the NCLB program. States would have the opportunity to choose between the status quo and an alternative agreement with the federal government. Under this agreement, elected state officials would have broad authority to consolidate existing federal programs and refocus funding on state initiatives to improve academic achievement. We're using all this money (that we don't have) to abide by federal guidelines when state's are supposed to oversee their own schools and decide on spending. Had to break it to the feds, but we don't need a department of education on the federal level, especially when they just add to the problem chocking America by it's throat.



~~Emma~~	Dec 18 2011, 06:56 PM Post #35
Posts: 58 Group: Suspended Member #6,912 Joined: October 26, 2011 Favourite Anime DBZ is the best and only Anime What Browser do you use? Any Favourite Manga Same as above!	Ron Paul will get some things done. 1: He will leave abortion up to the states. 2: end the drug war. 3: get us out of the wars. 4: cut the debt. 5: leave gay marriage up to the states. 6: think about the gold standard. 7: make the health care system alot better. 8: make the social security system better. i think he would do a great job. also cal i am a little shock your voting for him. your the one that called him an idiot. glad you came to see the right side mon.



Cal	Dec 18 2011, 06:59 PM Post #36
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Emma Dec 18 2011, 06:56 PM i think he would do a great job. also cal i am a little shock your voting for him. your the one that called him an idiot. glad you came to see the right side mon. Your reasons are naive as they're so vague. I'm voting for him not because he is great, but because he can do the least amount of damage to an already crumbled country. He wont "save" the country, I just hope he can conserve it. As for him being an idiot, on a lot of issues I dislike him and I think his views are naive, but if you like every policy a person has then you're either on his staff or you're a naive person who is swayed easily.



~~Emma~~	Dec 18 2011, 07:03 PM Post #37
Posts: 58 Group: Suspended Member #6,912 Joined: October 26, 2011 Favourite Anime DBZ is the best and only Anime What Browser do you use? Any Favourite Manga Same as above!	Did you just called me naive. Well i am not happy with you. you trying to sound smart and know thing. you don't know nothing about the man. just because you use big words like naive doesn't make you anti naive. i guess we better do this stuff then!



Cal	Dec 18 2011, 07:09 PM Post #38
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Emma Dec 18 2011, 07:03 PM Did you just called me naive? Well I am not happy with you. You're trying to sound smart and act like you know things. You don't know anything about the man. Just because you use big words like naive doesn't mean you're not naive. I guess we better do this stuff then! Now tell me honestly, are you a troll or should I assume you're just a kid who's parents told you to like Ron Paul? Edited by Cal, Dec 18 2011, 07:11 PM.



~~Emma~~	Dec 18 2011, 07:13 PM Post #39
Posts: 58 Group: Suspended Member #6,912 Joined: October 26, 2011 Favourite Anime DBZ is the best and only Anime What Browser do you use? Any Favourite Manga Same as above!	well cal we are going to off topic. let's just talk about what views do you find wrong of him. what do you disagree with? is it the gold standard or the health care probably with his old magager in 2008, or the fact he so called disproves of the civil rights acts, or voted against gay adoption. because all of those things are either false(civil rights acts gay adoption) or really do work(gold stadard health care) so please give me a reason! also i disagree with him on abortion and his religious views so yeah. just tell me what is it! what is it? Edited by Emma, Dec 18 2011, 07:14 PM.



DanielSan	Dec 18 2011, 07:22 PM Post #40
Posts: 1,536 Group: Donator Member #5,730 Joined: February 14, 2011	Emma Dec 18 2011, 07:13 PM well cal we are going to off topic. let's just talk about what views do you find wrong of him. what do you disagree with? is it the gold standard or the health care probably with his old magager in 2008, or the fact he so called disproves of the civil rights acts, or voted against gay adoption. because all of those things are either false(civil rights acts gay adoption) or really do work(gold stadard health care) so please give me a reason! also i disagree with him on abortion and his religious views so yeah. just tell me what is it! what is it? Well Emma you haven't really told us about Ron Paul yet. You just he is this and that and will save america. Can you explain more about Ron Paul please? Also what about his health care views exactly?



