Does Going Giant Make You Stronger?

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Does Going Giant Make You Stronger?
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NavonWise	Dec 16 2011, 06:51 AM Post #1
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	So I was debating with a friend about if Piccolo grew in power when he turned giant on Goku. I disagreed but my friend agreed that Piccolo did get stronger. Now, logically if your that big then hell yeah your going to be stronger and faster, but then we got Roshi stating Piccolo had the same speed, so I guess normal logic didn't apply here anymore lol. So In my opinion, it doesn't make you stronger at all, I mean if it did then why didn't Piccolo do this with Frieza or Cell when he had the chance? Piccolo never does this anymore...
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~~brolyeuphyfusion~~	Dec 16 2011, 04:00 PM Post #2
The Legendary Nightmare Posts: 1,001 Group: Suspended Member #6,990 Joined: November 17, 2011	I think it makes you somewhat stronger, but not faster and giant form wouldn't make a difference against frieza and cell, it's not a big multiplier at all
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Illustrious	Dec 16 2011, 04:05 PM Post #3
Posts: 426 Group: Member Member #5,087 Joined: August 1, 2010	I don't think it changes the users ki at all. If it did, Piccolo would have squashed Goku flat with one stomp.



Kruegs Outlandish	Dec 16 2011, 05:38 PM Post #4
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	given what i believe, i'd say that growing larger doesn't change the users ki output at all; the user would be able to store a lot more ki though. Edited by Kruegs Outlandish, Dec 16 2011, 06:26 PM.



lunar2	Dec 16 2011, 06:20 PM Post #5
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	it doesn't increase ki, and it doesn't change speed (they were expecting him to get slower, not faster). it probably does increase physical strength to support the extra weight, but that's about it.
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Kruegs Outlandish	Dec 16 2011, 06:29 PM Post #6
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	Weskur Dec 16 2011, 06:51 AM So I was debating with a friend about if Piccolo grew in power when he turned giant on Goku. I disagreed but my friend agreed that Piccolo did get stronger. Now, logically if your that big then hell yeah your going to be stronger and faster, but then we got Roshi stating Piccolo had the same speed, so I guess normal logic didn't apply here anymore lol. So In my opinion, it doesn't make you stronger at all, I mean if it did then why didn't Piccolo do this with Frieza or Cell when he had the chance? Piccolo never does this anymore... Yeah. increased strengh able to store more ki (battle) power is the same weighs more; since power is the same, the fighter would get slower able to store more ki Edited by Kruegs Outlandish, Dec 16 2011, 06:30 PM.



lunar2	Dec 16 2011, 08:25 PM Post #7
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	Zanderman.punxx Dec 16 2011, 06:29 PM Weskur Dec 16 2011, 06:51 AM So I was debating with a friend about if Piccolo grew in power when he turned giant on Goku. I disagreed but my friend agreed that Piccolo did get stronger. Now, logically if your that big then hell yeah your going to be stronger and faster, but then we got Roshi stating Piccolo had the same speed, so I guess normal logic didn't apply here anymore lol. So In my opinion, it doesn't make you stronger at all, I mean if it did then why didn't Piccolo do this with Frieza or Cell when he had the chance? Piccolo never does this anymore... Yeah. increased strengh able to store more ki (battle) power is the same weighs more; since power is the same, the fighter would get slower able to store more ki why would increasing your size make you able to store more ki? that was never stated nor implied anywhere in the series. in fact, the only time ki was associated with a size increase (ussj) it was stated that it burned through ki way too fast. size in dragonball simply does not matter, even when it logically should, and certainly not when it shouldn't.
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NavonWise	Dec 16 2011, 08:26 PM Post #8
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I find it illogical for someone that size to go slower. We're talking about a being that can take one step and go to a different city lol. lunar2 Dec 16 2011, 08:25 PM Zanderman.punxx Dec 16 2011, 06:29 PM Weskur Dec 16 2011, 06:51 AM So I was debating with a friend about if Piccolo grew in power when he turned giant on Goku. I disagreed but my friend agreed that Piccolo did get stronger. Now, logically if your that big then hell yeah your going to be stronger and faster, but then we got Roshi stating Piccolo had the same speed, so I guess normal logic didn't apply here anymore lol. So In my opinion, it doesn't make you stronger at all, I mean if it did then why didn't Piccolo do this with Frieza or Cell when he had the chance? Piccolo never does this anymore... Yeah. increased strengh able to store more ki (battle) power is the same weighs more; since power is the same, the fighter would get slower able to store more ki why would increasing your size make you able to store more ki? that was never stated nor implied anywhere in the series. in fact, the only time ki was associated with a size increase (ussj) it was stated that it burned through ki way too fast. size in dragonball simply does not matter, even when it logically should, and certainly not when it shouldn't. Your forgetting Oozaru lol Edited by Kamikaze Pyro, Dec 17 2011, 10:53 AM.
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Kruegs Outlandish	Dec 16 2011, 08:33 PM Post #9
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	I think it does. and i probably think of ki and power differently than you do, lunar2. why bash?



lunar2	Dec 16 2011, 08:39 PM Post #10
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	Weskur Dec 16 2011, 08:26 PM I find it illogical for someone that size to go slower. We're talking about a being that can take one step and go to a different city lol. we're not talking about travelling speed, we're talking about moving speed. bigger objects have more inertia, and therefore require more energy to accelerate to the same speed as smaller objects. bigger objects have larger surface area, and therefore have higher wind resistance. bigger = slower and clumsier, except in dragonball. even ussj wasn't slow because it was big, it was slow because it was bulky. as for oozaru, that increased ki because it was a transformation, not because it was big. if you want to go into transformations, then: final form frieza > 3rd form frieza > 2nd form frieza. perfect cell > semi perfect cell > imperfect cell. kid buu > fat buu. etc.
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~~Victorious~~	Dec 16 2011, 08:40 PM Post #11
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	Cell did do it if I remember correctly. He went buff/giant.
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NavonWise	Dec 16 2011, 08:44 PM Post #12
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	So it's decided then, size in the case of Piccolo does not effect your power...
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~~p123~~	Dec 18 2011, 04:14 AM Post #13
Posts: 2,148 Group: Banned Member #5,120 Joined: August 9, 2010	The anime stated an increase of power...



Illustrious	Dec 18 2011, 09:03 AM Post #14
Posts: 426 Group: Member Member #5,087 Joined: August 1, 2010	p123 Dec 18 2011, 04:14 AM The anime stated an increase of power... But the anime isn't exactly canon.



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