Theoretical maximum survivable kaioken level?

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Theoretical maximum survivable kaioken level?; what is the highest level of kaioken goku's body can handle?
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~~brolyeuphyfusion~~	Dec 16 2011, 12:37 PM Post #1
The Legendary Nightmare Posts: 1,001 Group: Suspended Member #6,990 Joined: November 17, 2011	How high do you think is the highest level of kaioken Goku's body can handle? Personally, I think it's somewhere between 100x-150x
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Illustrious	Dec 16 2011, 01:04 PM Post #2
Posts: 426 Group: Member Member #5,087 Joined: August 1, 2010	Not even that, he was struggling with 20x Kaioken against Frieza.



lunar2	Dec 16 2011, 03:27 PM Post #3
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	the highest goku can control is 10x. the 20x was a desperation move. iirc, someone called the 10x kaioken the maximum, so that may be as high as it can safely be taken.
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Illustrious	Dec 16 2011, 03:58 PM Post #4
Posts: 426 Group: Member Member #5,087 Joined: August 1, 2010	lunar2 Dec 16 2011, 03:27 PM the highest goku can control is 10x. the 20x was a desperation move. iirc, someone called the 10x kaioken the maximum, so that may be as high as it can safely be taken. King Kai didn't want Goku to even use Kaioken x10. He basically told Goku to only use 2x his base power; as it was the only way he could safely use the technique.



+ supersaqer	Dec 16 2011, 07:06 PM Post #5
Transcendent Posts: 5,117 Group: Elite Member Member #5,137 Joined: August 13, 2010 Gender Not Specified	At EOZ? I think that he can handle Kaio-Ken x1000 to x3500.
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+ Steve	Dec 16 2011, 07:45 PM Post #6
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lunar2	Dec 16 2011, 08:17 PM Post #7
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	Illustrious Dec 16 2011, 03:58 PM lunar2 Dec 16 2011, 03:27 PM the highest goku can control is 10x. the 20x was a desperation move. iirc, someone called the 10x kaioken the maximum, so that may be as high as it can safely be taken. King Kai didn't want Goku to even use Kaioken x10. He basically told Goku to only use 2x his base power; as it was the only way he could safely use the technique. that was at the saiyan saga. goku didn't have the skill to take it higher safely, and king kai knew that. when goku arrived on namek, though, he stated that he could handle the kkx10, showing how much he had trained the skill in a week.
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~~Victorious~~	Dec 16 2011, 08:29 PM Post #8
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	x100 The Super Kaioken should be 2x Goku's Super Saiyan power, so x100 his base. Super Kaioken = Kaioken x 100 IMO.
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lunar2	Dec 16 2011, 08:50 PM Post #9
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	super kaioken is filler. it doesn't exist.
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~~Victorious~~	Dec 16 2011, 09:02 PM Post #10
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	lunar2 Dec 16 2011, 08:50 PM super kaioken is filler. it doesn't exist. Yeah well I was talking about filler. I don't think there was anything wrong with it.
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Optimus Banana	Dec 16 2011, 09:16 PM Post #11
Posts: 837 Group: Member Member #5,898 Joined: March 25, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Well during the fight with Cell he had great control of his ki maintaining a ball of energy then I.Ting over to Cell. He could probably maintain atleast a x50. The times 4 did a lot of damage saiyan saga making his muscles stay big. In the Frieza fight x20 his muscles didn't really bulge and stay.
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Battle Power	Dec 16 2011, 11:35 PM Post #12
Posts: 663 Group: Member Member #6,803 Joined: September 28, 2011	Seeing as how much Goku managed to improve it untill he achieved Super Saiyan, who knows what's the maximum Kaio-Ken possible. But even if it were to be more powerfull, Super Saiyan would definitely still be the safest transformation.
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J-Smack	Dec 17 2011, 07:10 AM Post #13
Posts: 1,328 Group: Member Member #5,101 Joined: August 5, 2010 Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball	lunar2 Dec 16 2011, 08:50 PM super kaioken is filler. it doesn't exist. That doesn't take away from its epicness, though. XD There might not be a cap on the multiplier, depending on what sort of training the body has gone through. Goku might be able to pull off something crazy like x1000 after he goes through some crazy sort of training. I'd stick with x20, though, since that's the highest we've ever seen it, and it took Goku out of a fight.
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sylentknyte	Dec 17 2011, 02:40 PM Post #14
Posts: 790 Group: Member Member #5,932 Joined: March 30, 2011	I would assume that 50x is the limit, before it really starts to damage your body. Think about it this way: - SSJ Multipier is 50x - If Goku could use a KK to make him stronger than just a SSJ, then he would. Now, realisticly speaking, the fact is that Toriyama didnt think it through at all, and just left it as a thing of the past. But if we over analyze, then the only conclusion is that Kaioken cannot be used past 50x, otherwise Goku would have used it against Cell. My assumption is that anything over 50x would either destroy your body, or zap your energy way too fast, making it completley illogical.



~~Victorious~~	Dec 17 2011, 04:22 PM Post #15
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	I don't see what was wrong with Super Kaioken...being 2x SSJ power or 100x base power. I think Goku just learned it during a brief period when he was reunited with Kaio-sama in his second trip to the after life. Kaio-sama is the master of the Kaioken and he could have showed Goku how to do one that comes out even stronger than his SSJ power. Goku would logically not have used it though in the Buu saga since he has SSJ2 and SSJ3. Edited by Victorious, Dec 17 2011, 04:23 PM.
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