~~Emma~~	Dec 18 2011, 07:26 PM Post #41
Posts: 58 Group: Suspended Member #6,912 Joined: October 26, 2011 Favourite Anime DBZ is the best and only Anime What Browser do you use? Any Favourite Manga Same as above!	DanielSan Dec 18 2011, 07:22 PM Emma Dec 18 2011, 07:13 PM well cal we are going to off topic. let's just talk about what views do you find wrong of him. what do you disagree with? is it the gold standard or the health care probably with his old magager in 2008, or the fact he so called disproves of the civil rights acts, or voted against gay adoption. because all of those things are either false(civil rights acts gay adoption) or really do work(gold stadard health care) so please give me a reason! also i disagree with him on abortion and his religious views so yeah. just tell me what is it! what is it? Well Emma you haven't really told us about Ron Paul yet. You just he is this and that and will save america. Can you explain more about Ron Paul please? Also what about his health care views exactly? Why do you keep busting my butt! you just keep busting my butt here while i am trying to talk about him. OK ron paul isn't perfect and he isn't the best. I have said that already. you don't have to keep busting my butt. just stop busting my butt. Ron Paul cares for the people and universal health care would destroy america as it is. we don't need it. we have the best system in the world. if you would just listen to me and stop busting my butt you would see that. ok stop busting my butt. Edited by Emma, Dec 18 2011, 07:27 PM.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Dec 18 2011, 08:04 PM Post #42
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I'm not voting for Ron Paul because I still think he's an idiot, and that's really all I have to say about that. I plan on supporting Romney. I agree with a lot of his policies (not all of them, of course), and I don't really believe that Ron Paul will do the least amount of damage to our country. He knows next to nothing about foreign policy other than basic history. I don't really support any of the candidates 100%. I'm getting to the point where I just don't trust politicians... Until I see a candidate who actually knows about our country (has served in the military, knows what's going on with the economy, etc.) then I might change my mind, but until then, I'm just praying we can hold it together with what we're given.



+ Pelador	Dec 18 2011, 08:24 PM Post #43
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Why would you want him to have served in the military? I don't see why that be a reason to vote for someone.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Dec 18 2011, 08:45 PM Post #44
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Simple: I want someone who has actually experienced war to be in charge of sending our soldiers to war.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Dec 18 2011, 08:54 PM Post #45
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	Cal Dec 18 2011, 02:20 PM Ninjajp247 Dec 18 2011, 02:42 AM Cal Dec 17 2011, 08:56 PM Pelador Dec 17 2011, 03:55 PM You realise that compared to here the price of petroleum in America is very cheap? I'm not sure if I read the numbers right but it looks like the average is about £13 a litre here. Compare that to your measily $3.19 lol. Doesn't everyone hate the current congress over there? I heard they aren't popular. The only reason for this is because the world's reserve currency is in USD. When that changes oil prices will skyrocket unbelievably. The worlds reserve surrency will continue to be the usd as long as we host the united nations and hold up our end of the nato treaty. Aint gonna happen before then. The cold part is? america closing its borders and generating new revenue should get us back up. The last depression was brought out BY a war effort, THIS depression was caused BY war. Funny huh? It's not as simple, as "wont happen" trust me I live in America and I wish it was. The reserve currency is always and has always been the currency which is defines as the strongest, the weaker one gets the higher chance it will change. It's not there forever, Great Britan held it about 60-70 years ago before we became a creditor. As for "hosting" the UN not sure what you mean, not only that but a lot of new Presidential candidates like Ron Paul want to back out of the UN. -------------- Obama isn't a bad president, but he promised way too much to begin with. His popularity is slowly going down now, should be interesting year. ummm, great britain was laos the worlds GREATEST land owning superpower before the blitzkrieg as well, so? us hosting the united nations is just that, we are a country that has been INVESTED into by the UN committee. Its the reason why all of the un constituents and members of their countries can come here without REAL issues. If america wasnt a melting pot it would NEVER have achieved the power it did. The world is invested in this country cal, thats the reason for the USD being the reserve currency of the world. Honestly? money itself doesnt even matter, but this is all part of the cold war plan to form a united government worldwide. With everyone under the same name? none of this will matter, and thats not what people want. We have gold and other precious mineral all around the world being controlled right now, diamonds are worthless, they exist everywhere. Gold can be made and or found. why is it we OWE other countried money for providing our services? thats very strange indeed. The way the world commerce works is barter and trade. When WHAT u are trading goes down in value? you HAVE to give more than usual. Never asked yourself HOW it is we can keep printing money we supposedly DONT have? its anywhere and everywhere, they just dont want to use it, they would rather barter and trade other things. WEve got plenty of precious baubles and trinkets HERE, more oil than we need, and yet we are broke? see how that doesnt make sense? In the end its just comes down to greed. The printed money was always fake, as long as everyone did their part nothing would happen, alot of people no longer wish to cooperate, mainly because america has been messing up too much. We were declared world police and given all the resources available, we squandered it. Now that the world no longer trusts america its support to us has gone with it. For someone up on politics im not sure how you missed the simple concept of the united nations very reason for even being in america. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Dec 18 2011, 09:02 PM.



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